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Where did I say he's amazing? Just pointed out that there are plenty of things to be positive/excited about. And no, of course nothing could make you certain about that - odds are actually even stacked against him I'd say if you look what happened to Ten Hag and plenty of others coming out of the Eredivisie. But "nothing he's done would excite me" was pushing it a bit imo.
It’s not pushing it though it’s just my opinion. It’s just not an exciting hire, it’s a really risky one. And one I’m thankful my club isn’t making. Again, he might end up doing great, but it would massively surprise me, as there’s very little to suggest he can go in and fill the huge void Klopp is going to leave.
 

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Saw this in reddit. From a Feyenoord fan on his style of play. First line reads like he has a similar style to Klopp. I think that is what they are aiming for.
Condition and stamina is key, very high pressure, high backline, he used both normal wingbacks and inverted wingbacks, cdm drops down in possesion, wingers usually lefty on the right and a righty on the left. His biggest ability imo is he can read games like no other. Players always praise him that everything he prepares before a game with what the opposition is going to do comes true. I'll add on to this comment later, need to reevaluate my life without him for a bit.

Edit: the amount of times we turned a game around is mental. Also incredible at keeping the whole squad happy, cant remember ever hearing anyone complain in 3 years. He's amazing with the media never heard him say anything weird or strange. A few weeks ago he was at Rondo a football program in The Netherlands with the likes of Ruud Gullit and Marco van Basten. Slot gave a masterclass about some subjects and they both were looking at Slot like he's their teacher. Man i hope he doesn't go but if it's any other club I would' ve chosen Liverpool its a perfect fit imo.
 

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For the Feyenoord / Dutch guys, how’s his time there viewed in comparison to someone like GvB who also won the league there?
 

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Hopefully he’s as useless as our bald Dutchman
 

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Even if it's the ECC, it's still "only" Feyenoord, and it's something to be excited about for me. The reference was in that ligt, to the post I quoted - not to mean it's some great accomplishment or anything.

Emery isn't a realistic target currently imo, would Villa let him leave, would he even want to switch if he gets them into the CL? And (albeit under different circumstances), Emery has already failed miserably at a big English club as well, would that be something that really, really excites you?

I don't mind a risky hire if it's clear that the potential is there to create a "next big thing", so to speak. And imo the potential is definitely more there with a guy like Slot than some known quantity who has never achieved great things in his career. If Slot doesn't work out, it'll be clear soon enough and that's also not the worst thing in the world.
As much as we rinse Pool on here, you are a much bigger draw than Villa for a manager. I do get he's in the ascendancy at Villa though and it will be hard to follow Klopp. Emery didn't do that badly at Arsenal, they had that period where he went over half the season unbeaten, I think the language barrier which seems to have gone now was the issue and we know it was a bad dressing room given it took Arteta a few years to really purge it.

Will be interesting to see with Slot, maybe it will be a season where there's a lot of leniency and understanding if things don't go amazingly given how long Klopp was there but obviously we hope he's awful.
 

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I wouldn't even say Alonso is a less risky bet and put him as risky as the other names mentioned. Who’s to say this Leverkusen run isn’t just the German equivalent of Leicester 15/16?
Leverkusen are nothing like Leicester 15/16.
They are unbeaten all season and on course to win a treble.
 

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For the Feyenoord / Dutch guys, how’s his time there viewed in comparison to someone like GvB who also won the league there?
He is much better than Van Bronckhorst I think. Before going to Feyenoord he almost won the league with AZ. At Feyenoord he transformed the club and playing style in a very short time.
 

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It’s not pushing it though it’s just my opinion. It’s just not an exciting hire, it’s a really risky one. And one I’m thankful my club isn’t making. Again, he might end up doing great, but it would massively surprise me, as there’s very little to suggest he can go in and fill the huge void Klopp is going to leave.
If you're gonna equal a successful hire with filling the Klopp void then there is no one suited for the job.

The fact that it's a risky hire is exactly what makes it exciting for me. Guess you weren't excited for ETH either back in the days then, going by your comments now.
 

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For the Feyenoord / Dutch guys, how’s his time there viewed in comparison to someone like GvB who also won the league there?
GvB was mostly carried bij Dirk Kuyt's final wish to become champion with Feyenoord. Slot had to rebuild a new team with relatively cheap players and actually make Feyenoord fun to watch but it has to be said many points were taken in ridiculous amounts of extra time so in that way a perfect match with Liverpool.
 

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Leverkusen are nothing like Leicester 15/16.
They are unbeaten all season and on course to win a treble.
Well, yeah. The Leicester story is far more impressive.

Leverkusen have been somewhere between 2nd and 6th in their league for decades with the occasional drop below that. They've played in the CL for years.
Leicester spent most of the decade before their title languishing in the Championship, barely avoided relegation in their first season back and won the title the next.

The point isn't which team had/is having the better season. Just that the sample size to make judgements on Alonso's quality is a bit limited. He's deservedly receiving immense amount of praise right now. But we can hardly extrapolate his achievements so far to other clubs and expect him to perform just as well.
 

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Looking forward to the headlines when he is inevitably fired
"Slot dropped"
 

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If you're gonna equal a successful hire with filling the Klopp void then there is no one suited for the job.

The fact that it's a risky hire is exactly what makes it exciting for me. Guess you weren't excited for ETH either back in the days then, going by your comments now.
The fact I was excited for Ten Hag is also another reason I’d be incredibly weary of being excited for this bloke! The step up is massive, and Ten Hag didn’t have the step up Slot will have because we’ve been shit for a decade.
 

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He deserves a shot at the top level, though who knows how he'll do. I like him far better than Ten Hag personally, because he doesn't have the wooden numpty social skills of Erik (obviously I'm biased).

It sucks the caf will hate him though, because whether he'll do well or not, he will be ridiculed here. My poor bald little Slot :(

Also, please take Zerrouki and Ueda with you Arne. Thanks.
 

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Surely Pool's bar is higher than this though? It was the ECC, the one Mou won with Roma against him.

I think you need to lure Emery away from Villa if possible, otherwise O'Neil from the candidates we've seen linked heavily.
If you see in what state he took over 9 months before that final it would impress you a bit at least. We were in aj absolute shambles.

Winning the ecc with Roma isnt really am achievement. Their striker is worth more than the entire team Slot fielded against him.
 

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Looking forward to him slotting right in to our heavy metal template. Klopp’s been looking a bit old and tired for a while and I can’t wait for a re-run of our wild-eyed PED driven bum-rush days of yore with a younger coach at the helm. Gonna be a fun ride.
 

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Looking forward to him slotting right in to our heavy metal template. Klopp’s been looking a bit old and tired for a while and I can’t wait for a re-run of our wild-eyed PED driven bum-rush days of yore with a younger coach at the helm. Gonna be a fun ride.
Except the PL and his wife have worked out how to counter our high line and wandering FBs. I was looking forward to some Amorim/Arteta 3 at the back solidity.
 

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He also moans at refs during games quite a bit. Though he lacks the teeth to do it as well as Juergen.
 

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He also moans at refs during games quite a bit. Though he lacks the teeth to do it as well as Juergen.
Well if he gets announced as our guy he's going to love the amount of times he's likely to get shafted by officials and VAR!

*grabs coat and leaves
 

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I could see this working. It's a better fit than Ten Hag and United, anyway, which I already pointed out would cause him to fail at United when he signed
 

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Everything I’m hearing about Slot is what we heard about ETH before he came to Utd, modern, attacking and possession based football etc, which doesn’t seem to hard to achieve in the Dutch league.

Hopefully he’s just as successful as ETH has been at Utd :lol:
 

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Except the PL and his wife have worked out how to counter our high line and wandering FBs. I was looking forward to some Amorim/Arteta 3 at the back solidity.
I think Edwards is basically using the numbers to try to fit the coach to the squad as accurately as he can - because they don’t fancy spending another £300m to completely re-fit the squad to play a completely new style.

Slot‘s wagon-wheel is essentially an identikit to what klopp /lijnders were doing a couple of years ago, looking at the diagrams posted by the athletic. Amorim despite the different formation was also similar - as was Alonso’s at sociedad B.

The Portuguese papers are saying Amorim wants full control of transfers which he isn’t getting under Edwards explaining why he’s gone from odd-on to bottom of the list following their meeting (looks like a very similar outcome now happening after his talks with Tim Steidten at West Ham).
 

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Hopefully he gets smashed 7-0 by rivals and gets - goal difference, having a host of embarrassing results and have zero control of any match while spending 100s of millions and in the meantime this being accepted by the media and a large chunk of their fanbase.
 

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Everything I’m hearing about Slot is what we heard about ETH before he came to Utd, modern, attacking and possession based football etc, which doesn’t seem to hard to achieve in the Dutch league.

Hopefully he’s just as successful as ETH has been at Utd :lol:
The difference is that EtH did it with by far the best squad in the country, (at least at the time) best management setup in the country and the biggest financial resources. Slot does it with a much smaller budget, which should be roughly comparable to Liverpool's still limited spending power. Slot joining Liverpool would in the context of the league be like EtH joining City. Not United.
 

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I could see this working. It's a better fit than Ten Hag and United, anyway, which I already pointed out would cause him to fail at United when he signed
Yeah, sadly I think this might be the case. Liverpool to their credit made progress under Brenda post the Hodgson horror show and then followed that up by signing Klopp. While Slot isn't in the same mould as Klopp and has won considerably less, his style is actually suited to how Liverpool already play - unlike Ten Hag's Ajax and United ever were.

Can see him doing very well at Liverpool.

Hopefully he gets smashed 7-0 by rivals and gets - goal difference, having a host of embarrassing results and have zero control of any match while spending 100s of millions and in the meantime this being accepted by the media and a large chunk of their fanbase.
Not sure which media you're speaking about, but Ten Hag has been under the cosh since we won the Carling Cup last year and arguably since we signed Anthony for 80m. No Manchester United manager has or ever will be accepted by the media.
 

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I hope they do get Slot, I just don’t think he’ll do it in the prem. there’s something about Dutch managers. Has there ever been a successful Dutch manager in the prem? I can’t remember one.
 

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I hope they do get Slot, I just don’t think he’ll do it in the prem. there’s something about Dutch managers. Has there ever been a successful Dutch manager in the prem? I can’t remember one.
Hiddink did alright in his various caretaker stints at Chelsea. Martin Jol wasn't too bad at Spurs either.

Otherwise yeah, they've not exactly taken the league by storm.
 

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Hiddink did alright in his various caretaker stints at Chelsea. Martin Jol wasn't too bad at Spurs either.

Otherwise yeah, they've not exactly taken the league by storm.
I think they underestimate the league. It’s nothing like the Dutch league. Which is surprising because the Dutch are known for playing good attacking football, similar to the Germans. They like to press high.
 

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I think they underestimate the league. It’s nothing like the Dutch league. Which is surprising because the Dutch are known for playing good attacking football, similar to the Germans. They like to press high.
I mean our previous Dutch manager didn't exactly set OT alight with displays of thrilling attacking football, and the current one seems to have made our team allergic to creating chances. But yes, I don't think the Eredivisie -> PL transition for these managers has been a particularly successful one.
 

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He also moans at refs during games quite a bit. Though he lacks the teeth to do it as well as Juergen.
Matter of time before we introduce him to the scouse dentists. We have the best in the world - just ask firmino who had to come all the way across the world via europe to finally discover decent dental care.

He’ll have a shiny full set of gnashers in no time. Which he can flash whilst fist-pumping every time we serenade him from the Kop.
 

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This is hilarious, am seeing in real time Scousers who were aghast at his potential appointment initially suddenly becoming experts in Dutch football and how, ackshully, it's a shrewd approach by them - truly great to see, they are fecked imo.