I don't think replacing De Gea should have been a top priority, I also think he has a lot of improvement to do. However, I like him and I hope he does amazing for us.
Onana has not worked out. We need a new keeper.
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Onana is like the blank char you get at the start of a quest rpg that you give attributes to. His footballing stats have been elevated in lieu of his keeping skills.
Someone on here mentioned he never has his feet sorted to make fundamental saving actions. Once you see it, you cannot unsee it.
Someone on here mentioned he never has his feet sorted to make fundamental saving actions. Once you see it, you cannot unsee it.
Just watched Onana interviewed on TV. Poor guy, he really feel shit about his error. But he clearly cares. My heart goes out to him.
I don’t think De Gea really did anything out of the ordinary in terms of shot stopping last season, but I don’t know, I spent 10 years watching De Gea and maybe I was just used to him making saves that other keepers struggle with.
I think it’s more like that we were playing far more conservatively last year and he’s been exposed than De Gea was.
Arsenal won 4-0 tonight with Raya in the Sticks. Clean sheet.
Onana did not keep a clean sheet and even poppadum wrists the first one into the net himself.
he'll be fine. Obviously cost us tonight with his error, but his ball playing ability can and will be an asset.
Said this when we signed him. I didn't think he would do well here and sadly it looks likely that he won't. He does some things other keepers can't do, but does the things that other keepers usually do pretty badly.
Don't think it'll be very unpopular off his body of work here so far.
Hes still got time to turn it around though.
Hes still got time to turn it around though.
Why would I need white text? He was quality for Inter. He's had a very good career. He is quality with the ball at his feet, he is an enormous improvement at dealing with crosses, he is normally an average to good shot stopper. He made a mistake today. Oh well. The club has been in shambles these past few months that it's tough for everyone to stay concentrated and error-free. We'll get through it, and he'll get through it and do better. Onana played well after that mistake, but yes the mistake was a costly one. Unfortunately though, we conceded 4 goals because of horrific team defending in general after we dropped our heads for going behind.
DDG was worse than he has been for about 4 years. And yet people on here still believe that he should have been kept...
So after 5 or 6 games, we'll write Onana off.
Seems fair.
So after 5 or 6 games, we'll write Onana off.
Seems fair.
we always seem to need multiple attempts at getting the right GK, looks like replacing DDG is no exception
I think you'll find that most don't want DDG back, but are skeptical of why we spent so much on a new keeper, especially given that we have conceded far more goals than we did last year at this time.
He’s no different to Allison or Ederson… but at United his strengths are not being utilised and his weaknesses are being exposed. In a way it’s like putting Zidane in the 90s Wimbledon team as cm in a 442.
Bur credit to him for keeping his head after the early mistake and also giving the interview. Right player, currently wrong team. Hopefully once everyone is fit and more likely next summer the signings change that.
Bur credit to him for keeping his head after the early mistake and also giving the interview. Right player, currently wrong team. Hopefully once everyone is fit and more likely next summer the signings change that.
Lies. DDG saves the first two, no problems. He concedes the pen cos he’s shite at them, and the one into the roof of the net by Tel is 50/50 if he reacts in time.
Be careful what you wish for. Altay is an even bigger calamity than Onana but without the ball playing skills. The Fenerbahçe fans couldn't wait to see the back of him after the individual mistakes he did. It was an absurd signing like most of Ten Hag's signings.
So far it looks like we basically wasted 55m and weakened our GK department but Onana still may come good.
First goal was a howler but he did redeem him self afterwards witha couple of good saves., jury is out for me.
Degea was an awesome shot stopper but also made plenty of howlers too.
Degea was an awesome shot stopper but also made plenty of howlers too.
So then why the feck did we spend £50m on him? And why did he agree to join?!
We've gone too far down the keeper being 'good with his feet' route before we have an outfield team that is ready for it.
We can't play a high line because we don't have appropriate CBs
The midfield can't keep the ball. At all.
The forwards can't hold up the ball. At all.
We can't play a high line because we don't have appropriate CBs
The midfield can't keep the ball. At all.
The forwards can't hold up the ball. At all.
sad but trueWasnt it 100m? Oh no it wasnt 70 either..
Two things can be true at once.
1. We needed to spend that money on a new keeper.
2. We should have signed a different keeper.
1. Was 100% obviously true by the end of last season (actually long before then).
It’s still too early to be sure that 2. is true.
An unpopular opinion would be that he’s good.
Or his agency
My guess is Onana will still come good. Some players start very well at a new club, others need time.
The shot stopping was always a worry, but his starting position has become so deep ever since that Madrid game
Same thing that other good players did, he put a United shirt on
We can’t judge him yet FFS, DDG had some right pelters in this forum, and now I’m reading “DDG saves this…..saves that”, yes he made a mistake but look at the state of the club right now and the pressure. He’s just come out which would have been hard and took ownership of that mistake and saying it cost us. Personally I rated DDG and thought we were good for another 2 seasons and we could concentrate elsewhere, but we can see where ETH is wanting to take us with a style of play, hard to do when you aren't getting your first choice player in ANY department and instead getting 3rd or 4th and free transfers.
Agree. Mount shouldn't be a priority too imo but the manager wanted him badly. I like Onana and fingers crossed he'll do it here. Loved DDG but was furious when keeping the line and his ability to manage crosses + wages.
You think he'd have saved the second? No chance.
Many wanted him kept, not brought back. He threw in worse goals than that in bigger games over a number of years, yet people still wanted him kept. But those same people have forgotten about all those and are willing to write his replacement off after a handful of games.
He'll be fine.
Jesus what a car crash of a thread. To perform to an elite level in goal, like Onana did last year for Inter may i add (specifically in the champions league run to the final), feeling settled in the team and comfortable in your surroundings, and confident etc makes a huge difference to performance levels. I remember when Allison joined Liverpool he was making mistakes and Klopp called him out on it. Onana is taking time to settle, plus we are fecking shite right now!
I have faith in him personally.
I have faith in him personally.
Kim min-Jae was our first priority and the plan to bring in a “ball playing keeper” was for next summer. Matt Hargreaves fecked up the Kim Min-Jae signing so ETH likely decided to bring that signing forward.So then why the feck did we spend £50m on him? And why did he agree to join?!
As for Onana, that like saying why do manager’s join United when they know the club is run by clowns.
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6 competitive games and he's being written off? Good grief. Constantly changing defence in front, midfield with more holes than a golf course. I seem to remember Vidic and Evra having less than stellar starts too, good job we didn't bin them off. Give him time with a settled defence, balanced midfield and more confidence around him and then judge.
The comparison was so embarrassing I typed a reply and then in a moment of clarity thought its not even worth it.
I swear he played that pass infield without looking
looks like think he's overthinking on how to save that Sane goal
for now, I'm still backing him
for now, I'm still backing him
fecks sakes harry. Blackface too now? No wonder he was dropped.