Marcus Rashford (Out) | Ornstein: United want to keep, will only consider substantial bids

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

The assumption PSG cannot afford to scout him or a television subscription so they have been completely unaware of how awful he is, really needs to stop. PSG are a top side, pushing for honours in the latter stages of the elite European competition. They're not some gullable old bird who we can try and flog the old banger in the forecourt to, hoping she doesn't notice the arse has fallen off, the steering wheel is cellotaped on and overlook the fact we've stuck a post-it note with 'Zero miles' and a smiley face over the dashboard.

It's laughable to be honest. He isn't in their league. They'd think twice about hiring him to work in the canteen.Yet every time he has a stinker - which is every single week, it's "Come on PSG, take him off our hands". People clearly don't think very much of PSG.

Top clubs do sometimes sign players off the back of a poor season. Havertz going to Arsenal springs to mind. And we've seen PSG splurge money on silly transfers before.

Also, had the red card vs Barca not turned the game on it's head then we wouldn't be speaking about them in such glowing terms. They play in a weak league and they aren't even the best PSG side we've seen over the last 5 years.

 

[Von Mistelroum]

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50m and he's all yours Paris.

He's really bad, like so bad that nobody will be paying more than £30m as a "maybe he'll come good" punt. Even then I dunno who would want him on his ridiculous wages. I think we will hold out for a decent sum, and I can't think of a club mental enough to buy a washed up, lazy, entitled player for a reasonable amount. So we're stuck with him.

Surely we can get him doing some jobs around the club to get something for our money though? Our marketing department looks to need a bit of help for example.

 

[Piskin]

His attitude and laziness is duly noted by other clubs, who would pay big money & wages to have this waster at their club?

 

[Pronewbie]

Wait a min. PSG's solution to replace Mbappe who had 26 league goal in 27 games so far, is to go for a player who scored 7 league goals in 31 matches and may not even selected for the national team this summer?

All parties to win? Really?

PSG replaced Messi with Dembele and Lee Kang In and are doing better this season. Obviously Mbappe is at his peak but with the money freed up they could follow the same playbook and get Rashford to compete with a youngster (Barcola or someone new).

 

[Red in STL]

Wasn't he into the last 12 months of his contract when he signed a new one? So being realistic we were never getting 150 or thereabouts, no clubs paying that for someone they can get for free if they just wait a year, and once the contract was signed then no one was going to bid as clear he was staying.

Well we spent a fair bit on Mount in the same situation so you never know, but 150 was pie in the sky but 100 might have been doable, Kane went for that kind of money

 

[RedTiger]

Is this the first time he's talked about this?

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[Sky1981]

There will be dressroom leaks incoming

 

[bosnian_red]

I've always liked him but the guy has to leave for his own good if he wants to get his shit together, feel less pressured and find form again

 

[van Nistelrooy]

Is this the first time he's talked about this?

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Here we go again. What's he even doing up on social media past midnight? He'll have training in the morning.

The truth hurts. Get found out and criticised repeatedly due to dire performances and he jumps on the abuse bandwagon. Of course Rashford has nothing to answer for.

Please get this guy out of the club. A loan move is the obvious answer for now. Remove the toxicity ahead of the new season!

 

[didz]

Is this the first time he's talked about this?

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Should probably mention that this is specifically directed at that Goldbridge idiot.

 

[AshRK]

The way Goldbridge and his channel has been after him has been a disgrace. You could feel he is mentally not focused. He has been treated like shit by certian big football channels and twitter handles.

All the nonsense about how he intentionally wants eth gone to how he is intentionally sabotaging the side to having a secret meeting with southgate so that he can replace eth. This is not constructive criticism but pure hate.

 

[Valar Morghulis]

The sooner the better he is gone. Not only have his performances not been up to par this season but his whole mindset is totally wrong. It's not abuse to point this out. If the club is ever going to reach the heights it should, this kind of bullshit carry on needs to be totally eradicated.

 

[E-mal]

It is ok to say you want a Rashford gone because he is not good enough or not committed to the team, but to result in falsehood, inuendos and slander is taking the piss. United stand and its likes just peddle falsehood because it sells. They should be embarrassed

The way Goldbridge and his channel has been after him has been a disgrace. You could feel he is mentally not focused. He has been treated like shit by certian big football channels and twitter handles.

All the nonsense about how he intentionally wants eth gone to how he is intentionally sabotaging the side to having a secret meeting with southgate so that he can replace eth. This is not constructive criticism but pure hate.

 

[TMDaines]

The sooner the better he is gone. Not only have his performances not been up to par this season but his whole mindset is totally wrong. It's not abuse to point this out. If the club is ever going to reach the heights it should, this kind of bullshit carry on needs to be totally eradicated.

I sat five seats down from someone at Wembley who abused him incessantly from the first whistle until he was subbed off. He literally had no other interest in the game, than to swear at him and berate him. It was genuinely a little bit scary to see a grown adult just spew venom at a player for his own team in front of kids the way he did.

 

[tenpoless]

He will shine in farmers market... PSG you know you want him.

 

[AshRK]

I sat five seats down from someone at Wembley who abused him incessantly from the first whistle until he was subbed off. He literally had no other interest in the game, than to swear at him and berate him. It was genuinely a little bit scary to see a grown adult just spew venom at a player for his own team in front of kids the way he did.

There is this weird hatred for him. Nothing constructive about that.

 

[Valar Morghulis]

I sat five seats down from someone at Wembley who abused him incessantly from the first whistle until he was subbed off. He literally had no other interest in the game, than to swear at him and berate him. It was genuinely a little bit scary to see a grown adult just spew venom at a player for his own team in front of kids the way he did.

Well that's insane, and totally unjustifiable. I want him to leave. I genuinely think it would be best for both him and the club. But I certainly don't think any sane person could defend this kind of conduct, nothing football related is ever serious enough to warrant this kind of ridiculousness.

 

[ThierryHenry14]

PSG replaced Messi with Dembele and Lee Kang In and are doing better this season. Obviously Mbappe is at his peak but with the money freed up they could follow the same playbook and get Rashford to compete with a youngster (Barcola or someone new).

Sure, but why it is always PSG,

Not Bayern(Muller replacement)
Not Liverpool(Salah replacement)
Not Chelsea(Hazard replacement)
Not Arsenal(Jesus replacement)
Not Real Madrid(Ronaldo/Bale replacement)
And not Inter or Juventus either

Why always PSG? There is absolutely nothing from PSG that they are interested in Rashford anymore this season. Is it because people think PSG sport director or Enrique is stupid?

 

[DWelbz19]

Sure, but why it is always PSG,

Not Bayern(Muller replacement)
Not Liverpool(Salah replacement)
Not Chelsea(Hazard replacement)
Not Arsenal(Jesus replacement)
Not Real Madrid(Ronaldo/Bale replacement)
And not Inter or Juventus either

Why always PSG? There is absolutely nothing from PSG that they are interested in Rashford anymore this season. Is it because people think PSG sport director or Enrique is stupid?

We’re obviously not going to be selling to a domestic rival. Real Madrid have a surplus of left forwards who are better and younger - one of whom is going to be the player he could potentially replace at PSG. The Italian teams are unlikely to cough up the money needed for a permanent transfer, and pay his salary.

PSG have been heavily linked in the past and it’s been confirmed that his brother/agent was in strong talks with then last season. People are just making assumptions here, nobody is claiming to be a financial director who is privy to who will be interested in Rashford.

 

[gajender]

We’re obviously not going to be selling to a domestic rival[/B]. Real Madrid have a surplus of left forwards who are better and younger - one of whom is going to be the player he could potentially replace at PSG. The Italian teams are unlikely to cough up the money needed for a permanent transfer, and pay his salary.

PSG have been heavily linked in the past and it’s been confirmed that his brother/agent was in strong talks with then last season. People are just making assumptions here, nobody is claiming to be a financial director who is privy to who will be interested in Rashford.

I believe this stance needs bit of a changing to be honest especially when we are actually willing sellers , primary objective should be to get the best fees for United .

 

[In Rainbows]

We’re obviously not going to be selling to a domestic rival.

Why not? Chelsea just did it. City have done it. If we truly believe he's not good, just let him be another team's problem.

 

[Samid]

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[Sky1981]

I'd love it if we're selling Rashford to domestic rivals, hell I'd deliver him and paid Mars bars.

That's like the 2024 version of Trojan Horse

 

[ForeverRed1]

Is this the first time he's talked about this?

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Play your fecking heart out and people will shut up. Guarantee it.

 

[red_de_pologne]

“If you criticize me even better” .. guys a big baby spending too much time on twitter

 

[Malons]

The unjust horror of fans telling a footballer who saunters around the pitch on £350k a week that their workrate isn't that great. Awful stuff. Someone's surely going to write a song to draw attention to this. Has anyone let Geldof know yet?


It's not his fault for playing dreadfully and phoning in performances - it's your fault for noticing. Woe is him. He needs to take accountabiltiy, work harder, stop being so thin-skinned that his mental health is derailed by @WeetabixPerv44 calling him crap at 2am on Twitter, or sod off.

 

[El Jefe]

Example 1578 of Rashford showing he doesn’t have the mentality to be the top man at the club.

There was a period fans were done with Giggs, the whole country hated Ronaldo and fans hated Rooney after the transfer request. None of these guys bitched about being victims, they just got on with their jobs and proved how good they could be.

From the very start I said we’ve given too much too this guy for way too little. He’s entitled and doesn’t understand the demands of being a top player at this club.

 

[afatzp]

Rashford has to understand as a celebrity the abuse is inevitable. You could say 200K of your 350K weekly paycheck is for this . You have been compensated for it and just need to shut up and learn to deal with it.

Now he would need to improve his performance and attitude so he worth the other 150K of his paycheck . Right now he plays worse than most wingers in the championship teams , set aside those playing in EPL .

 

[Slevs]

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50m and he's all yours Paris.

Finally

 

[CloneMC16]

Example 1578 of Rashford showing he doesn’t have the mentality to be the top man at the club.

There was a period fans were done with Giggs, the whole country hated Ronaldo and fans hated Rooney after the transfer request. None of these guys bitched about being victims, they just got on with their jobs and proved how good they could be.

From the very start I said we’ve given too much too this guy for way too little. He’s entitled and doesn’t understand the demands of being a top player at this club.

I don't think it's fair to compare modern day players to players that played before the social media era. They would get abused at games. Once they went home, it stopped. That isn't the case for players any more.

I do agree that he likely doesn't have the mentality to be our top man. If you're playing badly, you have to accept that you will be criticised. There are many people that take it too far, but that's life.

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

I don't think it's fair to compare modern day players to players that played before the social media era. They would get abused at games. Once they went home, it stopped. That isn't the case for players any more.

I do agree that he likely doesn't have the mentality to be our top man. If you're playing badly, you have to accept that you will be criticised. There are many people that take it too far, but that's life.

I would take being abused on SNS over dozens of pissed off blokes showing up in front of my door every day of the week.

 

[Raw]

Blacked out his profile picture and all, feck off man

 

[Chairman Steve]

Ugh the PR spin around him makes the PR spin around high profile politicians look subtle.

 

[Berbaclass]

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[SuperiorXI]

I don't think it's fair to compare modern day players to players that played before the social media era. They would get abused at games. Once they went home, it stopped. That isn't the case for players any more.

I do agree that he likely doesn't have the mentality to be our top man. If you're playing badly, you have to accept that you will be criticised. There are many people that take it too far, but that's life.

You're wrong. Look into the abuse Beckham got and you'll see that.

The reality is that if you're going to be a star at Manchester United you'll be exposed to all manner of criticism, a lot of it unfair criticism but it's part in parcel of being a player for one of the great clubs. United will always generate clicks and sell papers.

I wish the best for Rashford, he comes from the same town I grew up in, but I don't think this club is for him and I think it is best for all parties if he moves on.

 

[Woodzy]

If you don’t play well enough you will get criticised. It’s not abuse, it’s being called out for not doing a job properly.

If he wants an easier ride then go play in the MLS.

 

[Adisa]

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Abuse is unjustified. Wonder how jobless and sad your life is that you would go on twitter and start tagging people with abuse.
However, this "woe is me" mentality is why he is where he is. He doesn't do the barest minimum. Part of me even feels he takes all criticism as abuse. Just feck him off please.

 

[sepulturite]

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Already posted a few posts above

 

[sepulturite]

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Already posted a few posts above.

 

[Mike Smalling]

Only explanation that would give me sympathy would be if he has been forced to play with injuries throughout the season, because we are so threadbare in attack.

Obviously abuse is never ok, but as depressing as that sounds, it is just a fact of social media these days. So if Rashford is truly bothered by it, he should simply get off those platforms, because he cannot change it. It's probably something many people would benefit from, also beyond professional sports.