Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2020/21 Discussion

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City have the best squad, the best manager and the biggest budget

It'd pretty harsh to make the title the expectation

We expect to improve, and we expect to challenge

If next season we improve again and challenge (but not win), we'd be mad to let him go
 

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You think fighting for the the league after being manager for 3 years or reaching the CL final with the second highest spending club in the world is funny? OK
Enlighten me the King...how did Ole spend the 2nd highest transfer fee in the World? Are you including the previous 1billion failed transfer on his head...
 

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Zero importance after 3 years as a manager. The only thing he should be judge with is him winning the PL or CL. At the end of his contract if he is not winning the big trophies, then the club should let him go back to Norway.

Correction. Two full seasons after he was "officially" hired.

In this two years, he has to clear up the mess that the last 3 managers have left behind, moving half of the squad out and trying to integrate 3-5 first team players... He didn't start from Top 4.. but position 6.

This club doesn't have a structure like Bayern , Dortmund, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Barcelona, Real Madrid and PSG where the manager is simply a head coach and plug-n-play solution. The manager has to take care of everything which Ole is trying to delegate. That's why the board prefers to hire a long term manager to lead the club unlike other club. Any long term fan would know it well.

Two full seasons now and we still do not have a proper first team, not to mention a proper squad for rotation to challenge Chelsea and Man City for multiple trophies. Go and look at their first team and squad players closely. There is progression, business sense and ambition lead by a hungry owner.

At this point of time, we know that the board will only spend the appropriate amount for Top 4 for commercial purposes. Yes the board has spent over 1 billion dollars but that was a frantic attempt trying to get back into Top 4 and trying to be a Disneyland of Football club.

The manager is a lone ranger now and needs the full-support of the board to fulfil his vision of being a champion again. Putting all the responsibility on the manager is simply unfair with our club structure and objectives. Achieving extraordinary results for the team could backfire instead as the board thinks that the current squad is good enough.

You can upgrade the "steering wheel" if everything else in the car is running and optimized. Ole has the balance of EQ and IQ to steer this club out of the constant problem bombarding this club 365. High IQ coaches like Klopp, Pep, Nagel would find it hard to focus on their squads having to answer for everything.

Klopp was backed properly by the board and he rinsed over 35 players to find his first team. If a good coach is the key to a player's performance, why does Klopp has to rinse over so many players? Why can't Pep and Klopp buy a 1 million player from the Championship side and groom them to become a 50 million dollar player? Why is Liverpool struggling when only 1 defender is out if coaching was the issue? Why does Man City always struggle without Kevin de Druyne before Gundogan emerge?

I like your standards but they have to be based on "reality". Slow progress is not a bad thing if it is based on longevity and continual upgrades on the squad.
 
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City have the best squad, the best manager and the biggest budget

It'd pretty harsh to make the title the expectation

We expect to improve, and we expect to challenge

If next season we improve again and challenge (but not win), we'd be mad to let him go
This is how I feel.

As long as he can continue to improve the squad with players and give it his best shot to compete for the title - maybe having a less point deficit vs the title winners; then I will be okay with it.

I love what he is doing with the squad and want to see that continue.

A new manager wont just come in an win a title in his first year and will need to reshape the first team to his tactics; so it's a waste of time.

When I watch Pep taking 5-6 years to get to a CL final with all the money and the players in the world (arguably only in a year when clubs are down on the virus) - I feel like I can be patient with Ole arguably trying to improve a team that has been down a whole decade.
 

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Another one of these posters who has no understanding of years. Sigh.

Ole has not been at the club for 3 years. Just like Tuchel has not been managing Chelsea for a year.
 

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Tuchel may win the CL still. Ole has to be careful with the rest of the matches or else we may lose our 2nd spot to Chelsea.
 

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Looking back at the 2016/17 Europa League KO stages:

11 goals scored, 4 conceded against Saint Etienne, Rostov, Anderlecht, Celta Vigo.
3 of the 4 ties decided by a single goal.

This time:
17-5 against Sociedad, Milan, Granada, Roma.
1 tie decided by a single goal, the others all had 4-goal margins :eek:

Much, much more impressive, much better results, against much better opposition. The weakest team this time (Granada) is comparable to the strongest from last time (Celta), all 4 are in the big leagues, and 3 of the 4 are in/around the CL spots of their respective leagues.
Really would deserve to win the trophy.
 
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Looking back at the 2016/17 Europa League KO stages:

12 goals scored, 4 conceded against Saint Etienne, Rostov, Anderlecht, Celta Vigo.
3 of the 4 ties decided by a single goal.

This time:
17-5 against Sociedad, Milan, Granada, Roma.
1 tie decided by a single goal, the others all had 4-goal margins :eek:

Much, much more impressive, much better results, against much better opposition. The weakest team this time (Granada) is comparable to the strongest from last time (Celta), all 4 are in the big leagues, and 3 of the 4 are in/around the CL spots of their respective leagues.
Really would deserve to win the trophy.
It was such a limp campaign from us that season. We beat Rostov 2-1 over 2 legs; Anderlecht took us to extra time; and we were a John Guidetti miss away from bottling the semi’s vs Celta Vigo. :lol: The only tie that was genuinely comfortable for us was the final.

Terrorism football from that dinosaur who had us 6th in the league with fewer goals than Bournemouth FC