He's been out for nearly 2 years with what sounds like a serious knee injury, but that was never the real problem with him. If/when he returns to the first team we'll be back to the recurring knocks and niggles he picks up that will take him out for weeks/months at a time. You just could never rely on him. But it doesn't really matter now anyway, the team has long moved on and there's no way he could ever displace Varane or Maguire even if he could stay fit.
Phil Jones | released summer 2023
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They only drink flat Pepsi, they can't afford the fizzy stuff.
Hoping someone gets injured and loses their job in the Phil Jones thread classy, getting very nasty in here.
This thread has a clusterfeck the last few pages.
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This is how the article starts off -
Alaria is a clever girl and old enough to understand, Phil Jones says, and he gets a sick feeling just thinking about that day in Hale. He was strolling with his three-year-old daughter, pushing her little sister, Rayah, in the pram. A workman walked past. And the guy suddenly just unloaded. “Hey, Phil . . . You’re shit. You’re shit!”
Alaria turned to look at him. “You know when a little kid will ask you 20 times before you give them the answer?” Jones says. “It was one of them. ‘What is that? Daddy, Daddy, what is that?’
“I got so many emotions: rage, calm down, do I confront him, what do I say to my wife? I froze. In the end another guy walking past said, ‘Phil, leave it. Hey, you’re better than that.’ ”
Puts pot noodle into perspective.
Alaria is a clever girl and old enough to understand, Phil Jones says, and he gets a sick feeling just thinking about that day in Hale. He was strolling with his three-year-old daughter, pushing her little sister, Rayah, in the pram. A workman walked past. And the guy suddenly just unloaded. “Hey, Phil . . . You’re shit. You’re shit!”
Alaria turned to look at him. “You know when a little kid will ask you 20 times before you give them the answer?” Jones says. “It was one of them. ‘What is that? Daddy, Daddy, what is that?’
“I got so many emotions: rage, calm down, do I confront him, what do I say to my wife? I froze. In the end another guy walking past said, ‘Phil, leave it. Hey, you’re better than that.’ ”
Puts pot noodle into perspective.
Heartbreaking. The human race is full of scum.
This is a video explaining his injuries.
Some people are, in bad faith, purposely hiding their ability to understand context, so that they can keep on hammering the guy - this time, for "attacking poor people". It's just easier to double down on Phil Jones being a terrible person who deserves everything he gets, rather than to admit to being one of these absolute losers he's talking about.
Also, equalling "trolling online, drinking flat pepsi, living in your mother's basement" with poor people, does nothing but to expose a really messed up view on poor people - exactly what the very same people are accusing Phil Jones of.
Also, equalling "trolling online, drinking flat pepsi, living in your mother's basement" with poor people, does nothing but to expose a really messed up view on poor people - exactly what the very same people are accusing Phil Jones of.
Poor guy, must be a terrible feeling.
“Hey, Phil . . . You’re shit. You’re shit!”
Horrible thing to say to anyone let alone someone with their children. Makes him seem a bit thin skinned if that filled him with rage and made him consider leaving his kids to confront someone. But who knows what else he was dealing with that day it must be horrible being famous sometimes. I expect most footballers get abuse in public, it's not right but sadly it's part and parcel for most people in the public eye I'd imagine. I witnessed Fellaini getting much worse than that in person and I felt horrible for the guy but he just laughed it off.
Horrible thing to say to anyone let alone someone with their children. Makes him seem a bit thin skinned if that filled him with rage and made him consider leaving his kids to confront someone. But who knows what else he was dealing with that day it must be horrible being famous sometimes. I expect most footballers get abuse in public, it's not right but sadly it's part and parcel for most people in the public eye I'd imagine. I witnessed Fellaini getting much worse than that in person and I felt horrible for the guy but he just laughed it off.
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Who the feck wrote that shit?
Thin skinned? Of course it filled him with rage. He was with his daughter who is now asking him twenty times what just happened and likely what the words you're shit mean and why he's having them shouted at him by strange men in public. He's angry because it affects his child and the piece of scum doesn't have the decency not to verbally abuse him in front of his 3 year old daughter and baby.
Sorry did my post make you think I wasn't sympathetic towards Phil in this situation or that I think it's ok to abuse people in public in front of their children?
It's a quote from Jones Interview.
I was assuming that you were quoting someone.
Edit: just saw your reply. That's messed up. That's not the journalist's own words, right? He's got to be quoting someone else? I haven't read it yet.
You forgot to turn off the italics after the quote had ended.
Who's opinion is the bolded mate?
The first part is the quote I forgot to turn the Italics off.
I don't get it really? The guy is nothing more than a common workman, nothing special. However, it takes a lot of talent and sacrifices to get where he did. Yes he may not be up to the standard and made a lot of mistakes, but he has more talent on one toe than that workman. I would have laughed at the fellow's face, that would have really wound him up instead.
One of the hardest things about being a parent, at least for me, is to try and 1, make sure i'm acting in the right way for my daughters , not me, and 2, keep them in the illusion that the world is a lot nicer, that I'm a lot nicer than the truth.
I have kids myself mate and I'd agree.
That's why I don't understand the thin skinned bit, or the expectation that because you're famous you should expect abuse. We've had celebrities since we had communities. Why is it only now that they're subject to this constant vitriol?
I eat pot noodles. Why not. Have you ever seen Kitchen Nightmares? restaurants charging loads of money for shit quality foods. Expensive doesnt necessarily mean better especially with pesticides around.
Sorry you seem to be taking parts of my post out of context here? Where did I say I think famous people should expect abuse?
Thanks for posting, this video should get posted every few pages... He's been playing through injury/pain since 2012, with the knee getting worse and worse...
I do wonder why United seemed to be so quiet about the surgery though? I don't think we heard anything about it until this interview, with Ole been asked about it several times over the last two years? Do you think they were trying to protect him knowing he might never make it back as a player?
Jesus, I'm not for abusing players, but some posters are going over the top for defending Jones. Haven't seen the same for other players that have been abused in the last 7-8 years.
Why was Rooney not defended when our own fans were giving him dog abuse for every small little thing?
Why was Rooney not defended when our own fans were giving him dog abuse for every small little thing?
Can't speak for the original poster, but I was a bit taken aback by how you seemed to have critisized Phil Jones in this instance, that's all...
Seemed really needless/pointless to call him thin skinned, when imo it's a really natural reaction. Almost as if you felt the urge either to critisize him for no reason or were looking for a reaction on here?
Guys im so glad i'm not the only one who does that. I want them to find out the shittyness of the world for themselves, not for me to ruin it for them.
My friend (who is Pakistani) has a black Sudanese sister in law. His nephews and nieces are mixed race, but have African features such as the hair and darker skin tone. His other brother is married to a Polish woman and he's got "white looking" nephews and nieces too. He remarked how when the kids are playing together they don't see the colour, they don't see the difference. He was reading a book about racism and his son asked him what it was about. He said he told him the experiences of black people in America. His son asked him who black people were. He decided to change the topic because for now he didn't want his kids to see the racial differences, when they don't currently.
It's so important we help our kids enjoy the world for as long as they can.
Over the top for defending a guy being abused in the street in front of his kids?
I think you should read your own post once again.
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Famous people get more stick. It’s usually not right, but given how that’s how it’s always been it is expected.
Telling him he’s shit in front of his kids isn’t nice or justified. All the Pearl clutching over it is a bit much though.
It’s not only now. You just seem to only be aware of it now.
Famous people get more stick. It’s usually not right, but given how that’s how it’s always been it is expected.
Telling him he’s shit in front of his kids isn’t nice or justified. All the Pearl clutching over it is a bit much though.
You should probably ruin it for them a bit IMO.
Criticizing Phil Jones?
Yeah ok mate, ignore the rest of my post and focus on two words.
Jesus Christ you make a sympathetic post in support of Phil Jones and your post get's pulled apart and taken out of context and you get accused of criticizing him amongst other things.
Yeah some maybe need to take a step back from this thread for a while and not jump on people for any perceived slight on Phil Jones. Real or imagined.
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I wonder if others would have just retired from football.
Even if he makes it back to full fitness will he even able to get back to the level he was at? There were question marks over whether he was good enough for United when he was at full fitness, how likely is it now?
Even if he makes it back to full fitness will he even able to get back to the level he was at? There were question marks over whether he was good enough for United when he was at full fitness, how likely is it now?
That's just absolutely not true in any way at all is it?
Fred gets criticized, people stick up for him.
McTominay gets criticized, people stick up for him.
Rooney, Berbatov, Lindelof, Wan Bissaka, Maguire, Pre last season Shaw, De Gea, all the same.
Some love to moan, some love to moan at the moaners. This is how the forum works...
With Phil Jones, a narrative has grown out of al proportion that he's a leech and 'stealing a living' is one of my favourites...
Here's what we know;
He's a talented footballer.
He's been plagued by injuries.
His form has flucuated over the years.
His contract was renewed.
He's now back in training after having knee surgery.
My take from this is, he's a talented player who's form has flucuated because he's been playing through pain and his knees had given up on him. When offering him a new contract the club who aren't a charity, offered him a lucrative contract because they thought he justified it (by whatever metrics they used). He's now getting back to fitness.
And here's the crux for me, I wish him the best for us and don't wish to deride his past performances.
Apparently for some, seemingly like yourself, that seems unreasonable...
Yeah I've said a few times that I wish we could see some of the same defending of other players and the manager, would make the caf a much better place if this support was sprinkled around the other threads.
Fair enough, I'm old enough to know that you can't always take written word on face value as you miss most of the meaning etc... I assumed 'thin skinned' was digging into him, if not, apologiesYou didn't and I didn't mean it to come across as a personal insult, I just think it's become normalised modern celebs are just expect to be abused, and your comment, while not saying that, did infer it. Jimmy Greaves died yesterday, I'm sure there are stories of him going to the pub with the fans, I know did. I can't imagine Clark Gable or Charlie Chaplin getting abused like that in the street.
No worries mate. My post was maybe poorly worded all I was trying to say was that sadly yes Celebrities do get abused in public and that I think it's not right.
No worries mate, judging from the reaction obviously my post must have been poorly worded.
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Bit of a mare with that post! Quoted wrong, poorly worded...
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