Rivals Draft R1 - Zlatan vs Michaelf

Who will win the match?


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TEAM ZLATAN

I struggled with this draft, amazed I even managed to put some kind of team together.

mcoist was a quality striker though so think he’d be able to score a few goals, especially with Socrates behind him, also di Maria and queresma no slouches when it comes to creativity whether scoring goals or creating beautiful asssits. Deschamps and a young kovacic providing a sturdy base.

attacking full backs either side of two sturdy centre backs and Tarzan in goals

TEAM MICHAELF

My team will play a 4-3-3 formation with Deco playing as a midfield playmaker and Moreno as an attacking box to box midfielder. I will now provide information about my players.

Toni Schumacher (Fenerbache): Spent 3 seasons at Fenerbache (88/89-90/91) when aged 34-37. In 1988 and 1989 he shared the Footballer of the Year Award in Turkey as well as winning the Most Successful Foreign Athlete of the Year in Turkey award. After originally retiring aftwe leaving Fenerbache, he was signed by Bayern Munich in October 1991 to play in goal when their top 2 goalkeepers were both injured.

Francisco Arce (Palmeiras): Arce was at Palmeiras for 5 seasons between 1998 and 2002. During those 5 seasons Arce was always included in the ideal team of the America's (finishing joint 2nd in the South American Footballer of the Year in 1999) and won the Bola de Prata as the best RB in the Brazilian top flight in 1998, 2000 and 2001. Arce's strengths were his crossing and free kicks.

Sol Campbell (Tottenham Hotspur): Campbell was at Tottenham between 1992 and 2001 being included in the PFA Team of the Year for 1998/99 and winning 40 England caps between 1996 and 2001 while at Spurs. When he left Tottenham, both Barcelona and AC Milan were interested in him before he signed for Arsenal. Campbell's strengths included pace, strength and aerial ability.

Anatoli Bashashkin (CSKA Moscow): Bashashkin spent two spells at CSKA Moscow from 1947-1952 and from 1954-1958. He played for Spartak Moscow after CSKA Moscow was dissolved by Stalin and Beria following the USSR's defeat to Yugoslavia at the 1952 Olympics with Bashashkin also losing the National Team Captaincy. While at CSKA Moscow, he was chosen by the National Coaches Council as the best player in his position 4 times (1950, 1951, 1955 and 1956) with Bashashkin also finishing 1st in 1953 while at Spartak Moscow and the list not being chosen in 1954. In 1952 no CSKA players were chosen as the best 3 in their position, despite 5 players being in the Olympics squad (including 4 who played in a majority of the USSR's matches) and having 8 1st's, 1 2nd and 1 3rd in the previous years award which suggests that the National Coaches Council were not willing to risk Stalin's anger given his reaction to the Olympics defeat mentioned earlier. In 2003, Valentin Babukin who played for the USSR national team and played at club level for Lokomotiv Moscow during Bashashkin's era, opined that he thought that Bashashkin would still be one of the best CB's in European Football today (in 2003) (Source). Former club and national teammate (as well as future CSKA and USSR National Team Manager) Valentin Nikolayev said that Beckenbauer reminded him of Bashashkin in the following way:

In terms of physique, style of play and behavior on the field, reliability and technique of playing on defense, speed, game thinking, if they were put side by side, it would be indistinguishable from each other. Of course, this only applied to defensive actions, attacking raids with the completion of attacks, which Beckenbauer brilliantly practiced, were not encouraged in our times.
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Babukin also described Bashashkin's on ball abilities as follows:

Bashashkin began to organize the attack of his team. Instantly assessing the situation on the field, he gave an accurate pass to a partner in a better position
(Source)

Tommy Gemmell (Celtic): In my opinion the greatest ever Scottish LB (with only Andy Robertson as a rival), Tommy Gemmell made 247 league appearances for Celtic in 10 years from 1961 to 1971 winning league titles in his last 6 seasons at the club in addition to 18 caps for Scotland and winning the 1967 European Cup (scoring in both that final and defeat in the 1970 final). Gemmell was 2 footed and capable of playing on either side was a good tackler and had a powerful shot. Gemmell finished 6th in the 1967 Ballon d'Or.

Zlatko Čajkovski (Partizan Belgrade): Cajkovski spent 10 years at Partizan between 1945 and 1955 during which time he won 2 league titles (never finishing lower than 6th) and 3 cup titles while winning 55 Yugoslavia caps. Cajkovski had high levels of stamina and tenacity as well as great marking skills and metronomic passing. His zigzag dribbling style also made him difficult to predict when he chose to run with the ball. Here are some quotes from this @Enigma_87 post with more details on Cajkovski:

His jump and header was something special. He never marked opposition's attacker so closely, when the ball was in the air and going toward them. First, he always knew where the ball is going to fall, and then when he realized where the ball is going, he would start to run and then jumped (that gave him advantage in the air, because everybody else waited for the ball, and then jumped from the place they were standing all that time). Using all of these things (his jump, reading of the game, positioning), he was often superior in the air, even when he guarded much higher players.
Hungarian national team coach from '50s, Gusztáv Sebes, gave a statement, after seeing friendly game between Partizan and Honved, that before the game he couldn't decide who is better half player in Europe, Čajkovski or Bozsik. After the game he was completely sure that Čajkovski is the best half player in Europe.
Čik had a lot of legendary duels with the opposition attackers, during his career, but one probably stands out from the others. Partizan was on the South-American tour and they had to play against Peñarol (beside other teams). The day of the game came, players came out on the field, referee was there, fans were there, but the start of the game was being postponed. Partizan players were wondering what is happening, and than they saw. 10-15 minutes after the game should start, the biggest star of Peñarol, Schiaffino, was coming on the field, with the crowd cheering like they were in trans. While he was coming on the field, Bobek said something to Čik, that probably struck the nerve. Čik was very eager to play, and he couldn't wait for the game start. Since the game started and right until the end, Schiaffino couldn't be found on the field. He was so outplayed by Čik, that he couldn't receive the ball for 15 minutes in a row. On top of that Čik dribbled, assisted and joined the attack. Miloš Milutinović later said that all Partizan players knew, that after that "movie star" entrance made by Schiaffino and Bobek's words, Čajkovski is going to be the best player on the field.
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Deco (Porto): Deco made 148 league appearances for Porto in 5 seasons between 1999 and 2004. He finished 2nd in the 2004 Ballon d'Or as winning the Portuguese League Footballer of the Year Award in the 2003/2004 season. Deco was hard-working, tactically intelligent, and had great ball control, dribbling and passing skills which helped him create chances often through passing lanes that no one else had spotted.

José Manuel Moreno (River Plate): Moreno played for 13 seasons in 2 spells at River 1935-1944 and 1946-1948 winning 6 league titles (interesting trivia: Moreno was the first player to win top flight league titles in 4 different countries). In 1999 IFFHS chose him as one of the 25 best footballers of the 20th century and in 1980 was given the Konex Platinum Award as the best player in the history of Argentine Football. In 4 seasons, between 1936 and 1939 in the Argentine league scored 24 in 33, 32 in 31, 24 in 31, and 20 in 24. In this post from 2005 at bigsoccer argentine soccer fan describes Moreno as follows:

He was a complete player with great ball skills who could play right, left, anywhere on the the field, went back to retrieve the ball, defended, and joined the attack, and was very capable of both creating chances and finishing them.
In this post @Pat_Mustard posted a profile which described Moreno as follows:

Moreno had the permanent magnetic presence of a rotating star for the fans. Very few came so close to such a unanimous admiration of the general public, and the attraction of multitudes of people to witness his masterful goals, his combinations, his dribbling, his vigorous headers (each cross from Peucelle that Moreno headed was generally a goal, especially in the NT) and elasticity, his conduction of attacks, his job as a hard worker for the ball in the back-line to build up progress going forward, his unsurpassed resistance, and his Apollo-like athletic figure that was admired by the people. He was the leader for his clubs and the NT. He had it all: speed, skill, mischief, and a panoramic view of the entire field which was a repertoire that made him as complete as anyone. He was a winner that gave his all and demanded all from his teammates. No one was more valiant than him – capable of playing injured with blood dripping or his tooth’s knocked out. His total personality brought the stands to their feet with the magnetism that’s reserved for the true idols – that was Moreno, an irreplaceable figure, which left a trail of unforgettable memories.
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Dimitris Saravakos (Panathinaikos): In his 10 seasons at Panathinaikos Saravakos scored 125 league goals in 252 league games winning 3 Greek Leagues and 6 Greek Cups. He is the all-time top scorer in the Panathinaikos-Olympiakos Derby with 16 goals (also scoring 9 goals in games with AEK Athens) and was the top scorer in the Greek League in the 1990/91 season with 23 goals (he scored 24 the following season). Juventus were interested in signing him after he scored against Juventus in both legs of a 1987/88 UEFA Cup clash. In 1988 Olympiakos tried to sign him for 600,000,000 Drachma (equivalant to more than 2 million pounds) but the bid was rejected. In 2021 the IFFHS chose him in their All-Time Greek XI. Saravakos's strengths were his finishing, intelligence and technique.

Ove Kindvall (Feyenoord): During his 5 seasons at Feyenoord Ove Kindvall finished as the top goalscorer in the Dutch league 3 times (67/68, 68/69 and 70/71) scoring 129 league goals in 144 league games for Feyenoord overall and finishing 4= (with Cruyff) in the 1969 Ballon d'Or. In this post at PES Miti del Calcio JeanMarc describes Kindvall as follows:

A player with fantastic sense for a goal and real danger in the box. He had fantastic acceleration, in first 10 meters his speed was amazing. Mobile striker with very high leap. He was used even in deep lying striker position but even as a attacking midfielder, especially in NT matches. Kindvall’s was an uncomplicated pattern. He didn’t particularly go in for complex dribbles or firing in powerful shots from distance. He was a goalscorer and concentrated on the skills that helped him to achieve that end. The first ten metres, where the initial pace is generated by the speed of thought and an ability to identify and exploit opportunities, was one of Kindvall’s most potent weapons. Add in that uncanny ability granted to all great goalscorers to know where and when to be in order to score, and Kindvall had the complete package.
Kylian Mbappe (PSG): Kylian Mbappe has spent 6 seasons so far at PSG scoring 148 league goals in 176 league appearances. Mbappe has been the Ligue 1 top goalscorer for each of the last 5 seasons. Excluding the 19/20 season where awards weren't given, during his time at PSG Mbappe has always been in the Ligue 1 team of the season and has been the Ligue 1 Player of the Year 4 out of 5 times.
 
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Demyanenko_square_jaw

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Not surprised zlatan ended up taking another keeper over Pletikosa. I think he's probably the worst player in the draft relative to the options that were available. A flop at both Shakhtar and Spartak and ended up at relegation battling Rostov. It's surprising a keeper of his standard could be a regular for so long at a good national team like Croatia.
 

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Like the emptyad in here :lol:

I don’t know most of mikes team so can’t comment much, would take a 2-1 win
 

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A concern I have with @Zlatan 7 side is that Mihajlovic didn't play CB at Red Star with wikipedia stating that he didn't play at CB until after he signed for Sampdoria in 1994. For the 4 games at Red Star that Transfermarkt have information on he played 2 at LM, 1 at DM and 1 at LB.
 

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A concern I have with @Zlatan 7 side is that Mihajlovic didn't play CB at Red Star with wikipedia stating that he didn't play at CB until after he signed for Sampdoria in 1994. For the 4 games at Red Star that Transfermarkt have information on he played 2 at LM, 1 at DM and 1 at LB.
I don’t know, Also according to transfer market in his career he played as
Centre back 273 times
DM 9 times
LB 7 times
LM 5 times

and played 38 games for red star
 

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A concern I have with @Zlatan 7 side is that Mihajlovic didn't play CB at Red Star with wikipedia stating that he didn't play at CB until after he signed for Sampdoria in 1994. For the 4 games at Red Star that Transfermarkt have information on he played 2 at LM, 1 at DM and 1 at LB.
True, all games i watched and watched every available one he didnt play as a centerback
 

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ffs zlatan you cant even win a coin toss!