I do like him but I don't think we've seen the player we all thought we would when we signed him. He was hyped alongside TAA as the best full back in the league last season and he hasn't looked anywhere close to that for us. Hopefully he improves.
That's just incorrect.You see this is what annoys me. Valencia and Young are hardly the benchmark. We all know they were/are poor players who long outstayed their welcome at the club.
Wouldn't even put AWB above Rafael da Silva at this stage from what iv seen so far. Rafael was vastly superior on the ball.
It's funny now we're resorting to shitting on one of our better players to just keep feeding the negativity. Fair enough were not doing well, but AWB is no where near the source of the issues.No actually, Liverpool’s fullbacks have 11 assists between them so he should have at least 6 by himself for the money Utd paid. Ole (and everyone else) out. Or something.
Yes but you don't have to spend £50m to get a lot better than we had, when what we had was Ashley Young.He is a lot better than we had in that area for years and hopefully his attacking contribution will improve.
I agree, he also had a decent shot yesterday. It may be a touch blinkered and a cop-out but I'd prefer not to judge his attacking prowess until he's playing in a better more proactive side. It's clear he's not some barnstorming Carlos/Cafu-type but he does get forward, his passing is ok and he's not as allergic to assisting and shooting as he's being made out to be.I don't think he's as bad on the ball as is being suggested. He put in some good crosses today but our forwards don't attack them, but he's putting them in the areas where strikers should be running in to. His ball retention and passing is good in tight spaces as well, he manages to get his pass away under pressure, in those kinds of situations on the other wing, Young would just he hammering it long and in to touch.
He gets forward, but doesn't seem to know what to do. I'd just like to see him run at his man and knock it past him more often. He's got the pace to rinse most defenders, he's just not doing it often enough. There's a lot for him to work on for sure, but a lot of tools to work with
We overpaid because we always do, but he was a solid acquisition.
We are a better structured team than you are, that makes a hell of a difference. Not a better team obviously, just better structured and that allowed him to shine with us. There is a proper player in there, he just needs consistently good coaching and a club willing to show some patience. The patience part is all on you lot. His potential is massive.I have to be honest, he was far better for Palace than he’s been for us.
ThisOnce we get a decent manager who can coach the attacking players into a system that is fluid enough to offer a diverse amount of movement, our fallbacks will improve along with the wider forwards.
Without a doubt no.Lucky for us he is only 22, tackling wise he is top-notch, attacking wise, a slug going over salt comes to mind, but as I would like to reiterate he is 22, so he does have time to improve, the question should be, do we have the coaching staff to actually improve him as a player?
It doesn't work like that anymore, no winger is good enough to take on a defence alone, we need a quality fullback to create overloads.It is weakness, but it doesn't help that we don't have a proper right winger. Add someone like Sancho there and it will help him a lot, it will allow Sancho freedom to focus on attacking and finding space while AWB can do what he does best and defend.
Totally agree with all of this.We are a better structured team than you are, that makes a hell of a difference. Not a better team obviously, just better structured and that allowed him to shine with us. There is a proper player in there, he just needs consistently good coaching and a club willing to show some patience. The patience part is all on you lot. His potential is massive.
Wrong mentality to be hoping for something when you bought a player for 50m.We knew this before he signed. Hopefully he can improve on the ball.
Unlike Young or Valencia he's so good at tackling I can just about forgive how bad he looks on the ball.
He's not good enough on the ball for the wide open space at full back where he has the touchline at his back and everything is in front of him, so let's play him in central midfield?I said that in his thread after one of his first games here.
Hes far too limited on the ball to be a long term option at full back.
At a top team the only position I could ever see him playing at is as a ball winner in midfield.
I would personally have liked to keep Rafael.Hardly saying a lot is it? We've been league 2 standard at right back since Rafael left us.
I'd say he's well behind Rafael Da Silva so far though. He just isn't a good footballer. Great tackler and that's it. Been a poor signing for me. We need some creativity especially when we aren't creating much in the middle of the park. Liverpool don't creat much in the middle either but have world class fullbacks. We don't.
He can, but he's obviously not like Alexander-Arnold or Trippier in attacking areas. He can dribble his way past, but his delivery isnt particularly goodI have stuck to my guns from the off on this. He's a very good tackler with his spider like legs but on the ball I don't even think he's in the top 10 right backs in the league let alone Europe. £50m seems like a hell of a lot of money for someone who can tackle.
What else is he offering? Looks petrified when the ball comes his way. I heard someone on a fan cam call him the best right back in the league earlier today. Can we stop this nonsense right now? He's not even close. You have to be able to play football too and he can't quite frankly.
That was never true. Some quote is attributed to Maldini and people take those words as some sort of bible.I find his positioning to be poor, hence the number of tackles he HAS to make. If he was in better positions he would cut the ball out or even cut the passing lane before it becomes an option.
He is always too far forward and therefore needs to constantly chase back.
It is hard to judge his attacking ability though because we are so poor at it as a team, that even if he creates a chance it isn't converted.
I agree that £50M is a lot to pay for a fullback as an upgrade to sley Young. But due to him being young and British we had to pay a high fee.Yes but you don't have to spend £50m to get a lot better than we had, when what we had was Ashley Young.
It's like saying £50k for a Vauxhall Corsa is justified, because you've been riding a bicycle for your entire life.
Having to make a tackle is 1 thing but being in the position to have to make 30+ after 14 games is excessive when you think that 2nd behind him is Ndidi who is the DM for 2nd place in the league.That was never true. Some quote is attributed to Maldini and people take those words as some sort of bible.
Players will have to make tackle no matter how good their positioning is. That quote might be true only for CBs and even for them it's half truth.
He is a FB which means he always faces wingers/FBs one vs one. He can't intercept, no one can. Only way to win the ball is by tackling or just blocking the passing lane and making someone else to win the ball.Having to make a tackle is 1 thing but being in the position to have to make 30+ after 14 games is excessive when you think that 2nd behind him is Ndidi who is the DM for 2nd place in the league.
The ball is always getting in behind him, whether on the floor or 9ver his head and he is always chasing back.