Which big signing and where would they take us?

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So we are being linked with a host of names this season that seem unattainable, such as Neymar, Bale, Muller & Reus.

1. Who would you rather have? Neymar, Bale, Muller, Reus or other
(excluding Messi & Ronaldo)

2. Where what that player take us in comparison to other big teams? Would we stand on par with Madrid/ Barca & Bayern?

3. Would you rather we didn't chase these big unattainable names and concentrate on more realistic targets, ending any chance of getting these big stars, but meaning you could well have had a few lesser signings already, such as maybe Garay & Benteke

Could we possibly get a poll added for the 3 options with variations?
 
Well if you've not actually been watching the football, Benteke is at Liverpool. Secondly United are no contention of getting any them big names like Neymar, Bale, Muller, Reus etc. It's too late into the market now, these players are settled and don't really show any indication or reason to leave there current clubs.

The Media is really leeching on these stories like "Neymar talks" and some people are actually buying it. Why on earth would Neymar join United where he is part of one the best attacking trio in world football. Its bonkers. Bale has reiterated that he wants to stay at Madrid, Reus is a loyal Dortmand player, he isn't leaving. and Muller wont join because Bayern has already sold one of their players to United, there no way they're gonna sell another player to the same club.

So it is completely unknown what Eddy and LVG conjuring behind close doors. It's obvious they need an attacking player, so who that will be is unknown. It depends how much are they willing to spend, if they will spend stupid amount of money then the options are Higuian, Lacazette or Griezman but if they're not willing to spend that big then they wont sign anyone. Because due to last season with getting rid of mediocre deadwood, they dont want to overspend on more mediocre deadwood.
 
All we need is one big attacking signing to be up there with City as favourites for the league IMO because one player like Griezmann, Reus, Muller, Bale would make our attack click and give us that other option out wide so we aren't reliant on Memphis to do something right now, and everyone would play better as a result. You always need multiple players making runs in behind and the quality to pick them out. We have the quality to pick them out, but only Memphis making runs (and last year we had nobody making runs basically). While Memphis is a hugely talented and promising player, he's only 21, and new to the league, so we can't rely on him to bail us out always. Bringing in one of the others I mentioned earlier would give us that quality and pace on the right, who make attacking runs and score goals, would give Rooney and Mata more space to do their thing and it would stretch teams more so it would enable Memphis to do more as well so he isn't closed down all the time. We're too compact and it's too easy to close us down currently because while Mata has been playing really well, he only has Memphis to pass it to basically because everybody else comes short to receive the ball. Just doesn't work.
 
Well if you've not actually been watching the football, Benteke is at Liverpool. Secondly United are no contention of getting any them big names like Neymar, Bale, Muller, Reus etc. It's too late into the market now, these players are settled and don't really show any indication or reason to leave there current clubs.

The Media is really leeching on these stories like "Neymar talks" and some people are actually buying it. Why on earth would Neymar join United where he is part of one the best attacking trio in world football. Its bonkers. Bale has reiterated that he wants to stay at Madrid, Reus is a loyal Dortmand player, he isn't leaving. and Muller wont join because Bayern has already sold one of their players to United, there no way they're gonna sell another player to the same club.

So it is completely unknown what Eddy and LVG conjuring behind close doors. It's obvious they need an attacking player, so who that will be is unknown. It depends how much are they willing to spend, if they will spend stupid amount of money then the options are Higuian, Lacazette or Griezman but if they're not willing to spend that big then they wont sign anyone. Because due to last season with getting rid of mediocre deadwood, they dont want to overspend on more mediocre deadwood.
Good post. Sums it up perfectly imo.
 
feck knows. Zlatan? It'd be fun. Paul Scholes agrees with me.
 
All we need is one big attacking signing to be up there with City as favourites for the league IMO because one player like Griezmann, Reus, Muller, Bale would make our attack click and give us that other option out wide so we aren't reliant on Memphis to do something right now, and everyone would play better as a result. You always need multiple players making runs in behind and the quality to pick them out. We have the quality to pick them out, but only Memphis making runs (and last year we had nobody making runs basically). While Memphis is a hugely talented and promising player, he's only 21, and new to the league, so we can't rely on him to bail us out always. Bringing in one of the others I mentioned earlier would give us that quality and pace on the right, who make attacking runs and score goals, would give Rooney and Mata more space to do their thing and it would stretch teams more so it would enable Memphis to do more as well so he isn't closed down all the time. We're too compact and it's too easy to close us down currently because while Mata has been playing really well, he only has Memphis to pass it to basically because everybody else comes short to receive the ball. Just doesn't work.
As @FacerTheRed says, the only one attainable from your list is Griezmann. But also as said; this depends entirely on a) are we willing to pay the £60m it will take to get him, plus the high wages he'll probably want, and b) does he want to come here?
 
no ones that big is coming , maybe as an end of career move when they are older. using united for new contracts etc.
 
In terms of another "big signing" you'd have to say Cavani is the most likely.

Wouldn't mind him at this stage. A big lump that's technically pretty gifted and scores his fair share of goals. Probably the right thing for us. But PSG seem to plan with him, especially as they look to ship Zlatan out.
 
In terms of another "big signing" you'd have to say Cavani is the most likely.
To me, Cavani seems to be a "big name" but isn't the player we need. I've always felt a little bit 'meh' when i've watched him play. I would be happy because he's better than Rooney up front but I would prefer other players like Bale. I suppose, though, we've just got to be looking at players who are attainable and I believe Cavani would be at the right price. Would prefer Griezmann at the right price.
 
I'd love a motivated Benzema at United. Think he'd fit like a glove & wouldbring the best out of the players around him, as well as scoring important goals. He'd probably turn us into genuine title contenders. That said if Real forced him out he'd probably turn into a lazy overweight Cnut & just be here for the money.
 
I personally think 2 players are we would be right back in the hunt for the title. I have no problem chasing one of the big names, I certainly don't find it embarrassing, though the chances of getting one now seems slim.

I do think we will add, and Zlatan would be one I suspect might come in late, get a winger as well and we will be very strong.
 
So we are being linked with a host of names this season that seem unattainable, such as Neymar, Bale, Muller & Reus.

1. Who would you rather have? Neymar, Bale, Muller, Reus or other
(excluding Messi & Ronaldo)

2. Where what that player take us in comparison to other big teams? Would we stand on par with Madrid/ Barca & Bayern?

3. Would you rather we didn't chase these big unattainable names and concentrate on more realistic targets, ending any chance of getting these big stars, but meaning you could well have had a few lesser signings already, such as maybe Garay & Benteke

Could we possibly get a poll added for the 3 options with variations?

I only think one name there is realistic, and is also the type of player we should be pursuing rather than pipe dreams (but unfortunately I don't want him at United) and he does not deserve to be in the mix with those other players named.

He might end up in that bracket but he's not there yet. I reckon currently he's somewhere between a Memphis & Sterling.
 
We can forget about any player from Real, Barca, Bayern, City, Liverpool (rivals who would never sell to us) or PSG that they don't want to sell and if they are trying to get rid of someone it's usually a big red flag. So we should stay away from players from these clubs.

I have said this time and time again but the most interesting players in today's market that aren't playing for the before mentioned teams need to be our primary targets. Griezmann, Reus, Pogba and de Bruyne for example would give our attack a completely new dimension and even some youngsters like Oliver who are such a great talents that they will almost certainly end up at a top club in some years wouldn't be a bad move either. Will they be expensive? Of course, with the spending power we have and the current market they will coast a shitload of money but we have to invest it if we ever hope to gain any ground on the likes of Barca, Real and Bayern.

I also feel we need to be more ruthless when it comes to getting players from the teams that are a level below us. Bayern got Lewandowski almost two years before his contract up hooked on joining them and he wouldn't consider any other move anymore. Suarez was hell bend on getting his move to Barca and no good words or improved contract could convince him to stay more than an additional season at Liverpool. Real did the same to us with Ronaldo and we need to find a way to show the rising top players that coming to United will be the bet chance forward for them and if that means overspending in the next couple of years on wages and transfer fees it's a pill we're going to have to swallow.

The alternative is to buy really young players that and gamble on their development but the chances of failure are much higher this way and the time we would be going without a trophy is something I doubt many fans and sponsors would want to deal with.
 
Id take Zlatan just for the sheer novelty of the guy. Would love for him to kung-fu kick some of our players in the backside. Plus it helps that he's not too bad at footy...
 
As @FacerTheRed says, the only one attainable from your list is Griezmann. But also as said; this depends entirely on a) are we willing to pay the £60m it will take to get him, plus the high wages he'll probably want, and b) does he want to come here?

Griezmann is the only target I can think of who is attainable, and if it takes £60m to get him it'll be £60m well spent for the effect a player like that will have on our attack; he is perfect for the RW/RF position in a 4-3-3 and a fan of the club to boot.

Zlatan, Cavani and Lacazette are all other options who are attainable but the only ones with serious pace are Lacazette and Griezmann.
 
We need another striker so why not get someone if the ilk of zlatan . We might get 2 seasons max but ge could have the cantona effect on us and give us a couple of title pushes until someone like bale becomes available .
I'm sure if bale as a season like the last one he will become surplus to requirements at Madrid but instead of waiting till that happens we need to give ourselves a chance of silverware in the meantime .
If we can't get someone like de bruyne or reus now then why not look short term at zlatan instead of probably spunking 60m on a panic buy like cavani
 
Griezmann is one I'd think would suit us very well. No chance at this time now though, leaving us few options. Reus is also excellent but not this summer. I think De Bruyne is the most realistic by far but looks like we've lost out anyway. At this point we might as well wait for next summer, hopefully there are more available then. The sad thing is we could have gone for Vietto/Dybala/Lacazette/even Griezmann earlier on but it's too late now.
 
Griezmann is one I'd think would suit us very well. No chance at this time now though, leaving us few options. Reus is also excellent but not this summer. I think De Bruyne is the most realistic by far but looks like we've lost out anyway. At this point we might as well wait for next summer, hopefully there are more available then. The sad thing is we could have gone for Vietto/Dybala/Lacazette/even Griezmann earlier on but it's too late now.
I think the right offer would get us Griezmann even now. They would find it difficult to turn a bid of £60m down IMO, and if we double his wages; so will he. I dont think we will get anybody in now though. If we do, it will be a squad player like Mane. I hope we don't. I would rather we wait till next summer now but I would hope that we actually get our targets early on next summer rather than letting them pass us by. People will say we signed Schmidfield, Memphis etc but we also let some others slip through as well.
 
we are never really going to sign a player at his peak from barca, bayern or madrid that they want to keep...we never have...

But signing players on the cusp, like a roy keane in 93, a hazard at lille, griezmann at sociedad, silva at valencia or an aguero at city..

we need to sign players that are desperate to be here...you can hear when someone like darmian or herrera speaks about the club, that it really is a dream for them....im not talking about tosic, obertan punts...but good players ready to take that final step..

We dont really need big names for marketing purposes..,is it really a coincidence that the two most marketable footballers in the last 20 years became stars here? We can make stars for brand purposes
 
No idea who is most/least likely as they're all pretty impossible but as for who I'd like...

Neymar or Muller > Bale or Reus
 
So we are being linked with a host of names this season that seem unattainable, such as Neymar, Bale, Muller & Reus.

1. Who would you rather have? Neymar, Bale, Muller, Reus or other
(excluding Messi & Ronaldo)

2. Where what that player take us in comparison to other big teams? Would we stand on par with Madrid/ Barca & Bayern?

3. Would you rather we didn't chase these big unattainable names and concentrate on more realistic targets, ending any chance of getting these big stars, but meaning you could well have had a few lesser signings already, such as maybe Garay & Benteke

Could we possibly get a poll added for the 3 options with variations?

Reus is not on the level as the others mentioned. Don't mistake that for me saying he's not as talented. Bale or Muller would be great.
 
Pedro would have been perfect. Top Player for a Position where we could have needed strengthening. Easy to get for a reasonable Price.

My muppet signing would have been Reus followed by Bale and Griezmann.

However, it is to late now and I hope we do not make a Panic signing and overpay for a Player we do not really Need.
 
I hope Woowdard takes a plane to Madrid and throws the warchest at Isco.
 
Zlatan on a one-year contract with option for a second wouldn't be a bad idea.

He could do an RvP and take us places for a year, even if we look to offload him shortly thereafter.
 
Pedro would have been perfect. Top Player for a Position where we could have needed strengthening. Easy to get for a reasonable Price.

My muppet signing would have been Reus followed by Bale and Griezmann.

However, it is to late now and I hope we do not make a Panic signing and overpay for a Player we do not really Need.

Is it really too late for Griezmann though?
With the right offer (around £50M) would land him IMO.
 
Lewandowski is the player that would make the biggest difference IMO. I know we could do with some more pace for the RW but in the current system we lack a #9 with the all round game required to make the attack click IMO. Rooney doesn't look comfortable playing with his back to goal and lacks the agility and touch to exploit it, plus I frankly think he isn't happy being so disconnected from the hustle of the game.
 
1. Bale for me - he would be the answer to our striker and creativity problems all in one

2. It would enable us to challenge for the title this season

3. Dunno - depends if we can get the likes of Bale.
 
Listen to yourselves...almost every player is attainable these days with enough money, there's no loyalty left in football now and the players hold all the power.

We are arguably one of the top three clubs in the World and most of these targeted players have release clauses, it's just a matter of convincing them to come to us. We play in the most popular league in the World, we have a huge fan base and an enormity of funds. Manchester City managed to convince players of the calibre of Sergio Aguero, Robinho, Yaya Toure, David Silva etc with money alone. We have the history, prestige and global marketability that they've never had, if we throw enough money you never know who could turn.

No one thought we could sign a Di Maria or Falcao last season, but the deals can be made quickly when we need to. We've barely spent £10m net in the transfer window and have shaved a significant amount from the wage bill, so the money is, in theory, there.

In terms of value for money, the Pedro deal was a no brainer. I think the club want a bigger name though, someone that'll sell shirts and boost revenue. That's the Woodward way. But there are still plenty of players around that can improve us.

I'd have loved to see Lewandowski in a United shirt, but we lack pace more than anything, so I'd prefer to go all out for Reus or Bale. I don't think Griezmann has the same pace and he's a little lightweight, but he's probably the most natural on the right and has a beautiful left foot, plus he's got the technical ability to suit the Van Gaal style of play. Again, no complaints if we went for him. De Bruyne is one that doesn't really interest me, he had a great season in Germany but he hardly set the Premier League alight in his stint at Chelsea. I think he'd do well at City but we need off the ball movement, and I see De Bruyne as a player that picks out the final pass, as evident by his assist ratio last season. Mane has been linked and he certainly provides pace and PL experience, but Southampton are in a strong position so there's probably no value there. He'd be a decent acquisition, mind. Bale apart though, are these really the galactico that Woodward wants?

Muller is a perfect fit for this system but he doesn't win games on his own like the others might, and I don't think he'd be as effective for us right now without a better forward line. He's also probably the least attainable as Bayern really won't want to sell and don't need to.

Then we have the only one that I really don't want, the one that we are reportedly after right now, Neymar. I just don't like him, he dives and cheats more than any other player I've seen, and I'm not sure he'd excel in a more physical league. Chile and Columbia have shown how to nullify him, and he won't get the protection in England that he is used to. He'd sell shirts and increase sponsorship revenue, but he's simply not worth the money being quoted when he's arguably the greatest risk.

Ronaldo would be the great signing, and I actually think Real Madrid would sell if the money was right, but he'd probably cost us as much as we've sold him for, and there is no telling how he will age. He looks in great shape so it would be a risk worth taking, but his physicality is such a crucial part of his game that he'd be a fraction of the player without it. The major stumbling block would be his willingness to leave though, he's clearly goal orientated and he obviously wants the legacy of that goal record.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic is the most obvious one, his club have already said he's available and he immediately improves us. He's got the physicality to dominate in this league but I'd still worry that we lack pace if he's the only one coming in. Should be fairly cheap although wages would be huge, and he'll want a decent length of contract too, I suspect. It's another risk though, he's fiery and likely to clash with the manager, but his value on the pitch would warrant a bit of ego massage in my opinion.

It could be anyone, but I feel we're not finished yet in this window. Anyone but Neymar, and I'm happy enough, but I fear we will have to overspend again to get any movement at this late stage. Reus would be my pick though, I think he'd be good value and Dortmund would sell if the money was right. It's just a matter of convincing the player...
 
Muller. He'd slot straight into Van Gaal's system.