Mainoldo
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Really like him but can’t ignore his poor form.
Rice is not possible. While all 3 midfielders, Tielemans is nothing like the other 2No thanks, better options out there, not had a good season for Leicester....would rather see Neves and Rice
I would agree and stay away if he was 28, but he is 25 and should enter the best phase of his career, considering he started early.Really like him but can’t ignore his poor form.
Well this is it. I see him as an alternative to De Jong. So would be a big move to get him instead (If De Jong is gettable that is).I would agree and stay away if he was 28, but he is 25 and should enter the best phase of his career, considering he started early.
For a good fee, i would give him a 4 year contract. I think ETH can work with him. We still need someone more defensive though.
If we were bold we would sign him as De Jongs under study and sell McTominayWell this is it. I see him as an alternative to De Jong. So would be a big move to get him instead (If De Jong is gettable that is).
But we would still need that combative player alongside him.
Swap him with a bit of money on top to Leicester. Sounds perfect. They owe us anyway.If we were bold we would sign him as De Jongs under study and sell McTominay
This is a big worry of mine with him. Maybe six months ago there was a graph floating around the internet charting total career minutes played for all PL players by age and there was one line that was a serious outlier and it was Tielemans. Its not a normal trajectory whatsoever. The flip side is that his injury record is extremely good, which is part of the reason he has played so much. And the burnout might not happen for a couple more years. But I would definitely not want to bet on Tielemans at age 29-30.Look at the volume of games and mins he has played compared to others his age. It is unbelievable. If anyone will burn out at a younger age, it will be him.
Between United, Wales, Wales U21 and GB Olympic Team, Giggs played 1039 matches retiring aged 40. Tielemans is 25 and has already played 471 matches for club, Belgium and Belgium U21. Rashford is six months younger and has only played 350 exactly in comparison.
So now Journos are reporting on who we are NOT interested in? Interesting angle for clicks….
That's it. He's discount Pogba. He needs carrying and he just isn't good enough for that.He is actually not that great defensively and tend to miss the runners. We will just get an degraded version of Pogba. Still think he would be best in a 3 man midfield role . Something like Fred, DM, Tielemans would be nice.
Not so sure in a 2 man midfield.
What happened to him actually? Burnt out? Losing motivation? Lack of fitness?He has been mainly average for Leicester this season with only occasional flashes of brilliance. His form coupled with his contact means we will be lucky to get 25-30 for him this Summer.
What are the better options though?No thanks, better options out there, not had a good season for Leicester....would rather see Neves and Rice
If our scouting department still can't look beyond options as obvious as these (no offence intended, its just the standard bunch talked about by casual football fans such as me and you) then we'll never get out of this mess.What are the better options though?
- de Jong seems not interested in joining us
- Tchouameni is only choosing between Liverpool and Real
- Kamara is going to join Villa for free
- Rice is priced at 150m
- Neves is priced at 100m
- Bellingham is not available in the market
So it’s likely only Philips and Tielemans.
He seems to have lost his motivation this season & apparently the same thing happened when he was at Monaco !!What happened to him actually? Burnt out? Losing motivation? Lack of fitness?
Has he always been this season lazy defensively?
Only if it is that easy to identify the next best thing.....If our scouting department still can't look beyond options as obvious as these (no offence intended, its just the standard bunch talked about by casual football fans such as me and you) then we'll never get out of this mess.
We need to be identifying the next Kante, Fofana, Mane, Salah etc, as we no longer have the luxury or the pull to simply cherry pick this year's RVP, Rooney or Rio.
He's played an insane amount of games in last couple of years. Think it finally caught up with him. He'll be fine with a bit of rest.What happened to him actually? Burnt out? Losing motivation? Lack of fitness?
Has he always been this season lazy defensively?
IF Neves goes, I don't see it being anywhere near the £100m. Good player and all that.What are the better options though?
- de Jong seems not interested in joining us
- Tchouameni is only choosing between Liverpool and Real
- Kamara is going to join Villa for free
- Rice is priced at 150m
- Neves is priced at 100m
- Bellingham is not available in the market
So it’s likely only Philips and Tielemans.
Its going to be another Sancho situation isn't it? Won't be anywhere near the asking price of 100m, but won't be anywhere near 50m either. Probably somewhere in between, I'd say 70-80mIF Neves goes, I don't see it being anywhere near the £100m. Good player and all that.
For sure, but we're a shambles. Properly well run clubs with functioning scouting departments can do this kind of thing with a much higher rate of success (It's always going to be 60-70% at the best of times, I'd say).Only if it is that easy to identify the next best thing.....
I mean, we have been trying many times in the past 8 years, and we end up with the followings:
- Fellaini
- Schneiderlin
- Shaw
- Rojo
- Mkhitaryan
- Martial
- Depay
- Darmian
- Blind
- Bailly
- Fred
- Dalot
- Lindelof
- AWB
- James
- VDB
- Diallo
- Pellistri
- Telles
You think he's worth investing that kind of cash for one player.Its going to be another Sancho situation isn't it? Won't be anywhere near the asking price of 100m, but won't be anywhere near 50m either. Probably somewhere in between, I'd say 70-80m
I’d rather bring in neves from wolves instead, he’d offer so much more to the side alongside a DM like Kamara
Tbf Leicester have been ravaged with injuries most of the season. He's a very good player and a snip for anyone who gets him for 25-30m.Thinks he is a better player than he is - has been really quite poor this season.
I don't think he ever played well for Monaco, he was labeled a flop there.Didn’t the same thing happen in his last season at Monaco? His form basically nosedived in his final season there.
Is it form, or is he just fair-weather.