50s Retro Football Fantasy Draft

[Gio]

There's a tache to rival Souness.

 

[Interval]

10 minutes . Just debating a decision.

 

[Interval]

Compared to the best sweepers in the world during his peak

Spoiler

Bruno Pezzey

 

[Crustanoid]

Need a right sided player who can provide defensive cover...

Patrick Battiston, veteran of three world cups

 

[Nani Nana]

my pick is Alessandro Altobelli

 

[Crustanoid]

Was wondering when he'd go - nearly got him when I picked Valdano

 

[Brwned]

Hereeeeeeeee's Johnny

Terry Butcher

Jayvin: 1. SCIREA 2. FERNANDEZ 3. HODDLE 4. FORSTER 5. EDER 6. KRANKL 7. PROHASKA 8. DEMYANENKO 9. MCGRAIN 10.

Duffy: 1. ROBBO 2. KEEGAN 3. BLOKHIN 4. CABRINI 5. ANCELOTTI 6. NEAL 7. BRIO 8. LAWRENSON 9. HOUSEMAN 10.

TDon69: 1. ZICO 2. TIGANA 3. TRESOR 4. DINAMITE 5. JUNIOR 6. BOCHINI 7. LEANDRO 8. ALDRIDGE 9. ZMUDA 10.

Gio: 1. PLATINI 2. SOUNESS 3. HANSEN 4. ELKJAER 5. REP 6. BRADY 7. CHA BUM KUN 8. PREUD'HOMME 9. BOSSIS 10.

antohan: 1. FALCAO 2. BONIEK 3. SCHUSTER 4. SIMONSEN 5. BRIEGEL 6. LERBY 7. GERETS 8. DASAYEV 9 . CHIVADZE 10.

Interval Level: 1. PASSARELLA 2. ROSSI 3. BREITNER 4. CONTI 5. DORNER 6. MIGUELI 7. LATO 8. CUETO 9. PEZZEY 10.

Crustanoid: 1. SOCRATES 2. GENTILE 3. DALGLISH 4. STIELIKE 5. OSCAR 6. VALDANO 7. JUANITO 8. GORDILLO 9. BATTISTON 10.

Nani Nana: 1. MCGRATH 2. TARDELLI 3. GIRESSE 4. ROGER MILLA 5. AUGENTHALER 6. COLLOVATI 7. HOENESS 8. SANTILLANA 9. ALTOBELLI 10.

Brwned: 1. NEESKENS 2. HUGO SANCHEZ 3. VIERCHOWOD 4. ANTOGNONI 5. ARDILES 6. BETTEGA 7. KALTZ 8. TARANTINI 9. BUTCHER 10.

Polaroid: 1. RUMMENIGGE 2. KEMPES 3. CEREZO 4. CEULEMANS 5. SCHUMACHER 6. CAMACHO 7. BONHOFF 8. SUSIC 9. 10.

 

[The Don]

Maybe lacking a bit of class but say what you want about him, he was hard to get past, he'd tackle anything that moved and never pulled out of a challenge.
Brilliant defender to add a bit of steel to any team.

 

[antohan]

Chaps, fancy doing the same as last night and going on a run after Polaroid shows up?

Wide's birthday tomorrow, she will kill me if I'm faffing about on here!

 

[The Don]

I'll be around from now till late. Might watch a film with the missus in a while though, but I'll keep checking on my phone. Films are shit anyways. Fantasy football drafts is where its at!

 

[Crustanoid]

I'm still about if anyone wants to PM me

 

[Polaroid]

Jayvin: 1. SCIREA 2. FERNANDEZ 3. HODDLE 4. FORSTER 5. EDER 6. KRANKL 7. PROHASKA 8. DEMYANENKO 9. MCGRAIN 10.

Duffy: 1. ROBBO 2. KEEGAN 3. BLOKHIN 4. CABRINI 5. ANCELOTTI 6. NEAL 7. BRIO 8. LAWRENSON 9. HOUSEMAN 10.

TDon69: 1. ZICO 2. TIGANA 3. TRESOR 4. DINAMITE 5. JUNIOR 6. BOCHINI 7. LEANDRO 8. ALDRIDGE 9. ZMUDA 10.

Gio: 1. PLATINI 2. SOUNESS 3. HANSEN 4. ELKJAER 5. REP 6. BRADY 7. CHA BUM KUN 8. PREUD'HOMME 9. BOSSIS 10.

antohan: 1. FALCAO 2. BONIEK 3. SCHUSTER 4. SIMONSEN 5. BRIEGEL 6. LERBY 7. GERETS 8. DASAYEV 9 . CHIVADZE 10.

Interval Level: 1. PASSARELLA 2. ROSSI 3. BREITNER 4. CONTI 5. DORNER 6. MIGUELI 7. LATO 8. CUETO 9. PEZZEY 10.

Crustanoid: 1. SOCRATES 2. GENTILE 3. DALGLISH 4. STIELIKE 5. OSCAR 6. VALDANO 7. JUANITO 8. GORDILLO 9. BATTISTON 10.

Nani Nana: 1. MCGRATH 2. TARDELLI 3. GIRESSE 4. ROGER MILLA 5. AUGENTHALER 6. COLLOVATI 7. HOENESS 8. SANTILLANA 9. ALTOBELLI 10.

Brwned: 1. NEESKENS 2. HUGO SANCHEZ 3. VIERCHOWOD 4. ANTOGNONI 5. ARDILES 6. BETTEGA 7. KALTZ 8. TARANTINI 9. BUTCHER 10.

Polaroid: 1. RUMMENIGGE 2. KEMPES 3. CEREZO 4. CEULEMANS 5. SCHUMACHER 6. CAMACHO 7. BONHOFF 8. SUSIC 9. BESSONOV 10. REINALDO

 

[Brwned]

Was set on getting a Bessonov-Demyanenko partnership myself early on, Kaltz was too good to turn down though. Bessonov not only dominated the right flank for years, he won MOTM playing in centre mid against Graeme Souness and co.

Fillol.

 

[Brwned]

Jayvin: 1. SCIREA 2. FERNANDEZ 3. HODDLE 4. FORSTER 5. EDER 6. KRANKL 7. PROHASKA 8. DEMYANENKO 9. MCGRAIN 10.

Duffy: 1. ROBBO 2. KEEGAN 3. BLOKHIN 4. CABRINI 5. ANCELOTTI 6. NEAL 7. BRIO 8. LAWRENSON 9. HOUSEMAN 10.

TDon69: 1. ZICO 2. TIGANA 3. TRESOR 4. DINAMITE 5. JUNIOR 6. BOCHINI 7. LEANDRO 8. ALDRIDGE 9. ZMUDA 10.

Gio: 1. PLATINI 2. SOUNESS 3. HANSEN 4. ELKJAER 5. REP 6. BRADY 7. CHA BUM KUN 8. PREUD'HOMME 9. BOSSIS 10.

antohan: 1. FALCAO 2. BONIEK 3. SCHUSTER 4. SIMONSEN 5. BRIEGEL 6. LERBY 7. GERETS 8. DASAYEV 9 . CHIVADZE 10.

Interval Level: 1. PASSARELLA 2. ROSSI 3. BREITNER 4. CONTI 5. DORNER 6. MIGUELI 7. LATO 8. CUETO 9. PEZZEY 10.

Crustanoid: 1. SOCRATES 2. GENTILE 3. DALGLISH 4. STIELIKE 5. OSCAR 6. VALDANO 7. JUANITO 8. GORDILLO 9. BATTISTON 10.

Nani Nana: 1. MCGRATH 2. TARDELLI 3. GIRESSE 4. ROGER MILLA 5. AUGENTHALER 6. COLLOVATI 7. HOENESS 8. SANTILLANA 9. ALTOBELLI 10.

Brwned: 1. NEESKENS 2. HUGO SANCHEZ 3. VIERCHOWOD 4. ANTOGNONI 5. ARDILES 6. BETTEGA 7. KALTZ 8. TARANTINI 9. BUTCHER 10. FILLOL

Polaroid: 1. RUMMENIGGE 2. KEMPES 3. CEREZO 4. CEULEMANS 5. SCHUMACHER 6. CAMACHO 7. BONHOFF 8. SUSIC 9. BESSONOV 10. REINALDO

 

[The Don]

Reinaldo, they said that if he and Careca had have been available for the 82 world cup, Brazil would not only have walked the tournament, but could have claimed the title of most talented Brazil tournament squad ever.

Didn't know much about him myself, but from what I've read he was very much revered. They even called him 'The King' which was also a play on the first three letters of his name being the word for king in Portuguese.

 

[Nani Nana]

my final outfield pick is Americo GALLEGO, 73 caps for Argentina

as for the discussion concerning how the tournament should be organised, I let you guys decide

 

[Crustanoid]

Willy Van Der Kerhof - one of the key parts of Holland's seventies team

I needed someone both skilful and versatile to fit my other midfielders and provide different options for formations. However Van Der Kerhof is far more than a cog in a system and had considerable individual merit, making the FIFA 100 list of all time great players

 

[Crustanoid]

Jayvin: 1. SCIREA 2. FERNANDEZ 3. HODDLE 4. FORSTER 5. EDER 6. KRANKL 7. PROHASKA 8. DEMYANENKO 9. MCGRAIN 10.

Duffy: 1. ROBBO 2. KEEGAN 3. BLOKHIN 4. CABRINI 5. ANCELOTTI 6. NEAL 7. BRIO 8. LAWRENSON 9. HOUSEMAN 10.

TDon69: 1. ZICO 2. TIGANA 3. TRESOR 4. DINAMITE 5. JUNIOR 6. BOCHINI 7. LEANDRO 8. ALDRIDGE 9. ZMUDA 10.

Gio: 1. PLATINI 2. SOUNESS 3. HANSEN 4. ELKJAER 5. REP 6. BRADY 7. CHA BUM KUN 8. PREUD'HOMME 9. BOSSIS 10.

antohan: 1. FALCAO 2. BONIEK 3. SCHUSTER 4. SIMONSEN 5. BRIEGEL 6. LERBY 7. GERETS 8. DASAYEV 9 . CHIVADZE 10.

Interval Level: 1. PASSARELLA 2. ROSSI 3. BREITNER 4. CONTI 5. DORNER 6. MIGUELI 7. LATO 8. CUETO 9. PEZZEY 10.

Crustanoid: 1. SOCRATES 2. GENTILE 3. DALGLISH 4. STIELIKE 5. OSCAR 6. VALDANO 7. JUANITO 8. GORDILLO 9. BATTISTON 10. VAN DER KERHOFF

Nani Nana: 1. MCGRATH 2. TARDELLI 3. GIRESSE 4. ROGER MILLA 5. AUGENTHALER 6. COLLOVATI 7. HOENESS 8. SANTILLANA 9. ALTOBELLI 10. GALLEGO

Brwned: 1. NEESKENS 2. HUGO SANCHEZ 3. VIERCHOWOD 4. ANTOGNONI 5. ARDILES 6. BETTEGA 7. KALTZ 8. TARANTINI 9. BUTCHER 10. FILLOL

Polaroid: 1. RUMMENIGGE 2. KEMPES 3. CEREZO 4. CEULEMANS 5. SCHUMACHER 6. CAMACHO 7. BONHOFF 8. SUSIC 9. BESSONOV 10. REINALDO

 

[Interval]

Jean Marie Pfaff

Spoiler

 

[Crustanoid]

You don't Pfaff about ey?

 

[Interval]

you don't pfaff about ey?

:d

 

[KM]

Btw in the newbies we're playing a draft in which every player is eligible but you can only have one person from one country in your team. Would you guys be interested in something like this after this game?

 

[antohan]

Btw in the newbies we're playing a draft in which every player is eligible but you can only have one person from one country in your team. Would you guys be interested in something like this after this game?

Why not? There was also the World Cup one...

 

[antohan]

Jean Marie Pfaff

Top keeper, sure would have gone for him next if I missed Dasayev.

 

[Crustanoid]

Good idea. I'd like to see one which pits teams from different eras against each other at some point too.

Such as

2 teams of players born 1955-59
2 born 1960-64
2 born 1965-69
2 born 1970-74

and so on....

Might be a complicated draft process, but it would offer something different to what we've done before

 

[antohan]

This was my analysis very early on. My team needs a defender with:

• Pace => check
• Good height and heading => check
• Reading of the game => check
• Composure => check
• Passing/distribution, both short and long to provide an outlet and build up play => check

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DARIO PEREYRA

Aged 17 he made his first team debut for Nacional as a midfield playmaker.

Aged 18 he made his debut for the national team.

Aged 19 he was captain for both club and country.

Aged 20 he was bought by Sao Paulo for what was then their all-time transfer record.

Him playing abroad put an end to his international career (until he was oddly picked as a reserve midfielder ten years later by a totally clueless and domestic league-centred manager).

There was trouble with paperwork so Real Madrid came calling to “rescue him”. He turned them down, the admin was sorted three months later, Sao Paulo won the Brazilian Championship for the first time in their history but injuries meant he was inconsistent for the first couple of years.

Aged 23, during an injury crisis, he was played at CB and he made the position his own. Oscar was bought to partner him and they formed the best CB partnership in the league.

Tele Santana, aware of his lack of international footie tried to convince him to change allegiance and play alongside Oscar for Brazil in 1982. A foreigner asked to play for Brazil, scandalous, but no one had an issue as it made sense. His explanation: “if he were Brazilian he would be the best defender in our history just behind Domingos da Guia”. Must have been undisputable, otherwise it would be poor man-management on Oscar! Pereyra declined the offer.

He won Placar Magazine’s “Bola de Prata” three times. Out of all the Brazilians picked so far only Zico won it more times (4).

Sao Paulo All Time XI, who are the CBs?

Globo 2008 (Pereyra and Oscar)

Placar 2009 (Pereyra and Lugano)

No World Cups, no Ballon d’Ors, but he had the virtue of mixing leadership, organizational skills, strength, speed and graft with the sort of football brain and technique that would be expected from a playmaker turned into a CB.

 

[antohan]

Good idea. I'd like to see one which pits teams from different eras against each other at some point too.

Such as

2 teams of players born 1955-59
2 born 1960-64
2 born 1965-69
2 born 1970-74

and so on....

Might be a complicated draft process, but it would offer something different to what we've done before

The draft would probably be quicker as those picking in each era would take turns rather than wait for those not picking from the same pool

Mind, I would get bored stiff if people start banging on about differences in conditioning, pitches, balls, etc.

 

[Crustanoid]

The draft would probably be quicker as those picking in each era would take turns rather than wait for those not picking from the same pool

Mind, I would get bored stiff if people start banging on about differences in conditioning, pitches, balls, etc.

We'd have to have a rule that says: all we're bothered about is the 90 minutes on the pitch - can those XI players, playing at their best beat the other XI players, regardless of all those details. I think it would be fun, and keeps in the spirit of these drafts by boiling it down to the strengths / weakness of the players

 

[Brwned]

 

[Cling Bak]

Good idea. I'd like to see one which pits teams from different eras against each other at some point too.

Such as

2 teams of players born 1955-59
2 born 1960-64
2 born 1965-69
2 born 1970-74

and so on....

Might be a complicated draft process, but it would offer something different to what we've done before

Or winners from 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's drafts in one a final tournament!

 

[Cling Bak]

Jayvin: 1/2

Duffy: 1

TDon69: 1/2

Gio:

antohan: 1/2

Interval Level: 1/2

Crustanoid: 1/2

Nani Nana:

Brwned:

Polaroid:

No offence, but option 1 is such a cop out! There's only 10 teams entering, so you're playing an entire group phase to get rid of 1 team from each group. I think voters will get a bit bored.

 

[Interval]

I may not win due to lack of household names, but I'm quite happy about my team.

Just need a solid left back

 

[Cling Bak]

I may not win due to lack of household names, but I'm quite happy about my team.

Just need a solid left back

Good team. I especially like your front six.

Got a left-back in mind?

 

[Cling Bak]

That midfield is going to take some beating, not to mention the addition of a right winger in an already impressive looking front line.

 

[Interval]

Good team. I especially like your front six.

Got a left-back in mind?

Yes. Solid. Not spectacular. But can defend.

The problem with my team is the reliance on Cueto and Pezzey. Both excellent players. Pezzey will sweep the defence and bring the ball out. And Cueto had excellent ball control skills and was a great creator. But they aren't the most known names.

 

[Brwned]

Going to start catching up on some of the players I know little of, can anyone suggest a Peru match that best showcased their talent? Likewise or Belgium, Austria etc. Basically if anyone can point me to some games of their lesser-known players I'll give 'em a watch.

I'm curious as to how your 523 would IL, it's certainly interesting to see two wing backs and two wingers line up together, and with two attacking centre mids (even though Breitner was a converted left back I could never see him holding). I'd consider sticking Passarella or Breitner at left back and bringing in another centre mid, personally.

 

[Cling Bak]

Yes. Solid. Not spectacular. But can defend.

The problem with my team is the reliance on Cueto and Pezzey. Both excellent players. Pezzey will sweep the defence and bring the ball out. And Cueto had excellent ball control skills and was a great creator. But they aren't the most known names.

Depends on the voters. There will be plenty of "lesser known" names on every team, such is the age of the players.

The team write-ups might be more important than ever this time.

Going to start catching up on some of the players I know little of, can anyone suggest a Peru match that best showcased their talent? Likewise or Belgium, Austria etc. Basically if anyone can point me to some games of their lesser-known players I'll give 'em a watch.

I love watching Belgium at '82 and '86. They impressively turned over Argentina in their opening game of Spain '82, but probably performed better in Mexico.

Their last 16 game against Soviets is a classic and must watch and they were good against Spain in the quarters, too (went through on pens).

 

[Brwned]

Gio picks Humberto Coelho.

 

[Jayvin]

Jayvin: 1. SCIREA 2. FERNANDEZ 3. HODDLE 4. FORSTER 5. EDER 6. KRANKL 7. PROHASKA 8. DEMYANENKO 9. MCGRAIN 10.

Duffy: 1. ROBBO 2. KEEGAN 3. BLOKHIN 4. CABRINI 5. ANCELOTTI 6. NEAL 7. BRIO 8. LAWRENSON 9. HOUSEMAN 10.

TDon69: 1. ZICO 2. TIGANA 3. TRESOR 4. DINAMITE 5. JUNIOR 6. BOCHINI 7. LEANDRO 8. ALDRIDGE 9. ZMUDA 10.

Gio: 1. PLATINI 2. SOUNESS 3. HANSEN 4. ELKJAER 5. REP 6. BRADY 7. CHA BUM KUN 8. PREUD'HOMME 9. BOSSIS 10. COELHO

antohan: 1. FALCAO 2. BONIEK 3. SCHUSTER 4. SIMONSEN 5. BRIEGEL 6. LERBY 7. GERETS 8. DASAYEV 9 . CHIVADZE 10. PEREYRA

Interval Level: 1. PASSARELLA 2. ROSSI 3. BREITNER 4. CONTI 5. DORNER 6. MIGUELI 7. LATO 8. CUETO 9. PEZZEY 10. PFAFF

Crustanoid: 1. SOCRATES 2. GENTILE 3. DALGLISH 4. STIELIKE 5. OSCAR 6. VALDANO 7. JUANITO 8. GORDILLO 9. BATTISTON 10. W. VAN DE KERKHOF

Nani Nana: 1. MCGRATH 2. TARDELLI 3. GIRESSE 4. ROGER MILLA 5. AUGENTHALER 6. COLLOVATI 7. HOENESS 8. SANTILLANA 9. ALTOBELLI 10. GALLEGO

Brwned: 1. NEESKENS 2. HUGO SANCHEZ 3. VIERCHOWOD 4. ANTOGNONI 5. ARDILES 6. BETTEGA 7. KALTZ 8. TARANTINI 9. BUTCHER 10. FILLOL

Polaroid: 1. RUMMENIGGE 2. KEMPES 3. CEREZO 4. CEULEMANS 5. SCHUMACHER 6. CAMACHO 7. BONHOFF 8. SUSIC 9. BESSONOV 10. REINALDO

 

[Interval]

Going to start catching up on some of the players I know little of, can anyone suggest a Peru match that best showcased their talent? Likewise or Belgium, Austria etc. Basically if anyone can point me to some games of their lesser-known players I'll give 'em a watch.

I'm curious as to how your 523 would IL, it's certainly interesting to see two wing backs and two wingers line up together, and with two attacking centre mids (even though Breitner was a converted left back I could never see him holding). I'd consider sticking Passarella or Breitner at left back and bringing in another centre mid, personally.

I considered sticking Breitner there. But he scored quite a few from midfield once he started playing there. I can see him do the 1-2 punch, but this time with Rossi.

As far as Cueto, he was called the poet with the left foot. Played around the center and the ball stuck to his feet. Exquisite vision and pass. you can see these glimpses.