Fair enough then, agree to disagree but I just feel like he didn't do that much wrong to warrant anything more than a standard ban for a red card. Like I said, players deliberately elbowing others or going in for bad studs up challenges is much worse then what Hazard did.
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He's the Swansea Directors son!...My god will the hilarity never, ever end with this one.
No way..Players expect an elbow to the face or a late challenge whilst they're on the pitch as it's part of the job but a ball boy doesn't expect a kicking for wasting a bit of time.
I didn't say he should wait longer before kicking him though? I said he shouldn't have been anywhere near the kid, there was no reason to go running over in the first place. If the kid had hold of the ball for 30 seconds then yeah he could have gone over and got it (not kicked him..) but that's a total different scenario.
So that is pretty much him off the hook.
Fair enough it looked like a genuine kick to the ribs.
what has the ball boy being 4 years younger than Hazard got to do with anything? It makes no fecking difference if he was 17 or 70. Hazard lost his temper and acted like a twat.According to the Mail & the Guardian, his dad is Martin Morgan, who owns 25% of Swansea as well as Morgan's Hotel, the only 5 star luxury hotel in Swansea. Meaning this...
Could also very well be true.
It's like unwrapping a really, really, funny, present.
I've more sympathy for Hazard than the ballboy
As I said all along. He kicked the ball, he was not trying to kick the ballboy (although the ballboy may have got a shin off it). A nothing incident - he was unlucky to be sent off.
So that is pretty much him off the hook.
Fair enough it looked like a genuine kick to the ribs.
If the kid wasn't rolling around on the floor imploring the ref then play would have swiftly resumed. Surprised the kid didn't wave an imaginary card like Benitez did earlier.
The keeper who is right next to it doesn't even react. The ref folded to crowd pressure and the little runt milking it.
"Shades of/as long a ban Cantona"
Fair play to the Chelsea lads.
Crazy though how gifs and stills can distort something so!
Crazy though how gifs and stills can distort something so!
Now Chelsea fans know how everyone felt watching Drogba all those years...
It's justice for the thuggery Ramires dishes out every single game anyway. He should have been off tonight.
It's justice for the thuggery Ramires dishes out every single game anyway. He should have been off tonight.
We booed Drogba for feigning injury/being a cnut and he largely cut it out of his game and left the club as a legend. Liverpool fans take note regarding one Luis Suarez.
I can't be bothered to get into another argument defending our players but whilst I agree that Ramires has been involved in some bad incidents recently I genuinely don't think he is a nasty, malovelent or thuggish player. It's not his character at all - committed, sometimes late, but not nasty.
Until last year's CL semi-final
Close up doesn't look like he's kicking the ball. He's kicking the kid to get him off the ball.
Irrelevant though. It's not a pick up game. There is actually a guy on the pitch to deal with this sort of thing.
I wouldn't have kicked him. I'd have gone straight to the ref and asked for more time.
It's more of a case of its not like hazard kicked a little child on purpose, which is much different. The ball boy was acting like a much bigger prick, and as you can see by the above gif hazard obviously went to kick the ball away.
Oh he pulled all the old tricks out for that one, granted. And the Napoli game before, but that was a case of "any means necessary". And frankly against Barca I'd say it's completely justified as they are the kings, the Italians aren't bad either.Until last year's CL semi-final
Most other fans hated Drogba at first but over time developed a grudging respect for him and actually speak quite highly of him now, a lot of it was due to cutting out the histrionics at the beginning of his Chelsea career where he was roundly booed for it.
So that is pretty much him off the hook.
Fair enough it looked like a genuine kick to the ribs.
@ trying to make it all about: "Did he make contact with the ball or not?!" We're not talking about a keeper who reached with hand to push the ball off the foot of the attacker! We're talking about a player being in a place where he shouldn't be, getting in physical contact with somebody outside the field, and trying to get the ball off a kid by kicking him when he's lying on the ball..Just look at this gif again (which is not a still picture, and is much closer than the other gif):
You just can't do that. It's laughable actually to think that he shouldn't get at least 3 games ban.
Ball boys usually time waste where necessary and although this one took a little too far it's no excuse for someone to kick him out of frustration.
As long as he is back before the city game, I don't care!!
I'm not saying that he was right to kick the kid (although putting myself in his boots I would have probably tried kicking the ball away as well), I'm just saying that he shouldn't get any sort of large ban, which would be incredibly harsh and would be taking this nothing incident too far.
Hazard's an idiot. Kicking him was the worst move. A push is just as effective and people would care far less. It would just be funny if the ball boy was being a twat and Hazard gave him a shove but you cannot kick out at some kid, no matter what. Just ridiculous.
That one is bollocks, cos you can't see the ball so it looks like he's kicking him in the ribs and that the ball is on the other side from where he makes contact with, the other one you can clearly see that he just dinks the ball out from underneath him from a kid who is smothering it trying to be obstructive and waste time.
Just look at this gif again (which is not a still picture, and is much closer than the other gif):
You just can't do that. It's laughable actually to think that he shouldn't get at least 3 games ban.
What if you knew for a fact that the kid was a young Adolf Hitler? Would it be justified to go back in time and kick him?
It was just the way you'd worded it. As if him waiting 2 seconds would've made the difference. And 8 seconds is such a specific time.
I've no sympathy for either but the ball boy was being a ball bag. No kid should be that cocky.
Well, Hazard is trying to reach the ball on the other side of the kid. He can't get it. Then kicks him on the side where the ball is not at all visible.
So, it does indeed appear he kicked him to get him off the ball, rather than kicking the ball to get it out from under him.
Seems not even debatable from the video and gif.
I love Duffer's reaction to this. TheRisingSun doesn't quite have the same leveled head...
Same. A lot more.
Hazard tries (and somewhat succeeds) to kick the ball, not primarily the man. That's quite obvious from the clips and common sense.
My sentiments entirely. From the side view you can see he is looking for the ball, gets a glimpse and dinks it out from underneath him, even then the kid is trying to roll over onto the ball again.
Given that their keeper was just 5 yards from it, wouldn't he have gone absolutely ballistic if he'd seen Hazard volley him in the ribs?
He can't even see the ball when he kicked him FFS. How on earth would you think that's acceptable?!
And the bolded bit makes absolutely no difference.
Hazard trains since 6 years old to be pro footballer, faggott/waster/twitter gloater/self proclaiming chav ball boy milks the life out of hazard kicking ball from under him and potentially gets him banned for months.
Can't believe he kicked him before 9 seconds, ban evra!
Serves that little twat right.
Yes, Hazard is in the wrong, butI can understand his frustration and its still very funny.
I hope the red card is the end of the matter.
Nothing else here.
I would've thought that, but really nothing actually happened. Feel bad saying it, but I keep thinking if Hazard is going to get banned then he should've at least been banned for doing something a bit more substantial to the little scrote.
There is no way the ballboy was in any pain whatsoever, and a quick look at the shots of him pretending to be hurt clear away any doubt about that.Hey mate, I am with you. Totally. However if you were going to defend yourself (putting you in this situation) you would site that gif and say "Sir I only tried to get the ball out from underneath him. Nothing more."
Just look at this gif again (which is not a still picture, and is much closer than the other gif):
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You just can't do that. It's laughable actually to think that he shouldn't get at least 3 games ban
I honestly don't think a grown senior football player would genuinely kick a ball-boy out of spite or malice or anything other than stupidly trying to get the ball out from under him.
When I said 'off the hook' I meant from lengthy serious punishment. 3 game ban for the red at least for sure.. Any more than that is up to the FA's discretion.
Yup, he should have done a cantona on that kid. Whole thing is overblown and just read that hazard apologized over it.I would've thought that, but really nothing actually happened. Feel bad saying it, but I keep thinking if Hazard is going to get banned then he should've at least been banned for doing something a bit more substantial to the little scrote.
Right, he should have dropkicked a child for being pushed over on a football and then laying on top of it as his club was 10 minutes away from their first ever Cup final.
Do one you spastic idiot.
Do one you spastic idiot.
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic and the kid was NOT pushed over, watch the whole thing again. He collapsed on top of the ball to smother it so that Hazard couldn't get it. The kid knew exactly what he was doing throughout and played a blinder so let's please get away from any notion of an innocent wronged child.
An elbow drop would have been just fine.