Why? In a 4-2-3-1 there's no 2nd striker in the box and teams score, why do I need two of them all the time when no one else does? And there's Effenberg making runs, Scholl and Kroos available around the box as well.
And I won't create anything down the wing? Because Alaba and Hummels aren't a weak link but Reuter + Kohler are?
The fundamental question is, who's on Zidane then? Not Sammer if he is sweeping behind the CBs.
It's you only who wrote Muller would get into goalscoring positions in the game trying to take advantage of Klinsi taking out the CBs, so that only means that he's not out wide proving width.
I guess the difference there is you don't have a winger.
Sorry, just have to.
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Please guys, Balu will get an ulcer
Pff, come on. You ruined my cool entrance by pissing on the slogan I've worked on for almost a month.
Sorry, just have to.
I forgot about that for the first page, I added a spoiler for the video. But I don't mind if we don't use them from here on now. Did we have a rule for that?
And both situations pose problems for you in other parts of the pitch, no?
Seriously guys. One says, Müller is always out wide, so I don't have him scoring goals, the other says, he's not out wide, so I'm not a threat on the wing? Have you watched him play? If I attack down the left or through the middle, he will move into central positions. If I attack down the right, he will connect on the right with Reuter or try to run behind Alaba. He's doing exactly that all his career.
That was how United conceded against Pedro and Villa. We failed to track Barca's wide forwards making diagonal runs behind/coming into the centre
Nevertheless, he can only be in one place at any one time, you can surround Zidane with defenders and yet not keep him quiet. Leave one pocket of space to Zidane and he can punish you in the blink of an eye
I distrust Assistant Managers in this now, in the next one I am flying solo, I got hung out to dry by KM.
Sorry, just have to.
Why? I really don't understand that? He needs to commit his players in defense as well? It's not like his attacking players can wait upfront and the ball magically appears in their foot when all my players are upfront.
No official rule for that.
In the last draft. My bad, I didn't follow it either I think (although it was strictly first page so fine from here on).
I've lost track of much of the argument at this point. You are right people don't doggedly follow a man to the end of the earth unless instructed to. I'm still concerned though about the whole Sammer thing (which is effectively what was behind the 4-3-3 statement Pol made, which I also assumed was correct). So you don't have a man on Zidane specifically? He's left to joint team effort subject to where he goes? It's plausible, but very ballsy if you ask me.
Not really and that is not because of the formation, if you want to implement that you would need to make a case for dominating possession and having most of the ball in the game which I don't see happening against his midfield. Playing on the counter, this setup is better but unless you concede width almost completely you will be exposed quite a lot, and without which you would not be able to counter as well as you want to.
The whole 532 or 433 part was a bit confusing by me, I agree with that. However, it's not like Sammer does need to make decisions all the time. He has Kohler and Buchwald in defense behind him, those are hardly mugs who can't deal with a lone striker, even if it's Eto'o. Sammer is free to help out whereever he needs to be and I clearly stated that he will mainly help to contain Zidane. That's not necessarily a man marking job that sees him dragged all over the pitch, but he's there, no doubt.
Hey that's unfair. I told you I'm working fifteen hour shifts here
This. Which was why I said my midfield unit has slightly better balance.
The draft though man.Hey that's unfair. I told you I'm working fifteen hour shifts here
I disagree, especially against his team. It's also weird, that you say I'm easily conceding possession. My midfield is full of players who are strong on the ball and it's not that easy to win the ball back with Sammer, Effenberg, Kroos and Scholl there. I don't mind him having a bit more of the ball, but I don't feel significantly dominated here at all, that's clearly over the top. If it was a 100% counterattacking setup, yes, then I needed Frings more than Kroos, but then I would look rather toothless in possession. Here I can see me causing him all sorts of problems in possession. It sounds like I'm outnumbered in the middle and can't create shit through the wings despite him not having two strong defensive fullbacks at all, Alaba certainly isn't one. That makes no sense, not the slightest.
Not sure really, it sounds to me like both posts were saying you lacked that consistent threat on the flanks - not at all surprising because you don't have wingers and he does. You have the tougher defence though of course with the extra man.
Seriously guys. One says, Müller is always out wide, so I don't have him scoring goals, the other says, he's not out wide, so I'm not a threat on the wing? Have you watched him play? If I attack down the left or through the middle, he will move into central positions. If I attack down the right, he will connect on the right with Reuter or try to run behind Alaba. He's doing exactly that all his career.
Million dollar question that
You make a fair point. I'm sorry!
Forgiven, we'll pick ourselves up turn our attentions to the next one, we were unlucky.
Well we would need to disagree there. All your players are good on the ball - and it would sound terribly cliched but I need to give credit where it's due - Zizou and Redondo would dominate the strongest of midfields in possession, and I don't doubt that for a second. Again, that sounds terribly boring because it looks like I am looking at big names but more than the names it is the specific ability of both of them to control the game like very, very few others. Redondo all by himself absolutely schooled Keane and Scholes - a treble winning midfield duo - in that 2000 CL game. I won't pretend I'm not getting a bit romantic here but it's easy to do so with a player like Redondo and that is what makes him so great, that he not only has the ability to shield the defense brilliantly but also the ability to dictate everything that goes on in the game.
No way did we deserved to lose by such a big margin. Most of the footie fans are too pretentious these days.
Thanks Balu, so it is Kohler and Buchwald behind Sammer and Sammer is mainly on Zidane
Well, yeah, I've said that from the start. If I'm loosing the game because Ziege with Buchwald helping out and Kohler covering Eto'o isn't good enough to defend, then so be it. That's hardly a weak defensive setup for me. It's also not Sammer alone on Zidane with all my other players watching you score. Again, that's not how football works.
