Luis Suarez - Barcelona Player

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The Echo or the Times (can't remember which) said a few days ago that the players we have brought in so far were coming in even if Suarez decided to stay. Barrett said last night he expects us to spend over £100m too.
The same thing was said about Ronaldo when he left for £80m and likewise Bale last summer. It isn't that easy. You can quite foreseeably reinvest it on two £30-40m players but then comes the agent fees, singing on fee and having to pay two lots of wages. I don't think you'll get an out and out replacement for Suarez in this window. Sometimes spending £100m can create more problems than it solves i.e. Spurs.
 

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Suarez was off before the World Cup. Rodgers and the club would have known that. It wouldn't have crossed their mind of having these players in the same squad as Suarez. It would have been similar to Ronaldo with it being agreed the season before if the players goes on to do their best in their last season.
 

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Which definitely needs to happen with the extra games due to Europe.

Do you feel that you could end up in a situation like Tottenham and Bale, in that they got good money, but bought a lot of players that were not able to gel in their first season?
I don't think so. In Tottenham's case they had Baldini buying players for the manager and there were disagreements between the two. AvB apparently didn't want some of the players Spurs purchased. Rodgers is also a better manager than AvB (at least in the PL) and I think last season will have lifted our squad's belief and will have them believing they can genuinely challenge.
 

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I'd rather not listen to the likes of Barett or Echo. It's clear they're being fed information by Liverpool's PR themselves. Most of them were convinced that Liverpool will not hear bids besides the release clause. The reality was something else.
 

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I'd rather not listen to the likes of Barett or Echo. It's clear they're being fed information by Liverpool's PR themselves. Most of them were convinced that Liverpool will not hear bids besides the release clause. The reality was something else.
Do you listen to Ogden and Ducker? What was Luke Shaw's fee?
 

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Do you listen to Ogden and Ducker? What was Luke Shaw's fee?
Anywhere between 27 and 30m.

They're not United fans and criticise the club loads of times. Barrett and Liverpool Echo are hilarious in that respect, spoon feeding the information Liverpool gives to the supporters, hence why the Liverpool fans were so deluded about the fact that Suarez wasn't going to leave this summer or it'll take a "world class fee" for him to leave.
 

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Anywhere between 27 and 30m.

They're not United fans and criticise the club loads of times. Barrett and Liverpool Echo are hilarious in that respect, spoon feeding the information Liverpool gives to the supporters, hence why the Liverpool fans were so deluded about the fact that Suarez wasn't going to leave this summer or it'll take a "world class fee" for him to leave.
Barrett and Pearce do criticise Liverpool. Barrett in particular.
 

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Anywhere between 27 and 30m.

They're not United fans and criticise the club loads of times. Barrett and Liverpool Echo are hilarious in that respect, spoon feeding the information Liverpool gives to the supporters, hence why the Liverpool fans were so deluded about the fact that Suarez wasn't going to leave this summer or it'll take a "world class fee" for him to leave.
You obviously don't follow what they say regularly. Pearce and Barrett have been frequent guests on LFC TV, they have often been critical of the club, possibly less so since Rodgers arrival.
 

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No. SSN 64.3m.
To be fair SKY changed their minds several times yesterday, Jim White said £64m then later on he or someone else said £75m.

The likes of ECHO journalists say the latter.
 

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But, but Barrett. The non-biased Journalist has said its 75m pounds.
BBC, The Guardian, The Times and the Telegraph all say £75m, it doesn't get much more reliable than that. Barrett is by far the best journalist for LFC related information.
 

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BBC, The Guardian, The Times and the Telegraph, it doesn't get much more reliable than that. Barrett is by far the best journalist for LFC related information.


That was by Tony "Reliable" Barrett.
 

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BBC, The Guardian, The Times and the Telegraph, it doesn't get much more reliable than that. Barrett is by far the best journalist for LFC related information.
I wouldn't bother mate, the Beano & Dandy could say £60m and people would believe it.
 

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I wouldn't bother mate, the Beano & Dandy could say £60m and people would believe it.
On another note, the Sun could say £80m and liverpool fans would believe it.
 

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Example of fan believing whatever suits their agenda. Barcelona have clearly briefed that the fees will 64m and Liverpool have briefed that the fees will be 75m. Won't be surprised if the fees is somewhere between.
 

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You don't read his articles, do you?
I probably don't need too. Most of you guys opinion about Suarez was similar to his articles. "He won't leave", "The club will seek a world class fee" etc etc
 

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Example of fan believing whatever suits their agenda. Barcelona have clearly briefed that the fees will 64m and Liverpool have briefed that the fees will be 75m. Won't be surprised if the fees is somewhere between.
It's not really. You look at the sources and you make a judgement based on who is reporting it. You've said you don't trust and think he's biased Barrett - fair enough. Are the BBC, The Guardian and the Telegraph all biased too?
 

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It's not really. You look at the sources and you make a judgement based on who is reporting it. You've said you don't trust and think he's biased Barrett - fair enough. Are the BBC, The Guardian and the Telegraph all biased too?
No they're not biased but I think they're briefed by Liverpool. Just like the Spanish Media who's quoting 64m is briefed by Barcelona.
 

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Sorry, couldn't think of a more unreliable newspaper in terms of news and forgot the obvious connection.
ok, no problem. I kind of started it with my comic reference.
 

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The price doesn't matter. Nor does Liverpool reinvesting the money.

Firstly, Rodger's transfer exploits so far show that he's not the best in the market, with or without substantial money.

Secondly, as Alexis Sanchez move to Arsenal has shown, not many world class players consider them a club worth joining. Being champions a quarter of a decade ago and a random Champions League win nine years ago doesn't mean a thing

Finally, Suarez is a world class player. They'll have to replace him with some one that can produce the goods as he did OR at least inspire the squad to up their game like he did.

As they are finding out, with our without that massive cheque coming in from Barcelona, whether it's 65m or 85m, they'll not be able to replace the player that took them to second in the league last year.

Happy days.
 

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The price doesn't matter. Nor does Liverpool reinvesting the money.

Firstly, Rodger's transfer exploits so far show that he's not the best in the market, with or without substantial money.

Secondly, as Alexis Sanchez move to Arsenal has shown, not many world class players consider them a club worth joining. Being champions a quarter of a decade ago and a random Champions League win nine years ago doesn't mean a thing

Finally, Suarez is a world class player. They'll have to replace him with some one that can produce the goods as he did OR at least inspire the squad to up their game like he did.

As they are finding out, with our without that massive cheque coming in from Barcelona, whether it's 65m or 85m, they'll not be able to replace the player that took them to second in the league last year.
Like most managers he has made some mistakes in the transfer market.
We know he can't be replaced by an individual - the current players plus any new signings need to step up.
However, personally I am still excited by the squad we are developing.

Sanchez, good player and makes Arsenal stronger. Maybe his family wanted a London base, after all we finished above them in the league last season and many of their fans have been fed up with the lack of trophies in recent times.
 

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Squabbling over a £10m discrepancy in the fee, who gives a feck?

Liverpool's only star player is gone. He won't be replaced with anyone approaching the same quality. So far their transfer strategy seems to be the classic Liverpool strategy of throwing a lot of shit at a wall and hoping some of it sticks.

With that in mind, does the £10m really matter? If the rumours are true, they'll probably spend twice that on Bony.
 

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Yeah, re the fee, it seems pretty obvious that different media outlets are being fed different stories. Since it's an undisclosed fee, they have no way of knowing for sure what it is. Most state 'a reported 64M fee' or 'about 75M', it seems pretty obvious that no one knows for sure. And to be fair, it's possible that neither are actually lying, given that the structure for such an agreement must be extremely complicated and based on loads of different factors that could make the price fluctuate one way or the other. I agree with the poster that says that the 'real' fee is probably somewhere in between the two reported figures, it would actually make sense (as both parties would be inflating for Liv or downplaying for Barça depending on performance related clauses and other factors).

I don't actually care about the fee itself, even if it's 64M I think that's ridiculous money for him, but I just found it funny compared to Barney's stance on the matter throughout this saga.
Not a pleasant sending off for Suarez. Don't think Marca will go easy on hime in Spain either.

The most shocking part on that back page is that they announce "brilliant analysis" by Redknapp and Keown.
 

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Lawrenson, Thompson and other pundits are comforting themselves they'll be all right without Suarez. Well, at least they have Lambert and Origi.
 

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good to see him leave the premier league. Weakens Liverpool and we don't have to put up with his behavior anymore.
 

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I'd love to have been there to see the look on Gerrard's face when he heard the news Suarez was leaving Liverpool.
 

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I wish he had stayed for another season or so, when we do the double over Liverpool this season I would have preferred Suarez to have been in the team so as they dont use it as an excuse. Also I dont believe that Liverpool will give Rodgers the 75m to buy new players on top of the players hes already purchased. Maybe half that amount to buy two new strikers.
I'd love to have been there to see the look on Gerrard's face when he heard the news Suarez was leaving Liverpool.
I second that, I would watch as he cried then before I leave the room id run up to the camera and give it a big kiss and send him a copy of it