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Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG
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Di Maria's angel 
"According to the Mirror", pretty much guarantees its dodgy.
If we could get an extra 3M for that, there's probably no reason why we couldn't just hardball and ask for 50M. They'd have paid up for sure.
Wooo adios you lily-livered twat. We're going to be so much better off without him, can't wait.
Just want fuel more anger.
He's the biggest disgrace to our number 7 shirt, that's for sure.
Thanks for helping us back to the champions league
Valencia
Owen
I'm not sure if you're saying my post was childish or it was a result of the childishness already posted, but it's Human nature for the narrative to change as it has. Previously, he was a weaselly little fecker, but he was our weaselly little fecker. We focused on his positives and ignored his obvious weaselly flaws, now the roles are rightfully reversed with the forum unhappy with his weaselly little ways before/during/upon leaving the club.
He was deemed not good enough for us (so much so we were willing to lose our record signing, after a season, for a huge loss) so he can't then justifiably be used as an example of why another club is so much better than us when they sign him.
The weaselly little fecker.
I know and I disagree. Valencia gave us decent service overall in his tenure at the club and fought through it and Owen, he was a massive question mark when signing for us. di Maria was signed for a world record fee, started of well, couldn't fight his way back, instead sucked completely and is now leaving after just one season. To me, that's worse than anything Valencia and Owen have done.
Both wanted to be here and gave their all for the club. While infinitely less talented (Owen not being in his prime) than Di Maria, they gave far more.
It's a sad end for both Di Maria and United here. United could still use a player of his qualities, Di Maria could have elevated himself to a superstar here, rather then a second banana. It's not incredibly surprising though, as the writing was on Di Maria's 'letter' to Real Madrid fans at the very beginning of the season. He didn't want to leave Madrid, he was forced out.
The bottom line is, he was never comfortable to be in Manchester in the first place. His family wasn't comfortable moving here, and he didn't have a burning professional desire to be here either. I have great respect for family, and I can understand if moving from Madrid to Manchester could be a huge culture shock to a Latin family. But ultimately, if Angel Di Maria believed that moving to United would be the next big step in his career and 'HAD' to be done, I think his family would have supported him. I believe they didn't because he himself was not comfortable in Manchester.
It seems clear to me, from both the letter Di Maria wrote to Real Madrid fans, and the media speculation that his ideal landing place was Paris, that he was hoping for a move to PSG. There is nothing wrong with that, PSG has become a massive club with a big future. I can understand Di Maria and his family would feel more comfortable in an environment that is a lot more similar to that of Latin America and Madrid, but I wish he had fought a little harder to make it here, both on and off the field. In the end, though I don't think that was his intention at all, I feel Di Maria used United to get a move to PSG and net Real Madrid a big payday in the process. He wanted the money, the glamour, the status of a superstar and he'd hoped PSG would give that to him, but they couldn't last year, so he took United instead, who could offer that. Unfortunately he was never prepared to fight for that.
So now what? I said the moment United signed Di Maria we overpaid a boatload. We did. But now, people are saying he's a scrub with no backbone, which is also untrue. Di Maria is a talented player, but he is never a primary superstar. He doesn't, and never has scored enough goals, he doesn't have the mentality, the ego, to dominate a team and make it his. He is and will remain a secondary player in my opinion, but a brilliant one at that. That's why he worked so well at Real with a personality like Ronaldo there, and I think he will work at PSG with Ibra as well. We will sell him at a loss while getting little from him during the season, and I believe, he will do very well for PSG. Our loss, but who is blame?
So who do we blame? Angel Di Maria? Louis van Gaal? Ed Woodward? Probably a bit of everyone, sure. Di Maria should have had a bit more 'backbone' as some people have said, some professional pride that will make you do good by the club who believed in you. LvG though should have recognized that Di Maria would not have worked as well at United as he did at Real. That Di Maria was a fantastic addition as a secondary player, not a primary player, but maybe even more importantly, recognizing what position he would be successful in. He never found that spot for him, in in truth, made things even more difficult for Di Maria then necessary on the field. Then Ed Woodward. I feel he just wanted a marquee signing with no regard for whether it fit the team in any way, because he hasn't got a clue about football. It's Ed I'm most critical of because a football man would have seen immediately, Di Maria's obvious discomfort at joining United, would have figured the move would not end well, because in the end, Di Maria never really wanted to be here. It's Ed Woowards job to (as well as LvG) to make these kind of decisions. They failed.
I think Di Maria made a huge mistake in joining United, where he and his family were not comfortable to be. But more damningly, LvG and Woodward failed to recognize this. Di Maria is an amazing player (though not worth what we paid him) but ultimately, a secondary player, while we were looking for a primary superstar.
The bottom line is, he was never comfortable to be in Manchester in the first place. His family wasn't comfortable moving here, and he didn't have a burning professional desire to be here either. I have great respect for family, and I can understand if moving from Madrid to Manchester could be a huge culture shock to a Latin family. But ultimately, if Angel Di Maria believed that moving to United would be the next big step in his career and 'HAD' to be done, I think his family would have supported him. I believe they didn't because he himself was not comfortable in Manchester.
It seems clear to me, from both the letter Di Maria wrote to Real Madrid fans, and the media speculation that his ideal landing place was Paris, that he was hoping for a move to PSG. There is nothing wrong with that, PSG has become a massive club with a big future. I can understand Di Maria and his family would feel more comfortable in an environment that is a lot more similar to that of Latin America and Madrid, but I wish he had fought a little harder to make it here, both on and off the field. In the end, though I don't think that was his intention at all, I feel Di Maria used United to get a move to PSG and net Real Madrid a big payday in the process. He wanted the money, the glamour, the status of a superstar and he'd hoped PSG would give that to him, but they couldn't last year, so he took United instead, who could offer that. Unfortunately he was never prepared to fight for that.
So now what? I said the moment United signed Di Maria we overpaid a boatload. We did. But now, people are saying he's a scrub with no backbone, which is also untrue. Di Maria is a talented player, but he is never a primary superstar. He doesn't, and never has scored enough goals, he doesn't have the mentality, the ego, to dominate a team and make it his. He is and will remain a secondary player in my opinion, but a brilliant one at that. That's why he worked so well at Real with a personality like Ronaldo there, and I think he will work at PSG with Ibra as well. We will sell him at a loss while getting little from him during the season, and I believe, he will do very well for PSG. Our loss, but who is blame?
So who do we blame? Angel Di Maria? Louis van Gaal? Ed Woodward? Probably a bit of everyone, sure. Di Maria should have had a bit more 'backbone' as some people have said, some professional pride that will make you do good by the club who believed in you. LvG though should have recognized that Di Maria would not have worked as well at United as he did at Real. That Di Maria was a fantastic addition as a secondary player, not a primary player, but maybe even more importantly, recognizing what position he would be successful in. He never found that spot for him, in in truth, made things even more difficult for Di Maria then necessary on the field. Then Ed Woodward. I feel he just wanted a marquee signing with no regard for whether it fit the team in any way, because he hasn't got a clue about football. It's Ed I'm most critical of because a football man would have seen immediately, Di Maria's obvious discomfort at joining United, would have figured the move would not end well, because in the end, Di Maria never really wanted to be here. It's Ed Woowards job to (as well as LvG) to make these kind of decisions. They failed.
I think Di Maria made a huge mistake in joining United, where he and his family were not comfortable to be. But more damningly, LvG and Woodward failed to recognize this. Di Maria is an amazing player (though not worth what we paid him) but ultimately, a secondary player, while we were looking for a primary superstar.
By who? When? and what HUGE loss? This is a Bikram yoga stretch or do you actually believe it?
Wanting to be here and being good in other seasons means absolutely nothing in this context, Di Maria ( in a terrible season) was better than Tony V in the season he wore #7 and Owen in his whole United career.
By our manager, who- and I know this might surprise you somewhat- knows a great deal more about football/our players than you do. Oh, and the huge loss being about £10-15 million or so (more if it's correct that Real Madrid will get £8 million of it)after ONE season.
Hang on, why should anyone else shoulder even a portion of the blame when Di Maria himself looked half arsed for more than half of the season? I don't get it, you ought to've pride in your work whether you're doing it for yourself, getting paid peanuts or like ADM earning astronomical wages. It's also very self gratifying. Perhaps I'm on a different wavelength. Or something.
The Di Maria of last season? That played with United? You stopped watching in October I assume?
And wanting to be here and giving your all does mean something. It means something to fans watching you play if you look like you want to win and want the club to do well.
Ok man,ok.
Absolutely. How some people don't understand that is beyond me.
I'll take that as you sheepishly withdrawing but trying to save face, then.
It does to me personally. Di Maria is soft, not fighting for his place in the squad, not trying to be the leader of one of the world's biggest clubs, not trying to adapt to the physicality of the BPL. After one tough season, he bails.
As I said, Tony and Owen were possibly worse while wearing the shirt, but they were no where near as much of a joke overall while playing for us.
I like how he said "What I know about PSG...". Clear indication that he is clueless.
No, it is me not trying to not waste my time arguing with someone who has convinced himself that United are discarding Di Maria, i mean are we making up scenarios now?
Come on. Lets stop debating the same one thing every few hours.
If true we'll add that to the De Gea fee, never heard of the clause before though.Madrid gets 8 million for the sale of Di MaríaTweet
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Still doesn't mean those players were better #7's.
We're lucky that these feckers are obsessed with Di Maria. No other club would have paid more than €40-45m for him after the season he's had here.
The statement was "Biggest disgrace to the #7 shirt"
i seriously doubt a sell on clause was added when the fee itself was so ridiculously high to begin with
It would seem that way, yeah. You're being quite uncreative with it though.
You might have had an argument had we not dropped him for most of the season. You do remember that? We are absolutely discarding Di Maria, he wouldn't be leaving after a season otherwise.
Have you created a scenario in your head in which he had a great season as a regular starter?
Yes, and my argument was that those players also brought a lot of shame to that #7 jersey.
Good post @Pentagruel
Not only that, you're playing in the PL for christ sake. Prestigious matches against City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool with the huge media attention behind it. How can you not want to be a part of that or at least try to do your best when you're a professional footballer?
Too tired to perform a medical huh? That's some commitment for the new employer! As the saying goes; Form is temporary, class is permanent. Both of which he is lacking at the moment.
Nah. They weren't good enough and shouldn't have been given the jersey, but neither brought shame to it. Both gave everything and both gave far more to Man United than Di Maria has. Neither were a disgrace to the number or to the United jersey.
If Di Maria is calculating enough he should blame this all on LVG and say he loved the club and fans but slate Van Gaal. Most of our fans would lap it up.
1.We dropped him for the second half of the season, he was the first person on the team sheet in the first half of the season, up until that game against Arsenal in March.
2.We are not discarding Di Maria, he is leaving us for his preferred option, it is really that simple - nothing to cry about, clubs treat players like that all the time, we did however discard the likes of RVP,Rafael,Anderson and co.
3.I have NEVER acknowledged the season Di Maria had with us as a good season, talk less of a great one, and i never called him a regular starter... he was average,sometimes disappointing but he still managed to rack up 13 assists and 4 goals which helped us get CL football.
4. Di Maria was very much in our plans for next season before the reports about his move to PSG started gathering steam so i don't know what you're on about.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/angel-di-maria-2014-15-performances.395692/page-174#post-17306037
That is you in March ^
Hope this settles everything, if it doesn't then good luck with your "United is discarding Di Maria" theory.
Di Maria's Angel
Fair enough man, i agree with your point about giving your all, also think he should have tried harder.
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