Guardiola confirmed to City... what does this mean for us?

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Their squad from wiki page

GK Joe Hart 28
GK Willy Caballero 34
GK Richard Wright 38

CB Vincent Kompany 29
CB Eliaquim Mangala 24
DF Nicolás Otamendi 27
CB Martín Demichelis 35
DF Jason Denayer 20

RB Bacary Sagna 32
RB Pablo Zabaleta 31

LB Aleksandar Kolarov 30
LB Gaël Clichy 30

DM Fernando 28
CM Yaya Touré 32
CM Fernandinho 30
CM Fabian Delph 26
CM Bruno Zuculini 22

RW Jesús Navas 30
RW Raheem Sterling 21
MF Patrick Roberts 18

AM Kevin De Bruyne 24
AM David Silva 30
AM Samir Nasri 28

FW Sergio Agüero 27
FW Wilfried Bony 27
FW Kelechi Iheanacho 19

Will Guardiola adjust to the team or adjust the team to his philosophy? They forward line is balanced but I don't think they have the midfield, defense and keeper to play the possession game. Also, except fbs, the gap in quality between the first 11 and their back-up is big.

They'll need to invest in at least 4 first team players very soon at CM and FB, which could be a positive the new man though.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

The same supporters that whinge and moan and criticise everything the club does? The same ones that haven't a shred of patience? If they are the ones you are referring to then yes, how awful of them. So too the immature spoilt brats that don't remember anything at this club before 1995. Nothing wrong with wanting a good manager at the club but they way folks have gone on and on and on about Pep has simply being nauseating.

I'd say a lot of people do remember the old days actually and that is what they are worried about. History is repeating itself.

 

[Rory 7]

I'd say a lot of people do remember the old days actually and that is what they are worried about. History is repeating itself.

History won't repeat itself.

 

[Nikhil]

We are just not showing ambition anymore. Giggs should not be the next manager even on a temporary basis.

We must strengthen the first team. John Stones would be a good addition to the defence. We would do well to go all out for him in the summer.

Pellegrini would be a great manager for us. Would we go for an ex City manager?

 

[Mr Pigeon]

feckfeckfeckfeckitfeckitfeckingfeckitfeck.

feck.

Unless by some incredible bad luck Pep fails in the Premier League, the only way we're going to compete in the league is if we have a complete overhaul of the footballing side of the club. It's all well and good having all of this money allegedly available but right now we'll just spend it on Monster Munch and Pot Noodles while City and Chelsea are buying fillet steaks.

 

[Cheesy]

The same supporters that whinge and moan and criticise everything the club does? The same ones that haven't a shred of patience? If they are the ones you are referring to then yes, how awful of them. So too the immature spoilt brats that don't remember anything at this club before 1995. Nothing wrong with wanting a good manager at the club but they way folks have gone on and on and on about Pep has simply being nauseating.

Hardly. Just because you don't like the idea of the club appointing someone with actual managerial credentials, and fans supporting this sensible notion, doesn't make it so. It's a bit tiring to see some posters act so high and mighty on this matter, as if their willingness to accept mediocrity and call it "patience" makes them superior to others. I'm perfectly fine with others wanting Giggs to be manager...even though I think it's a ridiculous idea. I don't think I'm somehow better and more enlightened than those who want him.

 

[Red Devil 26]

From a purely footballing perspective, it would definitely have been fascinating to see what he could have done with us. However, if Mourinho wants us as much as being reported, would be nice to have someone who has reverence for the club, in addition to a killer CV, rather than solely the latter. Really hope we go all out to get him.

 

[entropy]

You one of those people who thought Moyes was a great appointment too because Fergie said?

Fergie thought Moyes was an ideal successor. The man is a legendary manager, but that doesn't mean he necessarily knows how to choose a manager.

Move on guys, stop beating the dead corpse of Moyes appointment. Even fergie did, in his new book.

 

[Blodssvik]

I'm not worried. If they manage to raise the bar with him it will push us to be better. Even if he fails I think it will have a positive impact on us.

 

[Gambit]

It means nothing for us.

 

[Cheesy]

Move on guys, stop beating the dead corpse of Moyes appointment. Even fergie did, in his new book.

Why? Because it partly discredits your argument?

 

[Attila]

Move on guys, stop beating the dead corpse of Moyes appointment. Even fergie did, in his new book.

Haha yeah ignore everything that goes against hiring Giggs

 

[Inigo Montoya]

I'm not worried. If they manage to raise the bar with him it will push us to be better. Even if he fails I think it will have a positive impact on us.

Point is; how can anyone fail with their budget for players? He can fail in Europe but domestically? No chance

 

[vidic blood & sand]

So could I, if given that chance. I think Giggs has "only" managed four more games than me as well.

He deserves a shot.

 

[VeevaVee]

I never really got the impression that Pep fancied us. I don't think he was interested, really.
Maybe the job is too big for him. At City, everything is pretty much ready and waiting. Yes, he will bring in players which he likes and tweak their playing style.

If that's the case, then he isn't the manager for us. We need someone who has the personality to make this club great again! I don't think that's Pep.

Everything is setup for success at City whereas here there is a huge struggle on anybody's hands.

 

[JPRouve]

He deserves a shot.

No, he doesn't. We can give a him a shot but he doesn't deserve it.

 

[littlepeasoup]

The board is sh*t-scared of giving Mourinho the job; probably the best reason why it's such an excellent idea.

 

[sullydnl]

We're not likely to get near City as is so what does it matter if they finish even further ahead of us under Pep?

We have to get our own house in order first, regardless of who the other teams have managing them. All the Pep appointment does is illustrate the fact that City are generally a more attractive proposition than us atm.

 

[Cina]

He deserves a shot.

Only if you're a sentimental eejit.

 

[Grylte]

So could I, if given that chance. I think Giggs has "only" managed four more games than me as well.

If we kick LvG, i'd let you have a shot as interim until the summer.
You can tell Woody that during negotiations, that i have faith in you!

 

[Brown Toothpick]

Pep couldnt handle the pressure at Barca, and had no pressure at Bayern.

City will be a big test for him.

14 trophies in 4 years. Talk about pressure!

 

[davidmichael]

Guardiola to City was the worst kept secret in football and in reality it's the best thing for us as Pep has always played it safe in where he goes, he took over Barca just as they became the dominant force in Spain then to Bayern where it's pretty hard to not win so coming to us in the shape we're in was a HUGE risk for both us and Guardiola.

So what it means is we've got a choice to make which is do we go for Mourinho or not ? If we're honest is there anyone out there better qualified to take over and that could realistically turn us around and make us dominant again ? The only downside is what he also brings which is off pitch drama.

For me I think there's absolutely no choice now other than to bring Mourinho in and let him sort us out his way as we can't afford to miss out on Champions League football and struggle competing for trophies, Mourinho = drama but trophies and success and that's been the case no matter where he's been including against Guardiola.

 

[The Purist]

I hope the irony is not lost on anyone when considering that you guys are lamenting not getting Guardiola whilst simultaneously laughing off the idea of Giggs.

 

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Pep couldnt handle the pressure at Barca, and had no pressure at Bayern.

City will be a big test for him.

Considering the state of the league, he's sure to win the next three PLs with the current squad. This will be his least pressure job as city would have won the league in a row, a big improvement.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

So could I, if given that chance. I think Giggs has "only" managed four more games than me as well.

have you managed at PL level?

 

[Ainu]

City might win some trophies that we weren't going to win anyway. Yes it's annoying that we'll probably have to watch them be successful, but as long as we're shit we've got bigger things to worry about. We need to sort our own club out. Perhaps this announcement might help the board to show some more ambition.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I hope the irony is not lost on anyone when considering that you guys are lamenting not getting Guardiola whilst simultaneously laughing off the idea of Giggs.

He managed in the Barcelona system. Giggs is a glorified ball carrier and cone putter outerer. Giggs thinks he is entitled because he has been made to feel that way by SAF and co. He shouldn't be anywhere near the job.

 

[Mibabalou]

Well it's definitely not good.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

City might win some trophies that we weren't going to win anyway. Yes it's annoying that we'll probably have to watch them be successful, but as long as we're shit we've got bigger things to worry about. We need to sort our own club out. Perhaps this announcement might help the board to show some more ambition.

Well said!

 

[Rood]

apart from confirming that Pep will definitely not be coming to us (which was a long shot ayway), this means absolutely feck all for us - no idea why all the hysteria?!

 

[The Purist]

He managed in the Barcelona system. Giggs is a glorified ball carrier and cone putter outerer. Giggs thinks he is entitled because he has been made to feel that way by SAF and co. He shouldn't be anywhere near the job.

Good to see you know everything.

 

[midnightmare]

We're not likely to get near City as is so what does it matter if they finish even further ahead of us under Pep?

We have to get our own house in order first, regardless of who the other teams have managing them. All the Pep appointment does is illustrate the fact that City are generally a more attractive proposition than us atm.

What you leave out is that the only way to set our own house in order (and thereby also become a more attractive proposition for managers of that caliber) is by appointing a great manager. Frankly, Mourinho really does seem to fancy us and he's available. Our other options are Pochettino (but why would he leave Spurs, assuming of course that Levy was to let him do that?), Blanc (no sign of him wanting to come over (Oh! And he's never managed in a competitive league, trying to build a team that's trailing massively, either) and Giggs (Not even managed a youth team).

For those people that are banging on about Pep also being essentially a new manager, umm, he managed Barcelona B for a season and won promotion too. He was a success there. Unlike him, Giggs hasn't managed anything to date. He's been a lieutenant to two failed managers now and therefore can't be compared to Pep (in my opinion, at least). And all this is before the fact that Pep may actually not have been first choice for Laporta (at least as per Laudrup).

All this said, I now firmly expect Ed to allow LvG to screw us over for another season before finally handing the reigns over to Giggs for the final denouement...

 

[JPRouve]

I hope the irony is not lost on anyone when considering that you guys are lamenting not getting Guardiola whilst simultaneously laughing off the idea of Giggs.

Because Giggs or Guardiola are equal? Because managers with Guardiola trajectory are common? Because United tactical culture is equal to Barcelona's?

One thing that people need to always keep in mind is that Guardiola managed a Barcelona team with a lot of academy players which means that most players had the same footballing education than Guardiola.

 

[dichinero]

Typical United fans, Pep moves to City and all of a sudden the sqauds average age is a talking point and how he might handle the pressure. The fact is City got their man and they will be willing to give him the same £250m United gave to LvG to transform the squad if needed. I know where my money is! We have bottled this and have been left behind.

 

[Sylar]

have you managed at PL level?

Only 4 games less than Giggs has.

If we kick LvG, i'd let you have a shot as interim until the summer.
You can tell Woody that during negotiations, that i have faith in you!

Your way of saying no chance in hell

 

[MoBeats]

You're all a bunch of big girls blouses. He was never going anywhere but city, if you'd accepted this weeks ago instead of deluding yourselves, there'd not be this embarrassing mass panic we see now.
Behave yourselves cos this is an embarrassment.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

Bit of a contradiction of terms?

Think of a big spring that spirals upwards and around us

 

[The Purist]

Because Giggs or Guardiola are equal? Because managers with Guardiola trajectory are common? Because United tactical culture is equal to Barcelona's?

One thing that people need to always keep in mind is that Guardiola managed a Barcelona team with a lot of academy players which means that most players had the same footballing education than Guardiola.

The truth is, you don't know until you see him in action with the adequate resources. One thing I will say, though, is that hiring a manager who has been at your club for his entire career and who has 'received the same footballing education' as everyone else there is a much more ambitious move than hiring a man who has been twice sacked by Chelsea, the last time on the back of embroiling them in a relegation scrap.

 

[littlepeasoup]

I hope the irony is not lost on anyone when considering that you guys are lamenting not getting Guardiola whilst simultaneously laughing off the idea of Giggs.

Giggs has been part of a backroom staff that has seen it's team produce some absolutely dross football. Guardiola was very successful at mentoring and coaching attacking style football in the lower Barcelona ranks. I'm not 100% sure it's comparable.

 

[2mufc0]

Not that surprised really, he went for the easiest job possible he's not one for a challenge.

As for us? Probably Giggs that's if Woodward grows the balls to fire his best mate.