Sky Sources : Blind and Mata set to leave this summer.

[VP89]

He was not.

When we signed carrick, people were not happy and didn't think he was united standard. Hence, almost everyone put us at 5th on league position due to 'not good enough signings".

I am not saying Blind right now is same quality as Carrick back then. I am saying Carrick was seen as meh signing by almost everyone.

I actually remember this. Not everyone saw the value of Carrick until some years after he signed.

 

[Scorpy]

They would be useful as squad players, but woulnd't be bothered if it happens. Still, I'd prefer to see Rojo and Fellaini leave before any other player.

 

[Sepukku]

Blind has to stay, it would be a huge mistake to let him go. Juan Mata is a great guy and a good footballer, who helped us a lot these last years but he never had a place here and was a panic buy. He shoud leave, provided we get a more adequate cover.

 

[Truedevil]

This would just needlessly create more holes in our team. I really do think Daley Blind is one of the best players in the league, selling him would be absolute madness. I could understand selling Mata especially if Mourinho has a clear plan with Rooney/James as a 10 but Blind must stay.

 

[Red_Beans]

"any United transfer stories for today?"
"nope"
"can we come up with any? Departures maybe?"
"well Mourinho sold Mata once already, and Blind was a LVG player, so..... "
"meh, that'll do, just slap 'Sky Sources' on it"

probably this. A few journos on a slow news day putting in some educated guess work. Our whole fanbase is trying to work out what Mourinho's plans for the team are. And while both these departures are possible, I'l bet my bottom dollar "sky sources" don't have a clue what Mourinho wants to do with these players

 

[sullydnl]

Hardly surprising if either of them are sold given they're basically the same sort of footballer: Clever, technically excellent, physically lacking. I would argue that those two virtues often compensate for that negative but our new manager doesn't seem inclined to feel the same way.

 

[FromTheBench]

I don't see Mourinho using Blind at all at CB unless last resort. He's the type of cb Mourinho would probably targeta as opposition coach.

Where else will he even be 2nd choice?

 

[ivaldo]

Carrick wasn't considered as a big deal even at Spurs who always thought huddlestone was better than him. When he came he was similar to blind. Not particularly fast, not very athletic but very good passer and good at plugging gaps attacking and defensive wise

There's no point mate, you can't say a bad word about Carrick here. Their memories seem to have been erased prior to 4 years ago.

The biggest single criticism of Fergie in the later years of his management was his midifeld, Carrick made up half of that midfield.

 

[Geordopolous]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/daley-blind-critical-manchester-uniteds-8036116

Interesting stuff but I don't think it sends the wrong message to the next manager at all. He doesn't mention mourinho or the next manager at all

 

[settembrini]

Selling Mata makes sense and would be a good move by Mourinho.

I am torn regarding Blind. He's a very good player in multiple positions and rarely injured, has given us two good seasons as a regular under Van Gaal and at worst would be a good squad player going forwards. However he lacks the physical attributes (like all too many in our squad) that Mourinho wants in his players. We have been physically dominated time after time in recent years and this doesn't happen to Mourinho's team. There's a clear logic to selling him even though I personally would prefer to keep him.

 

[Mainoldo]

I remember when the same kind of rumours popped up about Mata and Luiz at Chelsea.

No one believed them then, but both were gone within months.

This.

 

[VP89]

Selling Mata makes sense and would be a good move by Mourinho.

I am torn regarding Blind. He's a very good player in multiple positions and rarely injured, has given us two good seasons as a regular under Van Gaal and at worst would be a good squad player going forwards. However he lacks the physical attributes (like all too many in our squad) that Mourinho wants in his players. We have been physically dominated time after time in recent years and this doesn't happen to Mourinho's team. There's a clear logic to selling him even though I personally would prefer to keep him.

This myth pisses me right off. Blind isn't a weak player. Also, yeah its good to have physical players, and we have Smalling, Schneiderlin, Valencia, Rooney etc.

Theres no need to build a Zouma XI FFS.

 

[m1y2]

It's actually best for the club to get rid of average players who doesn't fit to manager's philosophy...

yeah we could find a place for them but if Jose sticks to his tactics Mata is a bit useless and Blind while being a good cover and I got to like him over the season will never be a first option for any position, we need to build world class cb partnership and if we have a chance to sign someone like Varane/Laporte they will complement with Smalling really well.

Blind's been good passing from the back but you can put any midfielder there and he will get praise for it.. He showed he can defend as well but over the season he made quite a lot of errors, he can't mark a player and we've been abysmal at defending set pieces and it is important part of the game. I think Jose had enough time to find find out one of our weakest points... otherwise Blind is really slow and weak for a leftback even though he had some good games there he also had some bad ones and for a midfielder he's not fabregas and he's not Matic, of course he's different but he's a bit average overall anyway and Jose might want to use definite types of midfielders.. If we extend to Carrick and sign a new midfielder he might not even get on the bench..

BUT saying all this I'd give him another chance after a decent season like this.

The article looks like completely made up though. Everybody knows Jose and his "hate" for Mata and what players he likes but why would he speak to anybody about that.. I could write that piece but I am quite surprised that Sky comes with a story like this

 

[walkinhop]

Honestly, regardless of how good they have been for us thus far, both are not what we need if we want to achieve something. Especially in the EPL, Blind is a weak link and can be, and has been, targeted by oppos. Mata won't be getting the number 10 anytime soon and on the win Mourinho would probably want speed.

While the "news" might be rubbish, as someone already said, it's an educated guess because it makes sense. In perspective, it all depends on who will take their places. I wouldn't mind them being sold if we strengthen significantly but if it's just an average signing, might as well keep them. Doubt anyone will be unhappy if we sign better players in their places.

 

[Nighteyes]

Who gives a feck about Blind? He's not good enough to start for United in any position. Sure I'd rather keep him than that clown Rojo but he's hardly much of a loss all things considered. He's got to be the most overrated player on this forum with all the babbling about him being an "intelligent" player. Couldn't give less of a feck about Blind leaving.

I don't see any justification for getting rid of Mata though so let's hope Mourinho knows what he is doing here.

 

[The red panther]

Upto standard in comparison to whom? Xavi? He is just as good as Carrick when Carrick first came to United.

He is not, he is a bang average midfielder that slows the game down alot, in fact he slows it down even more so than Carrick at age 35 which is saying it all isn't it

 

[CM]

Who gives a feck about Blind? He's not good enough to start for United in any position. Sure I'd rather keep him than that clown Rojo but he's hardly much of a loss all things considered. He's got to be the most overrated player on this forum with all the babbling about him being an "intelligent" player. Couldn't give less of a feck about Blind leaving.

I don't see any justification for getting rid of Mata though so let's hope Mourinho knows what he is doing here.

You were doing so well up until the second paragraph.

 

[settembrini]

This myth pisses me right off. Blind isn't a weak player.

I meant that he's slow and small.

 

[walkinhop]

This myth pisses me right off. Blind isn't a weak player. Also, yeah its good to have physical players, and we have Smalling, Schneiderlin, Valencia, Rooney etc.

Theres no need to build a Zouma XI FFS.

He is slow and he can't deal with aerials. This leaves gives Smalling too many problems while trying to cover for him. I don't mind defenders not being Zoumas but Blind simply lacks too much, especially if we want to move forward. He was a decent fix but we need to stop doing what we have been, we need proper people for their positions

 

[The red panther]

He's not average. He was one of the best CBs in the league last year. He has barely played in midfield for us, and I'd struggle to think of many players that would provide the versatility and composure he would.

He is not a good CB, he was totally out of his league for example versus WH. Couldn't win an aerial duel if his life depended on it. If LVG had half a brain to see that and played Fosu in his stead we would be in the CL right now.

 

[Nuts]

I call B.S.

Blind was one of our best players last season in a position that he did not favour in the PL.

He's been a leader for the team and has displayed grit in the PL. He could easily play in midfield and defence. Mourinho likes versatility and he's not about dump a very good player just because he's not physically intimidating or quick as lightning.

Mata was Chelsea player of the year when Mourinho sold him.

I'm happy to move them both on. Mata never really looked the part 100% and with the comments Blind has made there was no chance Mourinho would be overlooking them. Plus, he's just not a Mourinho player - too much a jack of all, master of none. Jose likes players that do what they say on the tin.

 

[spiriticon]

I like them both but Jose is doing the right thing for the team. Blind is a defensive liability (more big mistakes from him compared to Smalling) and he has no long term role at centre back IMO. He is a midfielder playing as a CB and has always looked like one. He's comfortable only when not overly pressured. Put a few guys to harry him and he's all over the place.

Mata...ahhhh. He's just too slow for any position... and he's going to get even slower as he gets older. He is our only free kick specialist though. We would lose a dead ball threat if we sold him.

 

[Shark]

He is not, he is a bang average midfielder that slows the game down alot, in fact he slows it down even more so than Carrick at age 35 which is saying it all isn't it

Blind is a typical LVG player. Couldn't picture him featuring in a SAF team as well as Mourinho.

 

[Rado_N]

I don't see the merits of getting rid of either player to be honest.

Sure, bring in better players to be first choice, but options don't hurt and our squad was far too thin last year.

 

[2mufc0]

This has been our problem this season, people pretending (or actually believing) players like Blind are top players, imo he's very average along with a number of players we have right now. Just watch a replay of the West Ham loss (cost us top 4) to see that he's not a CB and never will be. Squad player at best.

 

[FromTheBench]

Blind is a typical LVG player. Couldn't picture him featuring in a SAF team as well as Mourinho.

SAF would use him as a backup jack of all trades at best. John O'shea type.

Mourinho doesn't even do those types.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

How can people say getting rid of Blind is the right thing for the team? Hes not gonna cause any problem in the squad, seems like a model professional and has just been one of our best performers this year. His versatility is vital for any top team. Too many people just look at the first 11 rather than looking at the whole squad and in our peak success as a club players like blind were vital for that.

 

[FromTheBench]

This myth pisses me right off. Blind isn't a weak player. Also, yeah its good to have physical players, and we have Smalling, Schneiderlin, Valencia, Rooney etc.

Theres no need to build a Zouma XI FFS.

Having a aerially weak and slow CB costs us in the PL especially though. LVG compromised and tried to make it up elsewhere due to his left footedness and ball playing abilities, which isn't that big a consideration for Mourinho.,

 

[Gopher Brown]

I don't see the merits of getting rid of either player to be honest.

Sure, bring in better players to be first choice, but options don't hurt and our squad was far too thin last year.

Yes, people are very keen on here to put forward a list of players to sell, when actually we shouldn't be selling anyone at the moment, let alone players who were regulars last season. In fact, Mata played 54 games last season, and Blind played 56 games, and people want to get rid if these players before the myriad of regularly injured players.

 

[Gopher Brown]

Having a aerially weak and slow CB costs us in the PL especially though. LVG compromised and tried to make it up elsewhere due to his left footedness and ball playing abilities, which isn't that big a consideration for Mourinho.,

No it doesn't. We conceded the joint fewest goals in the PL. We couldn't score enough.

 

[Shimo]

Easy make up story but, just don't see getting rid of Blind - makes no sense at all with the size of the squad and the positional flexibility he provides and one less player to acclimatize to playing in a United shirt. If we end up with a bunch of far superior signings - which isn't going to happen, does not even make sense to discuss the possibility till then.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Smells like bollocks.

I doubt Jose has made any decisions on the squad at this point in time.

 

[dichinero]

Seems like people here are saying that Blind cost us the top 4 spot . Hilarious!

 

[#07]

How can people say getting rid of Blind is the right thing for the team? Hes not gonna cause any problem in the squad, seems like a model professional and has just been one of our best performers this year. His versatility is vital for any top team. Too many people just look at the first 11 rather than looking at the whole squad and in our peak success as a club players like blind were vital for that.

I am not necessarily saying he should go, just saying that I can see from Mourinho's perspective why he would be open to selling him.

There are bigger, stronger, faster players at left back, centre half and even holding midfield. For the way Mou wants to play, is Blind a better left back than Shaw or Borthwick-Jackson. Does he offer more pace and power than Jones, Rojo or Fosu-Mensah? Is he a more effective anchor man than Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger or Carrick? This is not saying that Blind is a worse player than any of those. Its a question of thinking 'what does Mourinho want from X position' and asking yourself is Blind better able to offer these things than other players at the club?

We know how Mourinho likes to play football. For exceptional talents he sometimes changes his tactics. For example, he indulged Ronaldo, and for a bit, Ozil. The long term trend though is, unless you're a world beater, you have to be able to perform the function he wants. I don't see how Blind does that better than some other players at United.

 

[Scorpy]

Who gives a feck about Blind? He's not good enough to start for United in any position. Sure I'd rather keep him than that clown Rojo but he's hardly much of a loss all things considered. He's got to be the most overrated player on this forum with all the babbling about him being an "intelligent" player. Couldn't give less of a feck about Blind leaving.

I don't see any justification for getting rid of Mata though so let's hope Mourinho knows what he is doing here.

This.

 

[Rado_N]

Yes, people are very keen on here to put forward a list of players to sell, when actually we shouldn't be selling anyone at the moment, let alone players who were regulars last season. In fact, Mata played 54 games last season, and Blind played 56 games, and people want to get rid if these players before the myriad of regularly injured players.

I wouldn't say 'anyone' - Rojo and Fellaini can happily leave. Otherwise, yea, I agree.

 

[spiriticon]

You guys are all assuming Blind wants to be a squad player and is happy spending his time on the bench.

But let's face it. We have adequate cover in the position he plays as it stands.

CB - Jones, Fosu Mensah, Rojo
LB - Rojo, Borthwick Jackson
CM - Schneiderlin, Herrera, maybe Fosu Mensah

Blind will not get a game all season unless it's the Capital One Cup.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

No matter what you think of Blind, the idea of selling Blind and keeping Rojo is outright madness.

 

[sullydnl]

You guys are all assuming Blind wants to be a squad player and is happy spending his time on the bench.

But let's face it. We have adequate cover in the position he plays as it stands.

CB - Jones, Fosu Mensah, Rojo
LB - Rojo, Borthwick Jackson
CM - Schneiderlin, Herrera, maybe Fosu Mensah

Blind will not get a game all season unless it's the Capital One Cup.

I wonder how many people would prefer to see Blind sold over Rojo though? Not many, I'd have thought.

Plus you can pretty much forget about Jones for large parts of the season too. In fact, looking at those options I'd say Blind was likely to play more than enough games over the course of the season.

 

[BennyBlanco]

This has been our problem this season, people pretending (or actually believing) players like Blind are top players, imo he's very average along with a number of players we have right now. Just watch a replay of the West Ham loss (cost us top 4) to see that he's not a CB and never will be. Squad player at best.

Nobody here is saying Blind is a top or elite level player, they're simply saying getting rid of an ever present (an extreme rarity concerning our squad), who has a good attitute, whos been one of our better performing outfield players this year, who can fill in, in a number of positions in a squad, isn't the best decision to start with regarding player departures.