VanGaalEra
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Never getting rid of Blind, the ultimate squad player.
Can't see the quality. He's alright, but not top 4 material as far as I can see. I suspect he'll be plying his trade at (somewhere like) West Brom in a couple of years time. Blind, on the other hand, I believe would do well in any league where he's appreciated. I think that, if he leaves, he'll end up at somewhere like Juve/Inter.Yeah, well that's where we disagree. I think Lingard is better quality than Blind, in a way that doesn't need tailoring. He's younger. He's brought up by the club. And he deserves the chance to keep proving himself next season.
Mourinho's first Chelsea team included Scott Parker, Tiago and Joe Cole. I wouldn't say those midfielders are pace/power types.Mourinho likes his players to be athletes: pace and/or power
I think Mou will want Carrick around, at least for next year, just for his title winning experience. Mou says he wants to win, and he will be wary of losing title winning experience with so many in our squad unused to squeaky bum time.So Fellaini, Rojo, Bastian, Carrick would be out immediately.
I guess so. I don't think Mou will make drastic changes in the team. He may even keep Mata if he can't get in a better player. It was not like he had some kind of personal fight with Mata at Chelsea. He preferred Oscar who was proved to be a bit meh.I think Mou will want Carrick around, at least for next year, just for his title winning experience. Mou says he wants to win, and he will be wary of losing title winning experience with so many in our squad unused to squeaky bum time.
The others could be under threat. Schweinsteiger's contract length, and winning know how, could save him. Still, he will need to prove he's still the player who won the 2014 World Cup to have a real future.
Rojo is aggressive at the back, that'll be a tick for Mou.
Fellaini doesn't have the mobility. He's big but he doesn't get around the field like Mou wants. I've never seen Mourinho use a player like Fellaini. Doesn't mean it won't happen but you go through the list of Mourinho midfielders, from Essien to Matic, none have been as lumbering as Fellaini.
Parker and Cole were there before he came in, and Im not sure Parker played much under him. Tiago was sold after 1 season if memory serves, and joe cole was pretty zippy when young and energetic.Mourinho's first Chelsea team included Scott Parker, Tiago and Joe Cole. I wouldn't say those midfielders are pace/power types.
Fellani is one of the toughest and biggest players in the league, Rojo is a hard man defender, Schweinsteiger puts himself about big time. Carrick is 6ft 1 whereas Blind is 5ft 9. Carrick is more important as part of the fabric of the club too, by a long long way.So Fellaini, Rojo, Bastian, Carrick would be out immediately.
Probably.So Fellaini, Rojo, Bastian, Carrick would be out immediately.
But none have the pace or power you said Mou wanted in the players.Fellani is one of the toughest and biggest players in the league, Rojo is a hard man defender, Schweinsteiger puts himself about big time. Carrick is 6ft 1 whereas Blind is 5ft 9. Carrick is more important as part of the fabric of the club too, by a long long way.
I misread your original post and thought it said 'tool', so my bad.
Hey don't get me wrong, I'd rather keep both. But I'm not the manager. If he's got something else in mind that doesn't require their services then that's up to him. So long as he doesn't leave the squad threadbare like van Gaal did, but we have sufficient left back cover and an abundance of number tens.So what is there to like with being ruthless about something that is the least of our worries?!
LVG was ruthless too for the past 2 years and we know how some people saw it. Also, I don't remember Jose shipping tons of players out of old squads from his previous teams when he took over. Can someone confirm that?
Great managers usually make good use with what they have mostly instead of wholesale changes.
Scott Parker put himself about and was a proper PL player. Can't remember much about Tiago as a player TBH. J Cole was perhaps the player that infuriated Mourinho the most for lack of work rate etc.Mourinho's first Chelsea team included Scott Parker, Tiago and Joe Cole. I wouldn't say those midfielders are pace/power types.
I said pace and/or power.But none have the pace or power you said Mou wanted in the players.
Consistently below average isn't something to be particularly proud about tbh.Hasn't Blind been one of our most consistent players over the last two years?
Indeed.Very surprised about Blind. Can give very good cover in three different positions, but SSN has been a bit crap for a long, long time.
When Blind was played in DM, he was fine and one of the highest rated players in his first season.Consistently below average isn't something to be particularly proud about tbh.
Mata has scored or assisted more goals than any other United payer barring Rooney since he arrived.As for Mata, I personally dont like the player, he can pop up with a goal from time to time, but he creates next to nothing
He was fecking dreadful. A defensive midfielder, who ran around like a headless chicken leaving the defense exposed. No sense of positioning, awareness or anything.When Blind was played in DM, he was fine and one of the highest rated players in his first season.
In his 2nd season, he was good. Not average. The problem is that he is not a defender and when played out of position, you cannot expect him to perform at his highest ability.
Mata keeps it safe probably most of the time he has the ball, but who's to say it's not from Van Gaal's instructions?Mata has scored or assisted more goals than any other United payer barring Rooney since he arrived.
'Creates nothing', feck me.
I'd be extremely surprised if he hasn't already done so.Mourinho is probably going over the stats of all his players. It's his thing, isn't it?
This.He was fecking dreadful. A defensive midfielder, who ran around like a headless chicken leaving the defense exposed. No sense of positioning, awareness or anything.
Our entire team creates nothing bar Martial, Martial is our best forward, then Mata. It says nothing as all of our forwards arent good enough bar Martial. Compared to Ozil, Eriksen, de Bruyne, Reus etc, Mata is indeed not very creative. As in assists/chances created/key passes.Mata has scored or assisted more goals than any other United payer barring Rooney since he arrived.
'Creates nothing', feck me.
That's fine if we're replacing Mata with Ozil, Eriksen, De Bruyne, Reus or similar. Until we do though it might be a smart idea to hang on to him for the time being.Our entire team creates nothing bar Martial, Martial is our best forward, then Mata. It says nothing as all of our forwards arent good enough bar Martial. Compared to Ozil, Eriksen, de Bruyne, Reus etc, Mata is indeed not very creative. As in assists/chances created/key passes.
Like feck he was.He was fecking dreadful. A defensive midfielder, who ran around like a headless chicken leaving the defense exposed. No sense of positioning, awareness or anything.
I think its unfair to talk Mata down. He's a top player. He simply doesn't offer what Mourinho wants from a #10.Our entire team creates nothing bar Martial, Martial is our best forward, then Mata. It says nothing as all of our forwards arent good enough bar Martial. Compared to Ozil, Eriksen, de Bruyne, Reus etc, Mata is indeed not very creative. As in assists/chances created/key passes.
Its not fair to judge most attackers under LVGs regime tbh.Our entire team creates nothing bar Martial, Martial is our best forward, then Mata. It says nothing as all of our forwards arent good enough bar Martial. Compared to Ozil, Eriksen, de Bruyne, Reus etc, Mata is indeed not very creative. As in assists/chances created/key passes.
First season in the league coming from the Dutch league, he did fine. Look at Memphis for how badly that transition can go.He was fecking dreadful. A defensive midfielder, who ran around like a headless chicken leaving the defense exposed. No sense of positioning, awareness or anything.
You mean he pissed off the caf or the sky sourcesDaley shouldn't have said those nice things about van Gaal.