RC89
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City. The players at their disposal and the money they've spent, they should really be winning it.
I think people give Moyes far too much credit. Never before in the history of football has one man had such influence. The winning mentality of SAF barely lasted a month into the next season but Moyes, despite having never met most of our current starting team, is still causing Jose heartache.Absolutely.. too many axes being sharpend by people with zero clue as to the task at hand.. But that's the internet for you.. everyone has a voice but not always the IQ..
Which people? I don't know anyone outside of United fans who expect you to win the league. It wouldn't be a giant shock, but certainly not an expectation. You finished 6th last year.Us. It's always us because we are the biggest club in the world people expect us to win the league every year.
feck the spending portion. You spend because you want to be in the best position to win. Ultimately, the pressure to win doesn't apply to only those who spend money, it starts with the individual player and then the manager. Jose knows what it takes to win and knows what it feels like to set those expectations and standards and keep to them. That's the internal drive and pressure. But for Spurs not to have that, which is what you're coming from, and just slip under the radar, that's pretty poor.Spurs aren't even remotely under pressure to win the league title next season for two reasons: 1) we're having to play all our "home" games at Wembley; and 2) we have by far the lowest net spend on transfers compared to all the contenders over the last 5 or 6 years because most of our spare money has been sunk into construction projects.
Moreover, when United has spent on just two players a sum that's far more than the cost of our entire best XI, and when City's spending since Pep arrived has already far exceeded (with more to come) the total cost of our entire squad, it's easy to see which clubs are under pressure to deliver.
If I were a spur fan, I'd be pissed off at that, rather than take it as a point of pride. If you had no money, sure. But you have the best platform for building a title winning you've had in living memory - And seem content to piss away that opportunity to pinch pennies.Spurs aren't even remotely under pressure to win the league title next season for two reasons: 1) we're having to play all our "home" games at Wembley; and 2) we have by far the lowest net spend on transfers compared to all the contenders over the last 5 or 6 years because most of our spare money has been sunk into construction projects.
Right now we (Spurs) spend mainly on construction projects, because we are building for the long-term rather than aiming for quick fixes: the latter is Mourinho's approach, using a cheque book. And I haven't said that the pressure to win applies only those who spend money on players, but it certainly IMO applies more to such clubs.feck the spending portion. You spend because you want to be in the best position to win. Ultimately, the pressure to win doesn't apply to only those who spend money, it starts with the individual player and then the manager. Jose knows what it takes to win and knows what it feels like to set those expectations and standards and keep to them. That's the internal drive and pressure. But for Spurs not to have that, which is what you're coming from, and just slip under the radar, that's pretty poor.
Don't you want Spurs to win the league? Your squad is very good, talented and has familiarity. But how long can you go like this? A step will happen...either up or down. Isn't there pressure to be the best or are Spurs content on being competitive and being proud of their new stadium in North London?
Most of our spare money has gone / is going on building a new training centre and new stadium complex. On these we've spent lavishly - we can't do that and spend lots on new players, or not without running up vast debts that would hamstring the club for many years to come. Your charge of "penny pinching" is absurd.If I were a spur fan, I'd be pissed off at that, rather than take it as a point of pride. If you had no money, sure. But you have the best platform for building a title winning you've had in living memory - And seem content to piss away that opportunity to pinch pennies.
I'm happy enough with that tbh,I don't think there are many outside manchester expecting a serious title challenge from united as things stand. You've spent a lot of money moving sideways so far. The ones on the horizon don't like significantly better players than what you already have - Maybe a better fit though.
Which is really where you are at - Banking on 2nd season being better for everyone at the club and pieces fitting together better this year, more so than significantly strengthening the quality of the side.
It might well happen (it is more or less what klopp did last season) but I don't think it will be anywhere near enough to take you from 6th to 1st.
I think there's a lot of players lesser than neymar who could significantly improve you.I'm happy enough with that tbh,
Were not lacking quality across the pitch, its about getting more from what we have imo
Pushing fellaini down a spot in the pecking order would help but otherwise your looking at a Neymar level player to make a significant improvement in the team we have.
Chopping and changing our squad every season hasn't been paying off, so taking a more measured approach this summer is fine with me.
Maybe, they could.I think there's a lot of players lesser than neymar who could significantly improve you.
Consolidating your team might not be a bad idea for the longterm given the past four seasons - If you're prepared to accept that you're not likely to seriously challenge this season.
It doesn't matter where we finished last year. It's like at Real, Barca, Bayern or any other team that has been top dog of their league for almost 20 years that the fans at least start to see a season without at least a league win as a failure. Is it reasonable given our current state, probably not. Doesn't change the fact that the expectations from our fans are always there and that things will get rough rather sooner than later for any manager who fails to satisfy these expectations.Which people? I don't know anyone outside of United fans who expect you to win the league. It wouldn't be a giant shock, but certainly not an expectation. You finished 6th last year.
Maybe if Pep wasn't around then Jose would be under more pressure, but for most people I know this season is all about City winning or being humiliated.