Press conference - Bournemouth

[beedoubleyou]

I get that they want a story, but if joses said he wont talk about the city match bust up then they should have the decency to respect that and move on considering that press conference was about the Bournemouth game. Joses right, they showed no respect for Bournemouth.

Journalists just looking for an easy quote to make headlines but he hasn't given them one. I don't know what they expect him to say about it all, no manager should/would open up about details of incidents in a press conference.

Not quite true. JOSE SAYS CITY PLAYERS UNEDUCATED seems to be the lead story.

 

[Listar]

Not quite true. JOSE SAYS CITY PLAYERS UNEDUCATED seems to be the lead story.

Not quite true. JOSE SAYS CITY PLAYERS HAVE DIFFERENT/DIVERSITY IN EDUCATION.

Do you have problems with comprehension?

 

[Zoo]

Sky say he walked out of the press conference. Er no, it had finished.

 

[Eire Red United]

So, if you lose you always have that impetus to give more in the next match?

Therein is the issue. If you can give more after a loss then it's indicative that you didn't give your all in the City match.
Word it this way and it's tantamount to a criticism of the teams effort levels in the loss.

It’s not, it’s literally an old cliche that losing, especially to your rivals will spur you on to make sure it doesn’t happen next time.

 

[Big Andy]

Sky say he walked out of the press conference. Er no, it had finished.

"We didn't get chance to ask you about Bournemouth"

Actually, you did, you just chose to ask stupid questions about the tunnel bust up instead...

 

[redIndianDevil]

There's something to be said of maturity.
I think Mourinho has matured since those days of running down the touchline celebrating a win. Just like SAF didn't like it then, Mo doesn't like it now.
From what I've seen over the past 18 months, Mourinho has changed in his approach to the media (for the better). Every time he has a presser, the journalists have an alternate agenda, always trying to coax a response from him because of his history. He has done well avoiding being sucked in, you can see it on his face when questioned on a sensitive topic. he has shown great restraint.
I get the feeling that he was more forthcoming in his interviews in the past and now you only get half truths or deflective answers. He has to be that way because of his history in being too honest (if that's the right word?) in previous interviews.
Cut the man some slack, you have to be blind not to notice that he has changed his approach, respecting the club and respecting the fans.

So what just because Mourinho has "matured" now, everyone else should also mature at the same time? He has to take it on the chin and move on just like others did when he did things like these. BTW I don't think he is matured now, even in this season he decided to shake hands before the match was over(don't remember which one), while it may not look disrespectful to others IMO it is, it's not like he has urgent business to take care in those two minutes.

 

[Jinn]

So what just because Mourinho has "matured" now, everyone else should also mature at the same time? He has to take it on the chin and move on just like others did when he did things like these. BTW I don't think he is matured now, even in this season he decided to shake hands before the match was over(don't remember which one), while it may not look disrespectful to others IMO it is, it's not like he has urgent business to take care in those two minutes.

The only conclusion I can take from that response is that you are the immature one and need to do some growing up.
You clearly don't like Mourinho, fair enough.
At least try to support the manager of the club, that's your duty as a fan. Alternatively, there's plenty more space in the Etihad for a sky blue converter.

 

[Jig1234]

ahah. Mourinho embarrassing himself and the club.

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So, many of you lot are all upset about this post. -

Mourinho. This is a guy that did a full knee slide at Old Trafford when he beat us. Why does he need to come out with nonsense about how the opposition celebrate. Honestly, who cares. Why would anyone care. If we had won we would be milking it too. Just accept you lost because we deserved to lose. (most fans accepted that)

Mourinho is a terrible loser. He always comes with nonsense when he loses. Remember when we lost 4-0 to Chelsea tells Conte he should no celebrate the 4th goal, celebrate 1-0 but not the 4th because it's humiliating to us. (It's almost like he is suggesting Conte celebrating a 4th goal is more humiliating than actually losing 4-0?, ok whatever.

It's not a Mourinho out comment. Calm down. Sometimes when you lose, just accept it. You don't need to constantly try to deflect with embarrassing comments about how the opposition celebrate. He would've been lapping it up had we won that game. Lose with a bit of grace. That's all I'm saying.

The you have Pep coming saying he is sorry if they offended anyone. It's embarrassing, sorry for what winning and being happy about it? - Just take the L we got and move on.

He rather you focus on this then the fact that we lost and played badly. Some of you are doing just that. Again it's not a criticism of him managing us. I still back him but I don't need to worship every aspect or decision.

That tunnel incident was not accidental. Mourinho went in there wanting that to happen. He chose to get offended by loud music and walk into their dressing room. So that we end up in a situation like this, where we talk about everything but the defeat.

 

[beedoubleyou]

Not quite true. JOSE SAYS CITY PLAYERS HAVE DIFFERENT/DIVERSITY IN EDUCATION.

Do you have problems with comprehension?

I was kinda mocking the press, but excellent trolling.

 

[Paxi]

I like Jose but like everyone on this planet - he's occasionally a hypocrite thats full of shit. It's normal for a human being imo.

 

[Drz]

I don't blame Mourinho for walking out on his press conference, He said he wanted to talk about the Bournemouth game, But the press and media wouldn't let him do that, Twats.

Whilst I am usually against the press and their "lollipop" questions, on this occurence it is more interesting to question what happened in the tunnel, particularly given the lack of information and given Mou instructed just the week before that there should not be any filming in the tunnel.
I was more interested in hearing about what went down in the tunnel than hear our Mou explain how difficult it will be for us to play Bournemouth.

 

[Jig1234]

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...rms-out-of-manchester-united-press-conference

Reading the full quotes, the only ones who embarrassed themselves are the journalists. They kept asking the same question about the incident over and over and over again neglecting we have a fecking game the next day and they should be asking about it. They were trying to force a quote from Mourinho to fill their headlines. How embarrassing is English media is beyond me.

Fair point, those tweets don't provide the whole picture. My points were more about the whole tunnel thing more so than the tweets themselves.

 

[Jig1234]

Do elaborate on how he's embarrassed the club there if you weren't wumming for a reaction.

I've posted a reply. I probably should've provided more details as the tweets mentioned don't paint the entire picture.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Mourinho is absolutely right.

 

[golden_blunder]

Genuinely think there should be an open forum set up here regarding the absolute state of this site at the moment. Have said it in many other threads- this is nothing to do with being annoyed by a different opinion , that's what a forum is all about, what's happening pretty much every thread is that it's getting detoured by things that aren't even opinions. Just nonsense word jumbles with "embarrassing" thrown in or having to explain everything that hints at a little bias towards united to city fans.

Would genuinely be interested to see if many feel the same way, I find the forum a fraction of the quality it used to be. Perhaps an up or down voting system on a post would be good, with any poster making a certain number of posts that get an agreed number of down votes having membership looked at by mods. We've become you tube without the videos. (Again I'm not talking about down voting an opinion you disagree with, I'm talking about absolute tripe like "oh here we go Jose embarrassing club" based on nothing, like the post match bust up thread shambles where people acted like they knew what happened. Long for the days of red cafe a few years back, even 18 months back.

Start a thread in the admin help section. All constructive feedback. We will look at it and see what we can work with. Niall has already made a few changes recently which will hopefully address some of these concerns

@Niall @Raoul @Damien @Wibble

 

[milemuncher777]

Mou instructed just the week before that there should not be any filming in the tunnel.

It wasn't Mourinho it was club who made a decision not to allow City to film their documentary. And we have every right to do so.

I was more interested in hearing about what went down in the tunnel than hear our Mou explain how difficult it will be for us to play Bournemouth.

Err. This is a pre-match press conference for Bournemouth game not a post-match fight report on what happened in tunnel. If you're so interested hearing about brawls and fights then football is not for you.

 

[SER19]

Start a thread in the admin help section. All constructive feedback. We will look at it and see what we can work with. Niall has already made a few changes recently which will hopefully address some of these concerns

Thanks for the message, might do just don't want to be irritating mods who do a great job as the internet is almost impossible to police. If there was a core of long term members with similar concerns about the drop in quality then perhaps more worthy of a look than my personal feeling!

 

[breakout67]

How was that press conference embarrassing???

The journalists were asking about the city bust-up in a conference for a game against Bournemouth. They aren't doing their jobs, but looking for headlines and clicks.

 

[Sied]

I take it nothing was said about injured players returning then, if all they spoke about was the derby? Very inconsiderate of the journos. Some of us have lineup predictions to plan.

 

[AXVnee7]

Jose has every right to walk out of the press conference. I do appreciate that the press will want to garner details on the incident, and hear the perspective of Jose himself but he was asked and answered accordingly. It's disrespectful to continue to hound him on that subject, both to Mourinho and to Bournemouth. It's not a post match conference, it's a PRE-match conference vs Bournemouth.

I'm slightly surprised that Jose didn't use his wits to handle the situation as he's had plenty of experience with these types of situations, but if he simply had enough and wanted out then I can't blame him one bit for that.

 

[beedoubleyou]

Thanks for the message, might do just don't want to be irritating mods who do a great job as the internet is almost impossible to police. If there was a core of long term members with similar concerns about the drop in quality then perhaps more worthy of a look than my personal feeling!

Do you not think this might be linked to the increasing frustration from the fans in the post SAF era? From a couple of barren years to Man City's brilliant season, it feels like some people are either venting their frustration with hyperbolic extremism, or somehow distancing themselves from the situation by being overly critical of the club.

It's a weird one, I'm a fan, if I'm feeling really pissed off then I'll leave the Internet for a few days and breathe. Once I've calmed down, then I'm quite realistic again. That said, I was openly delighted with the sackings of Moyes and LVG, so who am I to judge!

 

[Canagel]

Mourinho is a very clever man. He knew exactly what he was doing when he went to the City dressing room. He went there knowing fully there might be a confrontation and I just feel this whole episode was meant to take attention away from the poor performance and give journalists something to else to talk about. On the basis of this presser it seems to have worked.

 

[SER19]

Do you not think this might be linked to the increasing frustration from the fans in the post SAF era? From a couple of barren years to Man City's brilliant season, it feels like some people are either venting their frustration with hyperbolic extremism, or somehow distancing themselves from the situation by being overly critical of the club.

It's a weird one, I'm a fan, if I'm feeling really pissed off then I'll leave the Internet for a few days and breathe. Once I've calmed down, then I'm quite realistic again. That said, I was openly delighted with the sackings of Moyes and LVG, so who am I to judge!

I've thought that but overall no. Everybody is used to hyperbole and knee jerk. I think most decent mature posters enjoy the contentious talking points, I think if you take any thread and any page now there's a higher percentage than ever of posts that are just more at home on YouTube. There's just so much to sift through. And that's from our own fans. A huge influx of opposition fans at a time when that team is successful should be seen as a Trojan horse. Nothing personal but in an already hard to control environment I just don't see the benefit of a huge number of guardiola obsessed city fans in a United forum - it's a guarantee for not only different opinions but ones so rigid discussion is pointless

 

[Catt]

@SER19, totally agreeing with what you are saying.

 

[haram]

Mourinho is a very clever man. He knew exactly what he was doing when he went to the City dressing room. He went there knowing fully there might be a confrontation and I just feel this whole episode was meant to take attention away from the poor performance and give journalists something to else to talk about. On the basis of this presser it seems to have worked.

If that's the case, good. We need to move on and improve on ourselves. Sounds sad, but we shouldn't concentrate on what City are doing right now, however great it looks.

 

[SER19]

@SER19, totally agreeing with what you are saying.

Good to know, I do feel that in recent weeks I've Seen many more posts with at least a little of the same sentiment which is itself quite telling. Nobody thinks everything should be happy and everybody agreeing that's completely unrealistic, but it can't be much to ask to not see some of the rubbish on almost every page. It's hard not to think a large amount aren't hidden opposition

 

[beedoubleyou]

I've thought that but overall no. Everybody is used to hyperbole and knee jerk. I think most decent mature posters enjoy the contentious talking points, I think if you take any thread and any page now there's a higher percentage than ever of posts that are just more at home on YouTube. There's just so much to sift through. And that's from our own fans. A huge influx of opposition fans at a time when that team is successful should be seen as a Trojan horse. Nothing personal but in an already hard to control environment I just don't see the benefit of a huge number of guardiola obsessed city fans in a United forum - it's a guarantee for not only different opinions but ones so rigid discussion is pointless

That's fair. Some threads feel like the below the line comments on The Guardian.

 

[Catt]

Good to know, I do feel that in recent weeks I've Seen many more posts with at least a little of the same sentiment which is itself quite telling. Nobody thinks everything should be happy and everybody agreeing that's completely unrealistic, but it can't be much to ask to not see some of the rubbish on almost every page. It's hard not to think a large amount aren't hidden opposition

It's like worms creeping out all over the place, you also have the same posters moaning in almost every thread. I do get people are frustrated but most of the time it's just about acting like a grown up and not a bloody child. Have a little self control.

 

[SER19]

So, many of you lot are all upset about this post. -

Mourinho. This is a guy that did a full knee slide at Old Trafford when he beat us. Why does he need to come out with nonsense about how the opposition celebrate. Honestly, who cares. Why would anyone care. If we had won we would be milking it too. Just accept you lost because we deserved to lose. (most fans accepted that)

Mourinho is a terrible loser. He always comes with nonsense when he loses. Remember when we lost 4-0 to Chelsea tells Conte he should no celebrate the 4th goal, celebrate 1-0 but not the 4th because it's humiliating to us. (It's almost like he is suggesting Conte celebrating a 4th goal is more humiliating than actually losing 4-0?, ok whatever.

It's not a Mourinho out comment. Calm down. Sometimes when you lose, just accept it. You don't need to constantly try to deflect with embarrassing comments about how the opposition celebrate. He would've been lapping it up had we won that game. Lose with a bit of grace. That's all I'm saying.

The you have Pep coming saying he is sorry if they offended anyone. It's embarrassing, sorry for what winning and being happy about it? - Just take the L we got and move on.

He rather you focus on this then the fact that we lost and played badly. Some of you are doing just that. Again it's not a criticism of him managing us. I still back him but I don't need to worship every aspect or decision.

That tunnel incident was not accidental. Mourinho went in there wanting that to happen. He chose to get offended by loud music and walk into their dressing room. So that we end up in a situation like this, where we talk about everything but the defeat.

Not that your first post had to be as thorough as this but do you think it might have benefitted from at least a little depth. Your first post is appalling and naturally provoked a reaction from many posters. Add to that that your previous post in this thread was also not exactly insightful. Both just seemed like thoughtless jabs at mourinho.


In terms of your point, regarding the tunnel again you have absolute no idea what provoked mourinho to say anything (if that's what happened). In the public eye he has said little to nothing about it. Which comments in particular specifically about their celebrations were "embarrassing" for you? and for my money was absolutely right to walk out of that conference the way he did. Pre match, and not getting a single question about it? Not worth his time and not part of his media duties.

In terms of deflecting media attention from our performance, it's basically a move invented by Alex Ferguson. And to say that's what he's doing is also just guesswork

 

[beedoubleyou]

Did MUTV not broadcast it? Unusual for the full thing to be posted by now.

 

[Jig1234]

Not that your first post had to be as thorough as this but do you think it might have benefitted from at least a little depth. Your first post is appalling and naturally provoked a reaction from many posters. Add to that that your previous post in this thread was also not exactly insightful. Both just seemed like thoughtless jabs at mourinho.


In terms of your point, regarding the tunnel again you have absolute no idea what provoked mourinho to say anything (if that's what happened). In the public eye he has said little to nothing about it. Which comments in particular specifically about their celebrations were "embarrassing" for you? and for my money was absolutely right to walk out of that conference the way he did. Pre match, and not getting a single question about it? Not worth his time and not part of his media duties.

In terms of deflecting media attention from our performance, it's basically a move invented by Alex Ferguson. And to say that's what he's doing is also just guesswork

That's fair, I should've elaborated in more detail. I think from the moment we lost, the tunnel incident and the post match sparring. Much of that could've been avoided. From what I've read Man City were playing music loud which prompted Mourinho to into their dressing room, it's not the worst crime. I would be surprised if that doesn't happen after most matches.

I just hope the players are focused on the game tonight vs Bournemouth because Chelsea are right on our tails. We need to put this beyond us and focus on the games ahead. I worry few match bans might be coming some players way though, once the FA decide what action to take.

 

[SER19]

That's fair, I should've elaborated in more detail. I think from the moment we lost, the tunnel incident and the post match sparring. Much of that could've been avoided. From what I've read Man City were playing music loud which prompted Mourinho to into their dressing room, it's not the worst crime. I would be surprised if that doesn't happen after most matches.

I just hope the players are focused on the game tonight vs Bournemouth because Chelsea are right on our tails. We need to put this beyond us and focus on the games ahead. I worry few match bans might be coming some players way though, once the FA decide what action to take.

Fair enough, but for somebody in the game a long time I really doubt he went to their dressing room about music. Again we just don't know, and as a supporter of the club I'm not saying I blindly would, but I'd err on our side of the fence. We saw what city are capable of versus Southampton where guardiola stormed the pitch (unpunished) edersom was larging it up into the camera in the tunnel, and there's been pictures of fecking confetti going off. I'm sceptical that they were untying their boots listening to eye of the tiger

 

[Jig1234]

Fair enough, but for somebody in the game a long time I really doubt he went to their dressing room about music. Again we just don't know, and as a supporter of the club I'm not saying I blindly would, but I'd err on our side of the fence. We saw what city are capable of versus Southampton where guardiola stormed the pitch (unpunished) edersom was larging it up into the camera in the tunnel, and there's been pictures of fecking confetti going off. I'm sceptical that they were untying their boots listening to eye of the tiger

That's true. Far too much speculation. FA have said no CCTV footage of anything. I doubt that will stop them dishing out match bans to Lukaku, Rojo, Ederson etc. We'll have to wait and see what happens.

 

[SER19]

That's true. Far too much speculation. FA have said no CCTV footage of anything. I doubt that will stop them dishing out match bans to Lukaku, Rojo, Ederson etc. We'll have to wait and see what happens.

Personally think, and hope, it will die down until the main instigators - the press- stir it up again before the return fixture

 

[Drz]

It wasn't Mourinho it was club who made a decision not to allow City to film their documentary. And we have every right to do so.

Err. This is a pre-match press conference for Bournemouth game not a post-match fight report on what happened in tunnel. If you're so interested hearing about brawls and fights then football is not for you.

Yes, what we defo need in football is more sheepish questions with banal ready-made answers.
As for what interests me, it is new information about what happens at my club, I have no problem with people wanting/needing their two-bit ready made replies so they don't have too much to waste their neurons on.
Your attitude can be summed-up by a blind-folded emoji, and that is hilarious (also new information for me and as uninteresting as Mourinho's pressers)

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

He's trying his best to put the focus on himself and take the spotlight off his players. If he had went in and said our biggest player fecked up twice on set piece duties the media would be on Lukaku's ass for the rest of the week while his confidence is already in the dumps. Instead he is doing what he does best, complaining about penalties, deflecting criticism onto himself by provoking City players etc.

Its not a glamorous thing to do but something a manager has to do to protect his players.

 

[OohAahMartial]

Genuinely think there should be an open forum set up here regarding the absolute state of this site at the moment. Have said it in many other threads- this is nothing to do with being annoyed by a different opinion , that's what a forum is all about, what's happening pretty much every thread is that it's getting detoured by things that aren't even opinions. Just nonsense word jumbles with "embarrassing" thrown in or having to explain everything that hints at a little bias towards united to city fans.

Would genuinely be interested to see if many feel the same way, I find the forum a fraction of the quality it used to be. Perhaps an up or down voting system on a post would be good, with any poster making a certain number of posts that get an agreed number of down votes having membership looked at by mods. We've become you tube without the videos. (Again I'm not talking about down voting an opinion you disagree with, I'm talking about absolute tripe like "oh here we go Jose embarrassing club" based on nothing, like the post match bust up thread shambles where people acted like they knew what happened. Long for the days of red cafe a few years back, even 18 months back.

Agreed! Maybe needs to be a bit more like Reddit where downvoted comments get hidden.

 

[redIndianDevil]

The only conclusion I can take from that response is that you are the immature one and need to do some growing up.
You clearly don't like Mourinho, fair enough.
At least try to support the manager of the club, that's your duty as a fan. Alternatively, there's plenty more space in the Etihad for a sky blue converter.

LOL I do support the club and when our manager does something that I think it's not good I'll post my opinion about it. I just think Mourinho was being a sore loser, a trait which I don't like in any sports.

You are calling me immature yet you are the one acting like a sheep and supporting whatever crap Mourinho comes out with.

 

[Pace Abuser]

EDIT:ahah. Mourinho embarrassing himself and the club.

Sometimes I think Mourinho should just accept the defeat without getting techy about it.

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What a ridiculous post. Jose was right to be annoyed.

 

[SuperiorXI]

Journalists are right wankers. Never ask the right questions.