He cant leave it when club legends are undermining him AND his players. That comes under man management. Scholes and co have an agenda and Jose is in the way.
Mourinho's comments on Scholes
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Again, I agree with both their points of view. From that analysis, I really don't any overly critical comments from Scholes. But Jose should have just left it alone. It's just jouros looking for a story - which they got sadly.
This Mourinho wouldn't play Pogba in a three without Scholes' advice is quite laughable tbf. We've tried Pogba in a three earlier on in the season, with Herrera and Matic, it just didn't work
Manager having a go at a pundit having a go at his player.
Remember Fergie calling Keane a failed manager.
Remember Fergie calling Keane a failed manager.
Never once has anyone questioned this. He should choose his battles, getting into an argument with Scholes will never help anyone.
He is fecking SPOT ON! If you take it out of context it will sound rubbish. He is making the point that Pogba is not playing in his best position.
Scholes and Neville are hypocrites.
They said very little about Rooney in the last few years. They don’t tend to be critical of English players. They have a go at Martial and Pogba yet people think they should get a free pass.
Funny how Neville was constantly moaning about Martial when he was out of form and says little about Rashford.
They said very little about Rooney in the last few years. They don’t tend to be critical of English players. They have a go at Martial and Pogba yet people think they should get a free pass.
Funny how Neville was constantly moaning about Martial when he was out of form and says little about Rashford.
Like I said, even Fergie had issues with Keane and Neville towards the end of his career.
Not surprising from Scholes or Mourinho. Nothing to see here, let's move on.
Do Scholes and co have an agenda though? I think they just say what they see.
I can recollect Scholes praising United etc. Saying they definitely improved since LvG..
If he does then Scholes can feck off but I just don't see it.
He wasnt having a go at Pogba. He was saying that Pogba isn't going to be the £90 million match winner we paid for anywhere near as often in the deeper midfield 2 position. He was saying play him where he played when we signed him for that much, in a midfield 3.
Scholes is so negative, so, so negative. Has been since day 1 of his pundit career. Don't think he has an agenda, his opinions are always just negative.
People in media talking is one thing though. Mourinho should focus on our team rather than on the outside world. I feel he cares far too much about what other people think about him. He need to work on the tactics and improve the performance and get the team together in a more positive way. Siege mentality can work for a short time, but being under siege forever will always fall apart sooner or later and he will fall out with half the team. He is being Mourinho fully now and I see this sadly ending badly for us.
Scholes was critical of Rooney.
Also Jose has always had a things against pundits. He was having a go at Redknapp and Souness a few years ago. I’m sure if he was having a go at them or Keown nobody would be moaning or telling him to keep his trap shut.
Spot on by Jose. Scoles was a great player but is a really lousy pundit.
If Scoles wants to lay in when the team are down, it’s fair game for Jose to give it back.
Really can’t stand Scoles as a pundit, listening to him through the LVG reign trying to get Giggs in the job was enough.
If Scoles wants to lay in when the team are down, it’s fair game for Jose to give it back.
Really can’t stand Scoles as a pundit, listening to him through the LVG reign trying to get Giggs in the job was enough.
Maybe, just maybe thats because we have finished 7th, 4th, 5th and 6th since he became a pundit?
I'm tired of our ex players giving us shit for not being the United of old. If they cared so much about the state of the club they'd be working as coaches and trying to improve things instead of sitting on a sofa in a studio, talking about how shit United are or letting people behind the curtain under Fergie just so they can get themselves the next paid gig.
Unnecessary comments but ya, Scholes is shitty pundit tbf.
I didn't think there was much wrong with Scholes comments.
Suprised it touched a nerve with Jose.
Suprised it touched a nerve with Jose.
Bit of handbags/misunderstanding/mistranslation/chinese whispers, call it what you will that accompanies big teams during bad runs.
No he wasn’t. He was sitting on the fence saying he should be played centre forward and then midfield when he was terrible as centre forward.
https://www.joe.co.uk/amp/sport/pau...m-suggesting-the-problem-lies-elsewhere-22285
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...Rooney-Man-Utd-Liverpool-Chelsea-Man-City/amp
That’s just a few things in the last few years.
It's not just limited to his thoughts about us.
He just comes across a miserable so and so.Scholes is my favourite player of all time. As a pundit though, I can't respect anyone who makes a million excuses for Wayne Rooney but is so quick to criticize everything else going on at the club.
Most of that actually supports what Scholes was saying.
fair play to Jose, the last thing current players need is a legend going on and on about them. Jose was never the manager to back away when someone target his players, he would go war for his players and like him or hate him thats the right thing to do. SAF was always great at doing this.
Fair enough. I seem to remember Rooney reacting not too well though.
No chance. It was because we had no other way of putting those players out together
Yeah I think Scholes mentality is to win. Finishing second is failure for him I guess that is the mentality we had under SAF. Seeing what did happen after surely must have hurt them as well. It is the same with so many posters on here. When he feels bad and get frustrated he becomes very negative. Mourinho is the same and half the posters on here so it seem quite strange so many are attacking him for it. Particular if the posters saying it will have a go at some of our players as well.
The club has been mediocre for 10+ years. SAF was able to win because he is a living legend. We won the title in his final season solely because of RVP. We were playing constantly terrible football the past few years. We allowed ourselves to rely on players like Scholes, and Giggs, and Rooney for years longer than we should have because of sentiment. That is why we are in the situation we are in now.
Also interesting how these pundits said nothing about Rooney.
Yeah back in 2014 he did say Rooney was past it when he made his debut as a pundit. Rooney called him out on it soon after.
Then ever since then he changed his mind. Making every possible excuse for Wayne. So not really a good pundit is he?
We are in this situation because there was no succession plan. And this myth of terrible football is laughable - you don't win league titles by playing terrible football or just because of one player - it's a league with 38 games not a cup competition.
Both are wrong in my book.
I'd back Jose over Scholes, Neville and any other ex-legend who openly criticise players on TV. It must be so demoralising as a United player looking up to these past legends, only to find they do nothing but bitch about how shit we are. In the process of trying to appear neutral, they go too far the other way.
None of the pundits have proven themselves as a manager, so until then they don't really have a right to criticise what Jose is doing. The majority of what they talk should be taken with a pinch of salt anyway. I'm glad Jose has defended Pogba.
None of the pundits have proven themselves as a manager, so until then they don't really have a right to criticise what Jose is doing. The majority of what they talk should be taken with a pinch of salt anyway. I'm glad Jose has defended Pogba.
And its utter idiocy and a piss take
Please go back and watch how many times RVP bailed us out. Just look at our squad. It was horrendous.
Yeah except that Scholes' criticism was aimed at Jose - not Pogba. For the umpteenth time, he said Jose is not utilising Pogba's strengths and not playing him in the right position.
Don't even think Scholes' assessment is wrong.
That's not the point imo. The point is when you have a go at a manager and his players, expect the manager to hit back.
Fergie called Keane a failed manager, he called Gaz an idiot.
Nothing wrong with what Jose did, regardless of whether Scholes is right or wrong.
That's not the point imo. The point is when you have a go at a manager and his players, expect the manager to hit back.
Fergie called Keane a failed manager, he called Gaz an idiot.
Nothing wrong with what Jose did, regardless of whether Scholes is right or wrong.
Lots of posters here rightly saying Mourinho is entitle to defend his players but oddly ignoring the way he defended his player. As if the content of what Jose said is irrelevant.
It doesn't matter if Scholes is positive, negative, a good or bad pundit, you don't fabricate stories like Scholes being negative because Pogba earns lots. It's a shitty thing to do.
It doesn't matter if Scholes is positive, negative, a good or bad pundit, you don't fabricate stories like Scholes being negative because Pogba earns lots. It's a shitty thing to do.