Madrid's summer to-do list:
1) Spend 300+ million euros on a galactico shopping spree.
2) Moan about PSG's shopping spree.
3) Pressure UEFA to implement FFP 2.0.
Rinse and repeat.
Hope no clubs will be interested in their cast-offs.
Real Madrid 2017/18
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
1) Spend 300+ million euros on a galactico shopping spree.
2) Moan about PSG's shopping spree.
3) Pressure UEFA to implement FFP 2.0.
Rinse and repeat.
Hope no clubs will be interested in their cast-offs.
I think signing Sanchez has made sure that we won't sign Bale/Ronaldo etc.
Think Chelsea could get a real pestering this summer. Can see them being after Hazard and if we put our foot down regarding DDG they will be after Courtois as well. Not sure how they can fix this as they have a lot of problems. It could take a while.
Zidane is getting into serious trouble
This is how quickly everything changes in football. At the start of the season they were the bestest team set for years of domination with 2 quality 11s, now they have problems in so many areas and needs serious investment.
Is Asensio doing well? I still remember the hype surrounding him in the summer.
Think Flo wants to sell Cris and at this point most of us wouldn't be against it, so if there's a chance he'll go...i don't think there will tho
As for the others, depends on the market. We might be forced to sacrifice someone, since it's clear that the starting XI is not good enough anymore
Hope those feckers crash and burn. Still baffling what's going on there though, especially at the back off last season. Be interesting to see how they fix it.
How quickly things change when you look at some of the comments in this thread after their CL win last season.
They won the CL back-to-back because 2 years ago they faced one Europa League quality opponent after another in the knockouts (Roma, Wolfsburg, Pellegrini's City which finished on 66 points and in 4th place in the league; you would give Tottenham a great chance to beat those, nevermind Madrid) until the final where they won on penalties against Atletico. Then the season afterwards they finally get to play a serious opponent in Bayern and what happens? 2 red cards and 2 offside goals.
Not even Di Matteo had that sort of luck. Hilarious how Zidane managed to get all those accolades both as player and manager that do not reflect his true level at all. If there was something like reincarnation he must have been a Buddha in his earlier life no doubt.
Not even Di Matteo had that sort of luck. Hilarious how Zidane managed to get all those accolades both as player and manager that do not reflect his true level at all. If there was something like reincarnation he must have been a Buddha in his earlier life no doubt.
Maybe that means they are stupid? They clearly need to ship some players out, this season has proved so. The team has stagnated and they need a new injection of talent in the first team.
Hopefully they dont resolve the issue though. Seeing Madrid in disaster mode is hilarious.
Apparently release clauses are ilegal in France but i read in Madrid media that Neymar has in his contract with PSG a €222 mi release clause that only can be actived in the summer of 2019 but Madrid will try to sign him before that.
Got to love Roncero. Mad as a box of frogs.
Too early to call it a demise. They have good players and a performance drop is natural after the last two seasons they have had. They need to refresh the squad a little, and they'll be back again. They are Real Madrid, they'll always find top players vying to join them. Their net spend in the last couple of years has been very low. They'll have money to spend in the summer.
Think they'll get Griezmann in the summer.
A top goal keeper.
A new central defender.
Another midfielder after selling Kovacic.
And they'll be flying again.
Think they'll get Griezmann in the summer.
A top goal keeper.
A new central defender.
Another midfielder after selling Kovacic.
And they'll be flying again.
There's no way his release clause is exactly what they paid for him.
Think they'll buy a lot this summer. The deal between Perez and Zidane last summer was not to change the team but revamp a lot this summer if they fail again.
I really think that they will be some big changes with some big heads leaving and some coming.
Kristof Terreur, one of the best Belgian journalist told last week that both Courtois and especially Hazard are looking for a move to Madrid. Courtois's two child are in Madrid and he would like to go back there, as for Hazard he always said that he wants to leave. It's depending on Zidane, whether he'll be on the bench again or not.
Also, Fred Hermel, French Journalist, one of Zizou and Florentino's best frient told last Saturday that Griezmann will be considered this summer and the player is desperate to cross town (and not afraid to betray Atletico)
So plenty of changes for them. Add also in a WC year Perez is always trying to lure the WC best player to Madrid.
They are also talking about Icardi but I think that Griezmann will be their new number 9, with Benzema on the bench.
Then Hazad, Bale, Isco and Asensio on the wings.
Hermel told that Kroos is not fan of Madrid and would like to leave the club if the right offer comes. So I also think that they may buy a midfielder too.
I really think that they will be some big changes with some big heads leaving and some coming.
Kristof Terreur, one of the best Belgian journalist told last week that both Courtois and especially Hazard are looking for a move to Madrid. Courtois's two child are in Madrid and he would like to go back there, as for Hazard he always said that he wants to leave. It's depending on Zidane, whether he'll be on the bench again or not.
Also, Fred Hermel, French Journalist, one of Zizou and Florentino's best frient told last Saturday that Griezmann will be considered this summer and the player is desperate to cross town (and not afraid to betray Atletico)
So plenty of changes for them. Add also in a WC year Perez is always trying to lure the WC best player to Madrid.
They are also talking about Icardi but I think that Griezmann will be their new number 9, with Benzema on the bench.
Then Hazad, Bale, Isco and Asensio on the wings.
Hermel told that Kroos is not fan of Madrid and would like to leave the club if the right offer comes. So I also think that they may buy a midfielder too.
They need to ship out the likes of Lucas Vasquez and Theo Hernandez, not Ronaldo, Modric and Ramos. A few weeks ago Barcelona fans were swearing Suarez should have retired and now he's scoring for fun. Selling the best players in the team is a sure way to let your team get even worse and I have no doubt Perez will stick by these guys because it would be a terrible idea not to do it. If the young players in the team had stepped up like everyone thought they would, it would be a different matter but they didn't.
There's 0 chance Perez will sell him after this season and the fact a lot of Real Madrid fans want him to go speaks more about the fans than it does about the way he's been playing. Which is nothing new really, a month or a year from now he's God again and they'll celebrate his goals like nothing happened. You'll see news after news about him leaving because it's Ronaldo but he'll stay.
I agree with you that Perez was ready to ship him off by the way. The plan was clearly to get a bunch of new young players, keep being successful since Barcelona seemed like they were getting worse and then don't give Ronaldo a big contract and sell him when the young players were ready to take over. Now that things are as they are, there's no way he's getting sold.
Every single player in the starting XI is good enough to play for Real Madrid, they need to add more of those players and have them competing for places like last season, not replace them.
Oh god, this brings back so many memories
He even talked about winning 3-0 against PSG, the same result Boluda predicted in the "chorreo" night at Liverpool, and the wounded beast... it's like 2009 all over again, we're even facing Chelsea
Agreed, because we won't get good enough offers
He's the one that wants to leave, we're not going to bend over backwards for him, and he's not even justifying that anymore
Given that they want to buy Neymar, Hazard and Kane all in one summer I would make that rather 500M+ €.
If you actually think Perez would be stupid enough to sell Cristiano Ronaldo, who's scoring 25% of your goals when you don't have one single great attacking player in the squad that can stay fit for 5 games in a row then you're out of your mind. You won't get good enough offers because he's more valuable to you right now than any of the clubs that have the money to buy him.
He clearly doesn't want to leave and he won't leave. He definitely should have left long ago to a club that has fans that actually get behind him rather than doing the opposite at every half chance. Those same fans won't even feel a bit of shame before celebrating if he scores a couple of goals vs PSG either.
They are having a Chelsea kind of season. Their first team is largely the same, however Ronaldo has stopped scoring which was maybe papering over the cracks a little. Teams needs new energy
I don't think any club would want to pay the fees that seem to have become the norm, the market has taken a huge leap into new exorbitant territory now. What I was referring to is the Barcelona fans as the team seems to have a better balance now with Neymar gone. I agree the club threw a kind of hissy fit but I'd put that down to being completely unused to be in that position and with the other club being a PSG in particular. My main point still stands though and it was always likely that Neymar was going to leave because he didn't want to play second fiddle to Messi which he was always going to do (at least for another 2 or 3 seasons anyway).
They just weren't as interested in him and didn't want him as much as United did. Why would Real Madrid buy Pogba anyway and alter the team just to accommodate him? The team is already geared around Ronaldo.
Turan and Paulinho were bought to add depth, not to be first team starters. I'll ask again - who would Silva and Aguero have replaced in either side?
The PL is the richer league, there's no doubt about that, and money will always play its part in where a player decides to go. But...as much money as there is in the PL, no English club has a prestige and lure to match either Real or Barcelona. United come closest of course but there's still a significant gap there. As I said before - just look at the player histories of both; nearly all of the greatest players in the history of the game have played for one of them. All bar Pele really.
When it comes to the really top players, all things being equal, they'll go to one of those two imo.
Ronaldo has the exact same number of goals he had at the same time last season. Benzema has 5 less. Bale has 4 more.
Morata and James aren't there anymore though
Despite the bad results at the minute, I do think it would be crazy to fire Zidane and have to start again in the summer. It is a question of vision, direction, and new energy. Zidane is (quite rightly) a bit of a contemporary RM god, and with the structure of the club the way it is (with Perez the controller), Zidane is the ideal head coach for them.
He is Perez's blue eyed boy anyhow so I doubt he'll be fired.
He is Perez's blue eyed boy anyhow so I doubt he'll be fired.
I really hope that Kane goes to RM. He would be a massive hit. I don't see the ambition in him though. You seriously have to question any of the top Spurs players happy to pick up their 50% reduced wages. Levy has them all - from Pochettino down - well brainwashed.
I am not going to judge Madrid's season until after the PSG tie. Barcelona has been the best team in Spain, perhaps the world, this season. However, I feel its difficult to tell if Madrid's players have really fallen off. Its still possible that they've decided that as its unlikely they can win La Liga they've chosen to focus on Europa. Ancelotti's Milan team used to do this all the time. If Madrid put in a garbage performance against PSG then I think we can start drawing conclusions about them. Until then let's just see. As Madrid displayed against Depor last weekend when the players are up for it they're devastating.
Griezman to Barca is pretty much a done deal, that’s why Coutinho was given #14 as they are saving #7 for Griezman
There is a reason why they're not there, namely that they could've played like reincarnations of prime Platini and Van Basten, and still get benched for all the big games. That's why they have left, and i don't think there was a slightest chance Madrid could have brought two replacements of similar quality that would be willing to endure the same treatment.
As for Ronaldo, he has cost them a decent amount of points in the league with his abysmal chance conversion rate. You have the BPTIW, current Ballon d'Or holder playing subpar for half a season, but it's not his fault obviously, it's the fault of young players who should step up and cover for him? Interesting logic, but i disagree...The fact that he has the audacity to ask for a raise when enduring the worst form of his career is hardly going to endear him to anyone there, so I understand the fans' reaction to an extent at least.
Oh god, this brings back so many memories
He even talked about winning 3-0 against PSG, the same result Boluda predicted in the "chorreo" night at Liverpool, and the wounded beast... it's like 2009 all over again, we're even facing Chelsea
The chorreo speech was completely random.This is destined to end badly.He has asked for a raise? According to whom? The same media that have been saying the exact same thing ever since he got his last contract? Why would he even ask for a new contract now? Doesn't make any sense.
Ronaldo's form is down to him, Madrid's results aren't solely due to him or even close to it. Of course it's convenient for a lot of people to pretend that's the case but it doesn't make it true. Could have had peak Ronaldo and they'd still be nowhere near winning the league with the rest of the team playing like this and Barcelona being on fire.
Also, James and Morata didn't play the big games because the others are better. Simple as that. Or are we back to pretending Zidane should have played the bench players in the CL games and left Ronaldo, Modric, etc. on the bench like people here were saying last season? There's a reason they play and I'm still predicting them to knockout PSG this time around too.
Two Champions League wins (back 2 back, I might add) and a La Liga title....and he's getting sacked, supposedly??? 
Genuine question: has any Real Madrid manager (regardless of past achievements) ever been allowed to turn things round when going through a lean/bad spell or have they always been sacked?
Genuine question: has any Real Madrid manager (regardless of past achievements) ever been allowed to turn things round when going through a lean/bad spell or have they always been sacked?
I think he'll resign on his own to be honest.Two Champions League wins (back 2 back, I might add) and a La Liga title....and he's getting sacked, supposedly???
Genuine question: has any Real Madrid manager (regardless of past achievements) ever been allowed to turn things round when going through a lean/bad spell or have they always been sacked?
A big rebuilding job will have to be done there this summer coming and the next look like it could be their biggest in history
Secondly I don't think Zidane is the person to oversee it, he doesn't have the experience to oversee such huge changes in my opinion
He seems very one dimensional with his tactics and general stubbornness of not dropping Benzema
Secondly I don't think Zidane is the person to oversee it, he doesn't have the experience to oversee such huge changes in my opinion
He seems very one dimensional with his tactics and general stubbornness of not dropping Benzema
Every single player is underperforming and it doesn't look like it's changing anytime soon. When it reaches that point it's time for the manager to go. Freaking Leicester fired Ranieri so this isn't even that bad in comparison, any other manager would have been fired already.Two Champions League wins (back 2 back, I might add) and a La Liga title....and he's getting sacked, supposedly???
Genuine question: has any Real Madrid manager (regardless of past achievements) ever been allowed to turn things round when going through a lean/bad spell or have they always been sacked?
Yeah but come on Leicester were rocking up near the bottom of the league when Ranieri was sacked...and with all due respect, they were Leicester City. And they soon shifted Shakespeare again after the same problem resurfaced. That's the question I'm asking, are Madrid managers given the time to turn things round if players are underperforming. Yeah Madrid are struggling at the moment but I wouldn't exactly call it a crisis there.
Though I fully understand that the word 'crisis' has completely different connotations in Madrid land.
Personally I think that he has asked for it and I think he deserves it since this comes from a commitment after winning the champions.
I am confident that he will show up against PSG.
About the squad he is probably unhappy with the level of some players
He should absolutely not resign.
He deserves a chance to turn things around.
He deserves a chance to turn things around.
Where are the fans at right now with the situation @carvajal?
The problem is that he's trying the same failing gameplan game after game. If he wants to turn things around, he should start thinking on a new approach instead of letting things turn around themselves by magic (and doing 50 crosses per game)