charlenefan
Far less insightful than the other Charley
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Well done but I said players like KaneI get your point
Well done but I said players like KaneI get your point
Nah. That's simply false. He tore Brazil apart and helped set the winner up v Japan.World Cup sums up Lukaku perfectly. Scored 4 goals against Panama and Tunisia and then became invisible in all games in knockout phase .
Read the OP.One chance cost us losing 3-0 at home.....?
Wow
I'm sorry, but that's not a valid excuse. His finishing let the team down and he knows it, especially tonight. Yes, he's not sharp but clinical he has not been when as a striker of his quality, he must be putting those away, at least the one tonight. This was a clear, first half chance, not an 80th minute chance where I can understand he's on fumes.He played as many games at the World Cup as anyone and then Mourinho asked him to cut short his vacation and come back early. It was a terrible idea and the lack of sharpness we're seeing to start the season is proof of that.
The plan was for Martial to be the 9 whilst Lukaku was eased back in but he decided to go AWOL...He played as many games at the World Cup as anyone and then Mourinho asked him to cut short his vacation and come back early. It was a terrible idea and the lack of sharpness we're seeing to start the season is proof of that.
And played him in Midfield or got rid very, very quickly!Jesus Christ, he signed and played Alan fecking Smith. Get ahold of yourself.
And the complete sitter against Leicester!!Two chances he missed vs Brighton and Spurs are from the oppositions mistakes, as opposed to creating them for him. To me, that's worrying. That said, he should be scoring them.
Yes, he should have scored. The reactions are completely over the top, though.I'm sorry, but that's not a valid excuse. His finishing let the team down and he knows it, especially tonight. Yes, he's not sharp but clinical he has not been when as a striker of his quality, he must be putting those away, at least the one tonight. This was a clear, first half chance, not an 80th minute chance where I can understand he's on fumes.
Kane is a player like Kane though. He's the most player like Kane there is, and he hasn't helped his team win a single trophy.Well done but I said players like Kane
Aguero is also a player like Kane though and he hasKane is a player like Kane though. He's the most player like Kane there is, and he hasn't helped his team win a single trophy.
I suppose he'd also sit on the bench behind Bellion? Saha? Owen? Macheda? Diouf? Welbeck? Berbatov? The argument was that he wouldn't be 4th or 5th choice in ANY of Fergie's teams, which was a crock of shite.And played him in Midfield or got rid very, very quickly!
I know we dont have a RW, but do you seriously want him playing out there?Under a different manager, I think he'd be playing on the right and definitely not be an undroppable/first name on the team sheet striker.
Berbatov, Saha, Owen all score that chance.. just sayingI suppose he'd also sit on the bench behind Bellion? Saha? Owen? Macheda? Diouf? Welbeck? Berbatov? The argument was that he wouldn't be 4th or 5th choice in ANY of Fergie's teams, which was a crock of shite.
I could score a fecking open net chance, but Rom's still a better player than any of them. De Gea's gaffs at the World Cup certainly didn't turn this forum against him. In fact, loads celebrated it as it'd ward off Madrid. Every player makes mistakes, even when they're the best in the world at their position. Writing them off for it only makes you look like a dick.Berbatov, Saha, Owen all score that chance.. just saying
I like Lukaku but he lost us the game tonight. He had two huge chances and had to take them. The one after Kane's goal was just as important.I could score a fecking open net chance, but Rom's still a better player than any of them. De Gea's gaffs at the World Cup certainly didn't turn this forum against him. In fact, loads celebrated it as it'd ward off Madrid. Every player makes mistakes, even when they're the best in the world at their position. Writing them off for it only makes you look like a dick.
Agree, people are OTT, especially when the team loses. But it's unacceptable. He presented himself the opportunity after a horrific backpass by Rose and didn't punish them for it. Gotta be ruthless and your team is counting on you as the primary striker.Yes, he should have scored. The reactions are completely over the top, though.
Rom scored 27 goals in his first season with us. Zlatan scored only one more in his season, Van Persie only three more in his best season, Rooney only scored more goals twice in 13 seasons, so on and so forth. Two misses in two games and half this site have decided he's shit and half of them are the ones baying for Mourinho to be given more time despite his persistent failures. Strikers will always miss chances, but it's obviously going to be magnified when you're set up to play in a team with ZERO other attackers. He needs support and he doesn't get it too often.
He's shown he can and will score goals. Two bad moments do not define him.
26 of them were in the league though. That what it matters.Yes, he should have scored. The reactions are completely over the top, though.
Rom scored 27 goals in his first season with us. Zlatan scored only one more in his season, Van Persie only three more in his best season, Rooney only scored more goals twice in 13 seasons, so on and so forth. Two misses in two games and half this site have decided he's shit and half of them are the ones baying for Mourinho to be given more time despite his persistent failures. Strikers will always miss chances, but it's obviously going to be magnified when you're set up to play in a team with ZERO other attackers. He needs support and he doesn't get it too often.
He's shown he can and will score goals. Two bad moments do not define him.
Maybe. I may be in the minority, but I don’t think either one has ever really convinced in that role (albeit with limited opportunity, I concede). Sir Alex always had a mature striker in the squad for a reason. People like to rip Jose for wanting experienced players, but I completely understand why he does. With maturity comes consistency and reliability. They also bring calmness to the younger players in the team and help bring the best out of them. Lukaku is our senior striker and he’s arguably not even in his peak years yet. There are exceptions, of course, but we would benefit greatly from an experienced back up striker, in my opinion.Neither Martial nor Rashford ever gets a start up front unless it's an emergency. Mourinho should give them a go.
We've got inferior players, either in terms of attitude and ability compared to the days of Fergie.Agree with the OP.
I remember the start of 2012-13. We were atrocious. Anyone remember Southampton away? Southampton were far better but Van Persie won us the game by scoring with basically every shot he had.
2012-13 Van Persie puts us 1-0 up at Brighton and tonight, totally different games as a result. That’s the level you need to be at to play centre forward for Man Utd.
The team played well in the first half. Lukaku had that easy chance, plus two or three moderate chances. He should be on two or three goals this season already and it's hurting the team (because we're unable to keep a clean sheet).That wasn't an easy chance. The team can't play. It's not one man up front.
He's already on two goals. Additional perhaps. The Leicester and Brighton chances I agree. But he can't be the only one.The team played well in the first half. Lukaku had that easy chance, plus two or three moderate chances. He should be on two or three goals this season already and it's hurting the team (because we're unable to keep a clean sheet).
I do agree with you though that other players also need to be chipping in.
How many did Lukaku score last season? How many before that? Lukaku just return from vacation and obviously being rushed back to duty, obviously he is unfit, or at least not to his 100%.I'm a big fan of his and don't really like singling players out but for me tonight's game had two huge moments and he didn't deliver; the chance in the first half before half time and the chance saved by Lloris immediately after Kane's header.
I think if he had scored either one of those we would have gone on to win quite comfortably. Even if he just took the chance at 0-1 the instant response would have floored Spurs.
You don't get many clear cut opportunities in the games and you certainly can't miss a few of them when you do.