Pogba is not at his best, as Jose will not allow him to be.
Pogba told the club he wants to leave
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Don't agree really. He's bringing too much baggage with him.
Think you have to question the source on this one guys. They're just trying to make another story out of the "Pogba stripped of captaincy" story seeing as they were late to the party. As much as this could be feasible, I very much doubt anyone at their newspapers would know anything about it.
What? To flirt with other clubs?
Of course.
He's a nothing player.
Mentally, he's still a kid. If, and a big if he ever grows into a man, then we might see something out of him.
Flopping his arms around when he doesnt get a call, keeping the ball for too too long, hollywood passes for shits and giggles...
We need a yonger version of Modrić, Iniesta, Xavi, Scholesy, a player to keep the ball with ease, keep the ball moving, make players around him tick and play better.
Paul Pogba is not that player.
So, yeah, i'd be be glad to see the back of him and the media shit he brings with him.
A player like Silva is what we need.
Whoever can find one in todays market is gonna get very succesful.
And Mourinho doesn't? The manager who falls out with top players at clubs he manages. Lets not forget his drama with Hazard at the Chelsea too, would you have wanted him sold if you were a Chelsea fan?
Pogba is one of our best players, I don't know how you can argue otherwise.
Someone throttle that trouser stain Raiola and get the lad some proper guidance. Once that cancerous twats influence is reduced, maybe the "Young, Fellaini, Shaw" treatment by Jose will help get Paul's head right. World class at times, but so far I'd say he's been poor for us overall.
total rubbish
all the same, the situation is that it will take barce lots of cash. they aren't entitled to sign any player they like for peanuts
all the same, the situation is that it will take barce lots of cash. they aren't entitled to sign any player they like for peanuts
I remember I used to laugh at the political circuses of Real, Bayern and AC Milan, and thanked god that Sir Alex runs the ship and everyone wanted to serve under him, compared to the player power, manager vs board standoffs and whatnots of those three clubs.
But we’ve seemingly become that now
But we’ve seemingly become that now
Unfortunately the conditions that have been created will facilitate the cheapest of transfers for Barca if we decided to sell.
do you not think that we said the previous two managers were a disease too and said that the next manager LVG and then Mourinho would 'guarantee success'.
Just sacking a manager when the fans aren't happy and signing whoever is available regardless of continuity hasn't worked well for us.
Why do you need to bring Mourinho into this. Pogba has asked to leave and has been mouthing of since the season started. Let's say we sack Jose and things don't pick up right away with the new manager. How much time is Pogba gonna give to us fans until he decides to leave again? He's theoretically one of our best players but many times he plays like a highlight reel player.
Asked to leave according to the Sun the Mail, surely I can't doubt amazing sources like those two!
I only bring Mourinho into it because you bring up Pogba's package, when that could all easily be down to a manager who has a history fall outs like this with the best players at previous clubs. It's all connected.
Talk about worrying times, only United could go in to meltdown again in one week. Drop points against Wolves, knocked out after Brightonesque performance against Derby. Strip the second captain publicly and now this rubbish. Absolute Shambles from top to bottom.
Why do you assume the next manager won't get Pogba to like playing under him?
Sure. Ask Barca to pay 200M in January
We can all scream garbage sources all we want but history has shown once the press has it in for you, it's just a matter of time. In this case, the division has started.
Conditions are we came second last season with a title winning number of points and lost a couple of games this year, we paid 90m and he is on 200k+ with years left on his contract and he just won a world cup. The media can make up story after story all through the next 3 months we are in a fine position to demand 120m minimum
I bet you're laughing your titties offGive it Moygsie.
Well something isn't right. Perhaps the Barcelona interest has turned his head, in addition to this bad relationship with Jose? It will come out in the wash. The next transfer window could get interesting.
Pogba, with his huge ego, doesn't help himself: he's too quick to run his mouth. He's a class player, so let's hope it can smoothed out, but there certainly seems to be a problem with Pogba and Jose.
Pogba, with his huge ego, doesn't help himself: he's too quick to run his mouth. He's a class player, so let's hope it can smoothed out, but there certainly seems to be a problem with Pogba and Jose.
For now. A lot can change and if the rift continues to get worse it's easy for Barca to drive the price down if the player is willing to stir shit.
Swap him for Dembele.
Ousmane that is.
Ousmane that is.
We should let none of our talented players leave before Jose. It's hard finding these players in this current climate.
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave...
Anyone using the Daily Mail as a source should be tagline shamed.
No.
Don't think so. Look how well we managed the de gea situation. We have no reason to believe we will be forced to sell a player on a long contract for cut price.
It was a bad thing to do while being 1-0 up just after half time. Mistakes are one thing but this was completely fannying about. Maybe when you're 3-0 up you can arse about.
If true he's sulking and wanting to go back to Juve again after a telling off from the manager then he's not really for us.
If true he's sulking and wanting to go back to Juve again after a telling off from the manager then he's not really for us.
Daily Mail and the sun are like Hyenas pouncing on one story to create another, there's obviously problems between Mourinho and Pogba but they are clearly using it to their clickbait advantage, plus there's no way we should feck Pogba off before Mourinho, especially if you're trying to use this whole "disrespect" narrative as Mourinho has disrespected the club and the players more than once.
Oo-er, steady on.
It's a shame but it has been obvious since the summer. He clearly has issues with Mourinho and it's a case of big ego vs big ego. Clearly, the way we are playing is restricting his style of play, and he dosn't seem to be that type of player that will adapt his style for the manager.
At the same time we have all these ultra attacking teams in Real, Barca, City and even bloody Liverpool scoring goals for fun and actually challenging for stuff that we should challenge for. He could easily walk into the starting eleven of any team so leaving the club would benefit him. Why waste his best years struggling with United when he could move and win trophies instantly in Barcelona?
It really sucks though since he's a world class player that we are trying to make the face of the club. We've spent three seasons of trying to get the best of him by buying different midfielders to free him of responsibilities on the pitch and it seems as it has all been for nothing. All an absolute mess at the moment.
Just wish Jose would try to attack some more.
At the same time we have all these ultra attacking teams in Real, Barca, City and even bloody Liverpool scoring goals for fun and actually challenging for stuff that we should challenge for. He could easily walk into the starting eleven of any team so leaving the club would benefit him. Why waste his best years struggling with United when he could move and win trophies instantly in Barcelona?
It really sucks though since he's a world class player that we are trying to make the face of the club. We've spent three seasons of trying to get the best of him by buying different midfielders to free him of responsibilities on the pitch and it seems as it has all been for nothing. All an absolute mess at the moment.
Just wish Jose would try to attack some more.
I hope this circus moves to nou camp next summer. We get a player with a better mentality to replace him.
Nope. Pogba cant go anywhere. The club must be adamant about that. He is our best player, our leader, a winner both at club with Juventus and national team level and he is just entering his prime. Easily one of the best players in the world.
The club must strongly stand behind Pogba and sack Mourinho.
Pogba has been nothing but a model professional and a grear influence anywhere he's been. Time to sack Mourinho before its its too late cuz his 3rd season is always as bad as this.
The club must strongly stand behind Pogba and sack Mourinho.
Pogba has been nothing but a model professional and a grear influence anywhere he's been. Time to sack Mourinho before its its too late cuz his 3rd season is always as bad as this.
Even if this is true what makes you guys want to say something like good riddance? He's our best player and it is clear that he's on bad terms with manager who is underperforming big time whereas Pogbais our best player. I think it is easy to see who I'd keep here. A player with so much potential is just hold back big time by the dinosaur of a manager who will be sacked sooner or later, who wouldn't wanna get out of this shit. This is all bullshit but it's interesting to see so many strange comments of people who take it seriously but even if this is true Pogba probably only wants to put pressure on board to sack Mourinho. I'd hope Woodward see that mourinho is the big poision and pogba our future and do the right thing
Need rid of Woodward and glazer for that.
Hopefully you are right, but knowing Woody, he will go for some expensive flop.
I can see him gone for 150M, only for Woodward to replace him with Milinković-Savić for 120M
Sell him. Nobody is bigger than the club. Sell him to the highest bidder. Not enough top draw performances for me, he should be running the midfield every game.
We have to hold our hands up and say it's been a disaster.
In jose we trust.
We have to hold our hands up and say it's been a disaster.
In jose we trust.