Its horrible management to put a new signing into the shitshow that has been our season. We need to turn things around and expecting Fred to do that is asking far too much. Players that are established in the dressing room and know the league should do that.
Why did we buy Fred?
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Keita plays. Fabinho can’t displace James Milner because he’s on form.
Which Evra said he spent time in the gym getting use to the physicality and style. What’s Fred been doing? Learning how to what?
Much the same? You know he can leave the bench when the games over right?
Stop bitching man, as I say, even the likes of Tevez ans Mascherano needed time to get used to a new country, league, training etc.
It’s pretty normal, won’t stop you bitching though I guess.
Alan Pardew. Mascherano moved to Liverpool and was fine. Tevez they finally decided to play him, this has nothing to do with adapting. They was just at a crap club. Maybe that’s it. Fred’s just at a crap environment.
Can’t remember him having an Evra like game against City to be honest.
Def player in there just needs games.....
Zzzzzzzz!
He was shocking v Wolves.
Brilliant player. You can tell he’s used to playing football where he’s designed to control the ball quickly in midfield and fire it off to a forward that is making a run through channels. The sad thing is that is not existent in this united team. He still controls it and at best just gets a shout from Matic to pass it back to him or Pogba sideways.
A free flowing attacking team would be devastating with Fred
A free flowing attacking team would be devastating with Fred
Uhhh...Typical football fans tbh
2 good games = awesome player, future GOAT
2 bad games = shit player, deadwood get rid
Better judgment would be made after seeing a player settle and have a good 100 games under their belt IMO
It's a bit more than 2 bad games, it's 400% that. 8 games where nothing has happened. I could forgive him if chances were being created and he could;t put them away, that happens. But if you watch the games and what he did those games, the movement was negligible. Didn't deserve any goals tbh. He's clearly in a rut of form but I refuse to call the guy shit. He's a good player, but needs to work on certain aspects of his game.
As for the needing to wait until 100 games under their belt...well...perhaps theres a reason you're still a new member with 760 posts. Ludicrous.
Go to bed then.
He really didn’t though. Matic plays like crap every week.
Reading your post is certainly helping.
Good. I can stop reading yours for the night!
I think he had a good game today, looked fast, was always looking for the forward pass, had a few (wayward) shots at goal. Seemed decent. Definitely seems to provide more than Matic.
Well Fred has played in 6 out of 13 games if Ive counted them up correctly so I don't understand what your problem even is here.
Is playing 1 in 2 really unreasonable for someone in his position? Given we're still in October?
I'd have dropped him after Brighton but there you go.
I thought Fred was very good today.
Did well in possession, moved it quickly and worked hard. Very impressive.
Did well in possession, moved it quickly and worked hard. Very impressive.
He look like just another hustler with no vision and skill. I thought we have one already in Herrera.
You can learn there. Yeah sittong the bench works.
He does look like he has vision and skill to me.
He reminds me of Anderson for some reason.
You and I look the game in different way, I guess.
Fabinho was the MOTM last week CL and playing well in the league too yesterday.
Players need time to settle down in the new league. Should give them a season, like Lamela Spurs.
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Fabinho and Keita this season, Robertson last season.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
So yesterday was a good Fred?
I thought he was decent yesterday.
Decent performance yesterday, should have an assist but Martial decided to just not put it away
Positionally, yes. He was almost always in a correct positions to receive a pass, make an interception. Thought he was a bit slow to turnover the ball. Played a great ball for Martial, but...
I'd like to see him played as the DM with Pereira and Pogba on either side.
I reckon he is too rash to be a DM.
Needs to be deployed alongside Pogba like yesterday but as a box-to-box whereas Pogba stays further forward.
He's a fighter with drive, and we need these sort of players right now. Still finding his feet but improving all the time.
Ultimately I think he's here to speed us up in midfield.
For a new signing stepping up from a much weaker league he's had decent game time, he's shown glimpses of what he can bring but also what he currently lacks.
He will spend this season finding his feat. Against more physical opponents I expect to see him on the bench, likely unused. Against Everton, who are one of the less physical sides, he will play. He's being eased into it and that's the correct way to go about it.
For a new signing stepping up from a much weaker league he's had decent game time, he's shown glimpses of what he can bring but also what he currently lacks.
He will spend this season finding his feat. Against more physical opponents I expect to see him on the bench, likely unused. Against Everton, who are one of the less physical sides, he will play. He's being eased into it and that's the correct way to go about it.
Still bothers me how I think he's Nani whenever he's out wide.
Other than that he's doing fine. Big step up and he's being eased into it. Not great, but not terrible.
Other than that he's doing fine. Big step up and he's being eased into it. Not great, but not terrible.
Excellent post in its simplicity. There is no problem with Fred, other than Caf members thinking he would revamp our midfield at once. Too high expectations. He is doing as well as would be expected IMO.
He made 3 tackles.
Pogba, Matic, Martial and Mata made 0 between them. Martial did make 1 interception, the rest made 0 again.
And Rashford did make 1 tackle from up front.
So yeah, aside from Fred our entire midfield and wings didnt win the ball a single time.
Other than that he made a few good runs forward starting from deep. Fred's average position was right next to Matic, both behind Pogba. And he made 2 key passes on top of that.
All in all he was a very important player yesterday I thought. Making the runs forward seemed to free up Pogba and making 3 tackles meant we didnt suffer as much with Matic running around but ultimately doing a terrible job as a ball winner/dm.
Pogba, Matic, Martial and Mata made 0 between them. Martial did make 1 interception, the rest made 0 again.
And Rashford did make 1 tackle from up front.
So yeah, aside from Fred our entire midfield and wings didnt win the ball a single time.
Other than that he made a few good runs forward starting from deep. Fred's average position was right next to Matic, both behind Pogba. And he made 2 key passes on top of that.
All in all he was a very important player yesterday I thought. Making the runs forward seemed to free up Pogba and making 3 tackles meant we didnt suffer as much with Matic running around but ultimately doing a terrible job as a ball winner/dm.
He played as a DM plenty of times for Shakhtar and Guardiola supposedly saw him as the long term replacement for Fernandinho at City.
He is a bit rash at times but no more so than Herrera, who was brilliant in his one season as a DM. I personally prefer DMs of that style, like Kante, who actively press, tackle and intercept the opposition rather than the passive variety like Matic.