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The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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Then ignore me. Don't make up shit like I worship mourinho. I just said I want our manager, whoever it fecking is to challenge Woodward on sticking his nose out of footballing matters, or insist there to be a DoF in place before signing.
What has Mata done to him? Last night it would have been perfect to bring him on, someone with a bit of guile and can take freekicks. Instead he brings his big lumps on and all momentum goes.
Tell us how Woodward interfered with LVG and Moyes which you were going on about in first post. The Mueller and Bale bit to be precise
He inteferred with Jose which is the main point you want to ignore.
Worth Moyes for example he failed on multiple players despite the managee being under the impression they're done. Moyes was made to think Kroos and Bale were as good as done and they weren't (Google it).
I'm not a Mourinho apologist if I want an enept CEO challenged for feck sake.
100% truth. Mourinho spends half his time whining & trying to convince he's gods gift to us for miraculously beating inferior sides. Why would you believe the nonsense he sprouts?
Imagine if you were awesome at making hamburgers & one day your boss is like, nah i want you to make fries even though you aren't good at it. And then as you struggle he continues to throw you under the bus instead of just letting you make hamburgers. I'd be like my boss is an idiot & feel demotivated. Exactly what is happening here. Should Pogba try harder probably, but the bigger issue is our manager not knowing how to bring the best out in his players
Nope, you're a mourinho apologist if you don't like Pogba. At least that's the way it's gone for me last night even though I never mentioned Jose originally before people started demanding a comparison from me.
Honestly seems like the press are more baffled/annoyed by Uniteds current predicament than half the Old Trafford crowd at this stage. Proper weird.
So, Sir Bobby was right about Jose after all. Hard to understand how anyone can defend Jose. Look at the results (points, position, GD), our general play, his antics, his comments.
None of our players hit any form. He made more changes than any other manager. After 2.5 years, he still does not know what our best line up is. His signings are not integrated or playing well. He throws players under the bus, one after the other, while he's to blame for most of the shit we currently see. He should have been fired weeks ago. Why the club allows this to happen is a disgrace.
None of our players hit any form. He made more changes than any other manager. After 2.5 years, he still does not know what our best line up is. His signings are not integrated or playing well. He throws players under the bus, one after the other, while he's to blame for most of the shit we currently see. He should have been fired weeks ago. Why the club allows this to happen is a disgrace.
I agree with that, but it's just not nearly enough imo. Honestly I think we would have been much better if he wasn't so hellbent on changing the lineups for every game.
Everyone's baffled with inconsistent results.....play a settled team for the love of all things football. I never understand why managers think they can just throw different teams together all the time. Yeah there are forced changes due to injury but Mourinho is worse than Caludio Ranieri at the momemnt. All his success came from building settled sides. Settled tacktics. Now its throw out a different team each week with a different system. What is going on.
Challenged for not getting Kroos and Bale for Moyes? Mueller for LVG? I'm sorry but this is just stupid. You seem to want justify all the excuses made by our failed managers in your bid to make it align with your Jose excuses . I told you to also explain how he interfered with Jose you haven't . By interfering you mean not getting fecking Maguire or selling Martial for Willian? And these are supposed to somehow be a reason for the shit these 3 guys have served us? There's enough to slate Woody for,hes inept at a lot of things without resorting to talking pure rubbish. How can a sensible person be talking about LVG not getting anything after the disaster that was almost every LVG signing(same thing for Jose). Even Fergie couldn't get Bale and yet Woody should be getting slated for not getting Bale for Moyes? Do you even think about the shit you post? How was he supposed to do this for feck sake?
Nah its not enough. It was just a pleasant suprise as I was expecting a pasting after the crap we served in the CP and Soton games
The usual Mourinho apologists are out in force again with horrendously bias illogical posts, fab. Anyhow, 3 points out of 12 = winning.
Without Fathead Maguire, it’s the best we can expect. Or so my Stockholm Syndrome tells me.
Conversely, the people that have wanted Mourinho out for months now are 'haters'. You don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot.
Aye £70m for a bang average defender would have us at least 3 points clear at the top of the league.
Yep, Woody interfered with Jose by refusing to get Maguire and now we're doomed for life
I've become numb to it all. I know it's months away till Jose goes, so I'm not really expending too much energy in being annoyed. I want us to win games, but we're clearly not capable of putting in performances that'll turn it around in Jose favour. He's a dead man walking, has been since the summer.
I haven’t heard a peep about him since the summer. Almost like he’s not all that after all.
Days after a story appears from the manager's mouthpiece that the manager called the player a virus - no, it's not an independent thing. It's disingenuous to pretend these are not related.
Also, it's high fecking time that Old Trafford should also voice their displeasure with the absolute shit performance of the manager, instead of continuing to blindly support him.
Another 2 points dropped at home against one of our rivals. Subs killed the tempo of the game. Bailly showed why he should be our first choice CB but Mourinho doesnt like him. Thought Darmian was solid, Matic fecking terrible. I cant even think about Lukaku
Ouch. That's possibly the most damning criticism of our season so far.
His post match conference is a gem. "We should have won, we were a better side", "Arsenal came here for a draw", "Arsenal played for a draw"…
Yeah it was somewhat entertaining at least.
He was a disaster waiting to happen all game? I suppose if you want Jose gone sooner, yeah ideal.
Well he’s only played 4-5 games this season. No surprise. Still looked our best defender. Looked the best defender on the pitch. Imagine if he actually played week in week out.
He never was, ever. All that England team were elevated to god-like status after a jammy run at the WC.
He's some man for one man, I'll give him that much. I can't even get annoyed anymore, it's just resignation that we will continue to be a complete embarrassment on and off the pitch as long as he's here.
I don't suppose it has dawned on Jose, that Ed might have tried to sign who he wanted, but they might not want to play for Jose. It won't of even entered his head.
Fair point, he's hardly played. Maybe if he can get a proper run of games we'll see his true form, but chances of that seem slim.
I can only speak for myself. Nothing disingenuous about it at all. Not sure how you can tell me why I might boo someone?
Honestly watching UTD nowadays has become a chore, sure I never miss a game but Mourinho has killed any charm of watching UTD play.
Matic got man of the match on BT sport by Steve McManaman
Is probably true. But someone who thinks Pogba is at no fault at all (and I accept Mourinho plays a role in making Pogba disillusioned) for demonstrating a lack of commitment and effort, is also off the mark too.
They are both lamentable people for different reasons. Sure I agree the correct fix initially is to keep Pogba and ship Mourinho, just because Pogba is class and he might play better under the right manager and hey, us fans are fickle. But doesn’t change the fact that, right now, he’s pretty fecking deplorable.
Can't argue with any of that.
its special indeed.
But hey its all Woodward's fault. If only we signed Toby for 70m then I am sure we'll defend better, win more balls in midfield, we'll create more chances and Lukaku would finally learn how to play football.
I feel anyone who's still backing Mourinho at this point is actively against the club.
I made that point multiple times and it's not even about Mourinho. If you target players that are playing for managers, cities, clubs that they like you will need to convince them that it's beneficial for them to move. While United can offer more money than most clubs, we don't offer a lot more than other big clubs and at the moment we don't offer any guarantee of big trophies either.
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