Lukaku : Bulking up with muscle hurt me

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Which stupid moron advised Lukaku to put on weight for Belgium? That guy should be let go from their coaching setup. What a silly thing to do. Also Lukaku has been an idiot too, he already had all the physical prowess needed, all he had to do was improve his first touch to improve his hold up play and his ability to play with his back towards the opposition goal, not put on muscle mass.
 

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Everyone, looses weight for the world cup, this lad thinks the opposite, and the funny thing is, the medical and physio department at the club has no problems with him gaining muscle and weight. Just when he started to get exposed, the reactiveness took over to set things right.
 

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I actually think him bulking up now is just him finally growing into his grown man body. This is how big he is supposed to be as a grown ass man and I think he has to work incredibly hard to not only get himself in moderate shape but also to sustain that for long periods. Something got to give though, either he has to change his game completely and I'm not sure he is good enough technically to force a new path (all though his mentality says otherwise) or he has to drastically change his physique with heavy training and an eating regime.
 

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We could spot the difference from another plane. Glad he's realized it and is working on it.
 

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It sounds like he just got fat. "A little bit of muscle".

I'd rather he just be honest about not being in good shape as opposed to going along with the bulking for international duty nonsense. The only football where too much bulk is useful is League 2 or whatever Akinfewa is in. So maybe this is just PR story to put a spin on his dietary misstep.
 

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How did the extra muscle help him in international football? The whole thing sounds like bollocks. His best shape was his last year at Everton. You don't need to be bulky to be strong. Just look at Drogba and Mandzukic. I'm no footballer but when I lost just a few kgs, everything about my game improved. The extra weight affects a player's balance and agility and even plays a part in his first touch and control.

When he loses his extra weight and gets fit, he'll be back scoring goals and contributing positively to the team. But till then, it's better if he stays on the bench.
 

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It sounds like he just got fat. "A little bit of muscle".

I'd rather he just be honest about not being in good shape as opposed to going along with the bulking for international duty nonsense. The only football where too much bulk is useful is League 2 or whatever Akinfewa is in. So maybe this is just PR story to put a spin on his dietary misstep.
I agree, he just looks overweight as a big soft lump, theres no definition or shape to him.
 

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Hit the elliptical for a couple of weeks and we'll see you back in the team for the Christmas period.
 

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Something doesn't add up here. You don't put on muscle that quickly nor get rid of it the way he's supposedly going about it. Severe caloric deprivation and not water and rest will lead to that.
 

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Was he also asked to lose his first touch?
 

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Was he also asked to lose his first touch?

Even at Everton he didn’t have a good first touch. You can’t bring something back he never had. He can work on it though.
 

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It seems that the club and him only needed half of the season to realise it. Good for them.
 

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Let's see if his touch and hold up improves once he loses this "extra muscle".

Though you have to say that the guy can talk a good game and has an answer or an excuse for everything. He'll one day make a 'good' shit manager.
 

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Wonder who's it in the Belgium setup that looked at Lukaku and fecking went "This guy needs to put on muscle" to do well.
 

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He looks like he's got bigger still since the World Cup so I'm not sure I buy this. Still, what the hell were our coaches doing allowing it?
 

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Key point about the multiple tests that he has been undergoing with the medical staff during this whole time. The whole club knew he is not ready for competition. Lukaku knew he personally is not fit enough to be on a football field. Mourinho himself definitely would have been pestered by all the reports of his physical examinations. Every. One. At the club has known for the past 3 months that Lukaku should not be playing football.

Why on God’s earth has he been put on a football pitch as much as he has been in the past 3 months?? Baffling. The only explanation I can think of is Mourinho digesting all this information from the medical staff and choosing to completely deny science and inadvertently embarrass an out of shape Lukaku on the field week in week out.

It’s a great interview, well said about a lot of things but it really just made the situation even more bizarre tbh.
 

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Even at Everton he didn’t have a good first touch. You can’t bring something back he never had. He can work on it though.
we spent 75m on a striker who needs to work on his first touch....special signing from the special one
 

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We've had a number of players looking "swole" in recent years.
 

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I actually think him bulking up now is just him finally growing into his grown man body. This is how big he is supposed to be as a grown ass man and I think he has to work incredibly hard to not only get himself in moderate shape but also to sustain that for long periods. Something got to give though, either he has to change his game completely and I'm not sure he is good enough technically to force a new path (all though his mentality says otherwise) or he has to drastically change his physique with heavy training and an eating regime.
This is a good point.
 

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Which stupid moron advised Lukaku to put on weight for Belgium? That guy should be let go from their coaching setup. What a silly thing to do. Also Lukaku has been an idiot too, he already had all the physical prowess needed, all he had to do was improve his first touch to improve his hold up play and his ability to play with his back towards the opposition goal, not put on muscle mass.
Lukaku tried to do the Shaquille O'Neal. Put on more weight/muscle to make it impossible for CBs to stop him. Suprisingly such a strategy does not translate well from the NBA to football.

As you correctly state; Lukaku already had enough muscle to beat defenders(too much in my eyes). His two biggest problems appart from his touch are timing and positioning. His lack of competence in these areas are clearly visible on the pitch. The amount of duels he loses to smaller/weaker CBs is too high, and this is due to his positioning before the duel and that he times his jump wrong. If he can fix these shortcomings then he could potentialy be a starting striker for a title winning team. Suarez and Lewandoski are two players Lukaku should study.
 

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Lukaku tried to do the Shaquille O'Neal. Put on more weight/muscle to make it impossible for CBs to stop him. Suprisingly such a strategy does not translate well from the NBA to football.

As you correctly state; Lukaku already had enough muscle to beat defenders(too much in my eyes). His two biggest problems appart from his touch are timing and positioning. His lack of competence in these areas are clearly visible on the pitch. The amount of duels he loses to smaller/weaker CBs is too high, and this is due to his positioning before the duel and that he times his jump wrong. If he can fix these shortcomings then he could potentialy be a starting striker for a title winning team. Suarez and Lewandoski are two players Lukaku should study.
Don't think he can improve those aspects of his game tbh, unlike first touch and passing which you can somewhat improve with training, those you've mentioned gotta come naturally imo.
 

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I actually think him bulking up now is just him finally growing into his grown man body. This is how big he is supposed to be as a grown ass man and I think he has to work incredibly hard to not only get himself in moderate shape but also to sustain that for long periods. Something got to give though, either he has to change his game completely and I'm not sure he is good enough technically to force a new path (all though his mentality says otherwise) or he has to drastically change his physique with heavy training and an eating regime.
Yeah, if he's a fecking weightlifter.
 

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He looks like he's got bigger still since the World Cup so I'm not sure I buy this. Still, what the hell were our coaches doing allowing it?
I agree with this, his weight issues have become more noticeable as the season has gone on. For our medical staff and physios to let this slide is inexplicable.
 

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Don't think he can improve those aspects of his game tbh, unlike first touch and passing which you can somewhat improve with training, those you've mentioned gotta come naturally imo.
It doesn't come naturally, it's the type of things that you work on a daily basis from a relatively young age. Good coaching and lots of repetition could improve it but if he doesn't have it at 25 years old, he will most likely never reach a high level in those particular areas for the simple reason that it's near impossible to substitute 10 years of training. Most things in football are the fruit of dozens of thousands of proper repetitions.
 

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Don't think he can improve those aspects of his game tbh, unlike first touch and passing which you can somewhat improve with training, those you've mentioned gotta come naturally imo.
It can be "trained", but is more down to understanding and not "muscle memory" as first touch and passing are. But first someone has to identify these problems for him, and seeing the lack of improvements generally in the squad it does not seem to be someone at the club actively trying to improve/help the players. And that the players improvement is to a large extent up to themselves.
 

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Mind-boggling that a professional football club at the elite level can overlook something as fundamental as whether or not the player is in the optimal condition to play football and also not have an inkling as to what is the right shape for that player to be at their best.
 

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It doesn't come naturally, it's the type of things that you work on a daily basis from a relatively young age. Good coaching and lots of repetition could improve it but if he doesn't have it at 25 years old, he will most likely never reach a high level in those particular areas for the simple reason that it's near impossible to substitute 10 years of training. Most things in football are the fruit of dozens of thousands of proper repetitions.
I didn't say it's quite impossible, but as you've said it, it's rather improbable he'll ever be able to do it on a level that's required for a top team. But I disagree with a notion that it doesn't have to come naturally, because it's really really hard to drill positional / spatial awareness into someone.

It can be "trained", but is more down to understanding and not "muscle memory" as first touch and passing are. But first someone has to identify these problems for him, and seeing the lack of improvements generally in the squad it does not seem to be someone at the club actively trying to improve/help the players. And that the players improvement is to a large extent up to themselves.
But as I've said above, not impossible but it's really hard to drill positional / spatial awareness into someone
 

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It doesn't come naturally, it's the type of things that you work on a daily basis from a relatively young age. Good coaching and lots of repetition could improve it but if he doesn't have it at 25 years old, he will most likely never reach a high level in those particular areas for the simple reason that it's near impossible to substitute 10 years of training. Most things in football are the fruit of dozens of thousands of proper repetitions.
I didn't say it's quite impossible, but as you've said it, it's rather improbable he'll ever be able to do it on a level that's required for a top team. But I disagree with a notion that it doesn't have to come naturally, because it's really really hard to drill positional / spatial awareness into someone, it's more instinctual.

It can be "trained", but is more down to understanding and not "muscle memory" as first touch and passing are. But first someone has to identify these problems for him, and seeing the lack of improvements generally in the squad it does not seem to be someone at the club actively trying to improve/help the players. And that the players improvement is to a large extent up to themselves.
But as I've said above, not impossible but it's really hard to drill positional / spatial awareness into someone because it depends more on person's instincts.
 

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Hope I'm wrong, but he will have some serious weight problems when he retires. When he can look like this in his prime years with professional diet and training, can only imagine what will happen when he becomes more relaxed and older.
 

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Mind-boggling that a professional football club at the elite level can overlook something as fundamental as whether or not the player is in the optimal condition to play football and also not have an inkling as to what is the right shape for that player to be at their best.
Our club is behind on so many areas that this should not be suprising. One a positive note: New people coming in(DoF(we can dream), manager, coaches) can easily find elements to improve.