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Yagami

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Shame to see our own fans disrespecting our former manager.

Yes, his time here can be associated with failure, but he certainly brought us back to champions league.

Thank you Jose, good luck on your future endeavors.
He's constantly disrespected our club since, at the very earliest, the Sevilla game. Respect is a two way street.
 

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It's a demise of once great manager. No elite club will take him now certainly not any one of top6 in England and top3 In Spain.

As of now I only think inter could take him back.
 

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Obviously a manager can make it very easy to "get sacked", though that would be highly unprofessional behavior. While players get away with it, I am not sure that the same goes for the manager.

Poch doesn't look the type who would do it. If we want him we should talk with him, and assuming that he wants to come (big assumption) then talk with Spurs in order to release him from his contract.
I have asked this before, but I still tapping up managers not illegal or is it different than with players, remember Poch doesn’t have an agent.
 

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Some points on Jardim from people who know a bit more about Jardim than the others. I remember looking him up and thinking he might be a great fit, but he's not going to base his team around attack.
You can't make that statement. He could base the team around attack if you give him offensive weapons. He is just not going to go out of his way to force an attacking mindset on players that are not suitable, same thing with defensive football.
 

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It has to be Jardim.

If I'm not mistaken he was about to take a job 2 weeks ago but then it got cancelled shortly after it was reported. Surely United aren't that incompetent to sack Jose without having a manager lined up.
 

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Sky doing a recap of his management moments this season. Jesus he really is an unstable imbecile.

That post-match shite after Spurs wasn't something else.
 

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Na, I reckon we go for Klopp. He seems ready for a big club.
absolutely no chance, top of league and still in cl. maybe in a few years. in the meantime you need someone competent and likebable. poch would be ok.
 
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So you keep saying, but actually that's not accurate.

Anyhow, the point is that it's delusional to imagine that Pochettino, just one year after signing a new, long-term contract, is going to abandon Spurs and (likely) CL football next season to come manage a dysfunctional mess in the Europa League.
You have an over inflated opinion of your club. By whatever barometer you want to use Utd, are far bigger and successful than Spurs. If it's actually that Utd have won more in 3 years than spurs have in 26 years - then I apologise... the point remains.

Contracts mean very little, just so that either side can get compensation if they move. I assume he wasn't out of contract when he went from Southamotion to spurs? So you know how it works.
 

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I have asked this before, but I still tapping up managers not illegal or is it different than with players, remember Poch doesn’t have an agent.
I honestly don't have any idea, but tapping happens anyway, and no one really cares about it.

I don't want Poch at all, but if United wants him, the way forward is to talk with him and Spurs, not to push him on leaving Spurs by making them sack him. That would be if not illegal then at least a cnutish behavior, plus any self-respecting manager wouldn't do it anyway.
 

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He will get a big club again Madrid Milan or the like
Quite possible.
Anyway. He is gone now which was the right thing to happen although it gives me no pleasure to say that as in effort we are back to square one.

Also gone are any of the excuses from any of the players. Most have underperformed and Jose took the flack.
Whoever is appointed, they now have to man up and perform.
 

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The really important appointment now is director of football. Only a lunatic would want to work here in current structure...job is a poisoned chalice. Fix that first, then look for a manager.
 

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I bet Giggs is kicking himself for not staying on as a coach. He’d have six months to prove himself now.
 

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Quite gutted truth be told, I thought he'd give it everything to get us back to the top, showing he's still a world class managed. Was give a 3 year contract to build the club up again and wasn't fully backed in the summer (within his original contract), we are in a poor state from top to bottom, this isn't just Mourinho at fault, the players have been shocking also and struggle with things that are a given as a professional footballer, like passing a football to a teammate.

A new manager won't make the likes of Lukaku, Lingard, Fellaini, Jones, Rojo and Matic brilliant players and that's 3/4 of a football teams spine.

Edit: this to me seems like acceptance from Ed and the board that we'll be knocked out by PSG and wouldn't get top 4. Hopefully they spend the rest of the season getting the club in shape with a decent plan.
Mourinho did sign two of those players for massive fees and the rest he gave new contracts too

His squad building has been really poor
 

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Shame to see our own fans disrespecting our former manager.

Yes, his time here can be associated with failure, but he certainly brought us back to champions league.

Thank you Jose, good luck on your future endeavors.
It was a bigger shame to see him disrespecting the club with his "football heritage" speech and flirting with PSG to secure a new deal.
 

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You can't make that statement. He could base the team around attack if you give him offensive weapons. He is just not going to go out of his way to force an attacking mindset on players that are suitable, same thing with defensive football.
Fair enough, didn't take the right things out of those posts, then. :P
 

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I honestly don't have any idea, but tapping happens anyway, and no one really cares about it.

I don't want Poch at all, but if United wants him, the way forward is to talk with him and Spurs, not to push him on leaving Spurs by making them sack him. That would be if not illegal then at least a cnutish behavior.
Agreed.
 

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Right decision by the club.

Now I'd like to see us modernise our approach. Fergie was a one-off, there's no-one in today's game who can do what he did. The club is simply too big and in expecting Moyes and his successors to do it the board (including Fergie himself) underestimated how key SAF was to the club's success.

I'd love to replace Fergie with someone else that good, but in the absence of a candidate capable of performing all the roles Fergie did we should be splitting that managerial role down, as many clubs have, and adopting a Director of Football/Head Coach model. I honestly think that in the long term, doing that, and hiring the right DoF, will be more important that who our next 'manager' is.
 

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Well, this is exciting news! I'm actually pleasantly surprised it's happened before the winter transfer window.
 

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I hope the club does things properly. We should get the ship in order with a DoF over the next few months, a well thought out managerial appointment that will be progressive and a clear list of top young transfer targets for the summer etc.
Yes, this. We cannot botch it again. We cannot just simply look for the manager with the best CV.
 

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This is true, but unemployment is not the same to him as it is to us. Losing your job in the real world can be crippling financially and really ruin you. Jose walks away with a £24m payout.
That's for lawyers to decide, i think it could be a lot less if they can prove in court that Mourinho bad mouthed and disrespected the club in public. Still, the man has earned massive amounts of money over the years, once he said he only needed some of it to help his children buy a house one day. After Porto, Chelsea (two times), Madrid and United it should be possible without question. :smirk:

Again, it's not only about money. The man has to find something new to do in his free time and celebrating the day he can't do what he loves anymore is over the top, IMO. Sack him and move on, no need for a big celebration
 

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It won't be one of the CO92, and most of Fergie's ex-players have been relative failures as managers. Surely must be Blanc, presumably with Carrick & McKenna staying on in coaching roles (perhaps one of them appointed as assistant - or maybe another coach/former player eg Evra joining Blanc).
 

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Obviously a manager can make it very easy to "get sacked", though that would be highly unprofessional behavior. While players get away with it, I am not sure that the same goes for the manager.

Poch doesn't look the type who would do it. If we want him we should talk with him, and assuming that he wants to come (big assumption) then talk with Spurs in order to release him from his contract.
He doesn't even have to get himself sacked. All he has to do is say he wants to leave.

Then Levy or whoever is running the club has to make the decision if they want to keep a manager who doesn't have his heart in the job against his will. And then consider the potential effect it will have on the squads morale and attitude if it gets out that there manager wanted to go.

You can strong hand a player to stay but the guy leading your entire group, is a different matter.
 

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It has to be Jardim.

If I'm not mistaken he was about to take a job 2 weeks ago but then it got cancelled shortly after it was reported. Surely United aren't that incompetent to sack Jose without having a manager lined up.
It looks to me as if they're after Pochettino in the summer (I doubt they will get him) and just wanted Mourinho out to remove his toxicity, placate players who are thinking of leaving and to start putting things in place (e.g. a director of football). The season is a write-off now anyway, it was once they didn't sack him a couple of months ago, so the important thing is to reset the club (as Neville said) and aim to be more competitive and exciting next season.
 
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