Tuanzebe was 17 in November 2014, a few months after LvG took over. At the same age, de ligt was playing for Ajax first team and Varane for Lille (and a year later was playing for Madrid). Given how talented everyone says he is, age is not an excuse for LvG not to give him minutes even in his first season in charge.
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Great stuff! The ideal scenario would be Villa getting promoted and keeping him on loan for next season.
Think we could probably do with him ourselves if he keeps up this form.
Exactly - charity begins at home
We need to get rid Jones etc to free up some space for him.
Glad to see he is getting plenty of playing time.
spot on. Some people are all too eager to re write history when it comes to LVG and our youth players
Its not just arguable. His development would gain nothing being just a bench option or being in the chop and chamge nature of my our current defence. His loan will do wonders for his career.
I don't see how he is worse than any of our centre backs.
I have some sympathy for Mourinho, but when we play with the likes of Jones,Rojo and Bailly who have underperformed, and this kid is doing really well on loan, he's obviously not doing himself any favours.
I'd fetch him back January 1st.
Shaw-Axel-Smalling-Dalot would be a breath of fresh air.
I have some sympathy for Mourinho, but when we play with the likes of Jones,Rojo and Bailly who have underperformed, and this kid is doing really well on loan, he's obviously not doing himself any favours.
I'd fetch him back January 1st.
Shaw-Axel-Smalling-Dalot would be a breath of fresh air.
I'd rather we played him with Lindeloff or Bailly.
I think it depends on the opposition, but I have little faith in Bailly, I don't mind Lindelof though.
Bout time we had a successful loan for once. Last one I can remember was Welbeck.
Lingard did well on loan. So did Michael Keane.
Pereira was also good for Granada.
You understand that maybe one of the conditions to let him on loan to some club was for that team to play him regularly and give him constant minutes?
if he is better than all of our CBs as the poster claimed, then that shouldnt have been a difficult criterion for many PL clubs to meet.
There's a big difference between is he better now and was he better before this season had started, right?
and that big difference would have been covered in less than half a season playing in the championship?
Consistent run of games can do wonders for young players, just ask Shaw and Martial. They both went from "fekin useless, sell them ASAP" to being our best players.
I'm sure he was injured most of that season, if I am remembering correctly
He is getting some valuable experience in a very important stage of his career. I have been watching a few games and the lad is doing well. Hopefully he can stay fit and keep starting every game. I rate him highly and expect him to become important for us in the future and I hope I am not wrong. Personally I can't see how Lindelöf was an upgrade on him and I have zero clue how Jones gets picked ahead of him but it is what it is. How things turned out at the moment is better for Axel anyways as he is playing a lot and hopefully the lad will have a good year, so far, so good.
True about lingard, albeit there was quite a few. Fair about Keane too, although we sold him.
So your argument is to say that 2 players who were more developed at the same age were getting games for inferior teams with far less options in inferior & far less physical leagues? Players don't follow a set development path like they do in football manager, just because some players are ready at 17 doesn't mean they all should be & just because 1 player is better at 17 doesn't mean they will be as adults. How many 17 year olds do you see playing in the Premiership never mind 17 year old cbs? Fact is he was on the bench for 1 of the biggest clubs in the world at 17 & would have played later in that season had in not been for injuries so the point you seem to be trying to make is a flawed 1 from the beginning.
Looks the real deal. Had high hopes for him a couple of years ago. Really glad to see he’s developing nicely. Bring him back and bring in a top CB and ship some dead weight (looking at you Jones) and we’ll be in a much better place at the back.
Very glad to see he has been developing. The lad is very composed and mature for his age, looks to have a good mind and body for a defender.
Cleverley was superb when he was out on loan too. If I'm not wrong he scored 1o+ goals in championship.
I am a fan of his but, not getting excited.
We're a terribly run football club
We're a terribly run football club
All you are posting are excuses, ifs and maybes. The indisputable fact is that he didnt get a single minute under LvG.
You cannot say LvG is far superior to Mourinho in letting academy youths into the first team when a player that didnt get a single minute in 2 seasons under LvG, got 4 appearances and even a start in Mourinho's first season.
Those same excuse being raised for LvG now would be denied for Mourinho if the roles were reversed
All I'm posting are facts but why let reality get in the way, maybe you're right & he should have played him before he was ready or while he wasn't fit
I'm so excited by him. I remember that performance against Arsenal when he had a top rate Sanchez in his pocket.
Great news he is getting game time at Villa and seemingly putting in good performances. Some may disagree, but I'd bring him back in Jan if possible and if we had a manager that would reward good performances with starts (I.e. not Jose)
Why couldn't you if it's the truth?
One player isn't exactly a good sample size, especially with such flawed arguments.Not even on the bench vs Leeds today, despite some very good performances recently
Injured or is he about to be recalled by United?
Injured or is he about to be recalled by United?
I may be selfish but God I hope for this. With Rojo getting sold most probably I'll love Tuanzebe to come over and start working under Ole.
Out for several weeks.
Thanks for clarifying. Just seen a news update that it was a foot injury sustained in training
I'd still like to recall him. Afraid we can't rely on Rojo and Jones to stay fit, while I'd like to have 4 CBs in the squad
Recall him to sit on the bench
I hope we dont, he is doing well and needs to learn and look for his career. Next summer we can evaluate and see whats going on squad wise at the CB position.
You put 2 and 2 together and made 5 their chief.Recall him to sit on the bench
I hope we dont, he is doing well and needs to learn and look for his career. Next summer we can evaluate and see whats going on squad wise at the CB position.
Assuming we offload Jones and Rojo, Tunzebe would be one of 4 defenders along with Smalling, Lindelof and Bailley. Of those other 3, Smalling is the only 'established' defender that generally plays when fit, but there is a large body of fans who believe he can be improved upon.
With a clean slate to the team under Ole, Tunzebe has the chance to become a starter at CB. I believe he is deserving of a United start
We wont offload Jones and Rojo in winter, nobody is that desperate. Jones is currently starting, and the games will come thick and fast. Now that Ole is our manager for 5 months, people go completely crazy. Rojo will get his chance too, i dont think he will rush to let the academy kids play. I dont see an issue with him staying at Villa til the end fo the season and depending on the summer, maybe even another loan next season in the PL. As long as he develops and plays to his level, there is no need to rush things.
Arsenal are having a defensive injury crisis and I believe Emery was interesting in Rojo for PSG. We need to look to offload him and Jones as their injury record is appaling
I digrrssing frok the thread however. Regarding Tunzebe, I agree with the principle that there is no point recalling if he isn't going to get game time. I'm just of the opinion that he is good enough to be considered for a starting berth alongside our underperforming defenders.
That simply isn’t happening. Even if your scenario plays out, Lindelof, Smalling and Bailey would still be above him in the pecking order.
Let the lad develop in a competitive league where he’s going to play as many minutes as possible.