Jose Mourinho questions Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's long-term impact at Manchester United

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It's just so refreshing to see Ole credit the players, his staff for all our good performances while everything was about mourinho.

I'm sure even if he miraculously achieved the same result, he'd go out of his way to make it all about himself. Case in point Juve away this season.
 

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The only thing Jose should now be questioning is 'what big club will ever touch me again?'.

Whatever that guy once had, he has fully lost now!
 

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The only thing Jose should now be questioning is 'what big club will ever touch me again?'.

Whatever that guy once had, he has fully lost now!
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Joke's on you. he'll be going to the circus of Madrid, a club, like chelsea, made for him.
 

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Each victory is a nail to Mou's career coffin
 

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Jose's words today in Bein sports as a pundit.

“Can [Fulham] get a better manager than Claudio? Not at all,” Mourinho said.

“Can you compare the experience between Claudio and Scott, who is going to coach a team for the first time? Not at all.

“But sometimes in football, and you have the example with my former club (Man Utd hiring Solskjaer), that sometimes changes on the immediate - I don’t believe too much in these changes in the long term - but these changes on the immediate, there are sometimes some positive results."
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He is a bit of a joke now. I was a massive fan.. but he has lost touch with reality. He has never been at any club 'long term'. EVER.
 

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This is the difference between the 2 managers.
 

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OGS could teach Mourinho and a certain Mr Ince a little bit about the value of humility and positivity as a leader. What OGS has done is just remarkable and Mourinho should have the sense to take time off. How come Mourinho is so special if he manages to get sacked by Real,Chelsea and United and doing so by getting most players against him also. Now we need OGS to take us into the future and keeping in mind when Ince said anybody could have done what OGS I would beg to differ and state nobody execpt OGS could have done that. Why? Because he learned from the best, is clearly very intelligent and runs his ship based on positivity and clear roles. Then he has the sense like Fergie to surround himself with good coaches like Phelan,Carrick,McKenna and work with them as a team. OGS is a United fan as he stated last night and on top of that a legend as a player plus a very shrewd manager. What more could you want from a manager for United. He has the interest of the club at heart instead of a person living in a hotel for his tenure and behaving like a miserable git having been given the privilege of being Man Utd manager and being paid a awful lot of money while doing it. Now Darthvader has been sent packing and Luke Skywalker is here to save the day.
 

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It’s something non of us will truely know until he makes some signings and puts his own stamp on the squad.

Why can’t they just give him a one year contract with the option to extend? Does it not work like this? Makes perfect sense. Give him a year, free reign, see what he can do, if he does anything near what he is doing now, give him long term contract? Job done
 

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As much as I dislike Jose, I bet he was happy for some of our players like Rashford for example and it wouldn't surprise me if he sent some of them texts of congratulations.
 

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For Mourinho to ever redeem himself, he’ll need to change his style of football and his personality. Looks like any potential employers can already forget about him ever changing the latter.
 

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:rolleyes:can you believe last year as this stage this man managed to convince a few gullibles that we were not good enough to beat Sevilla? We would have absolutely smashed them with the same squad had it been Ole at the wheel.
 

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Mourinho should have been sacked the morning after the Sevilla game at OT last year. His whole attitude and self protecting attempts to diminish the club were disgusting and it amazed me that he had people defending him. The man should never have been allowed near the club in the first place.
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I can never forget and forgive that post match reaction.
Thing is, it would have been acceptable to an extent if we had gone out to a team like Barca or Bayern or Real.
But after going out to a team that has never been in the QFs and totally due to his tactical mistakes, how dare he blame the club's 'football eritage' and coolly say that "Oh this is nothing new, I have knocked Utd out in this stage with Porto and Real !" He is such a disgrace to our club and we had to sell our soul for a couple of trophies.

The worst thing is, a lot of fans bought into his crap and agreed with what he said.

I can't believe how things have changed over the past 2.5 months, this period has totally erased the worst memories under Mou.

We weren't great under LVG or Moyes either, but at least they were not as toxic and narcissistic as Mou was.
 

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Volumiza said:
If he does, the joke's on RM. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what happens to his career now. This has been a spectacular fail!
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Hi again, you can go to the Madrid thread to laugh a little. Scolari left and apparently Jose is back at Madrid, if this rumour is correct, well ...
 

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I defended him a lot but he never got it. He never got how huge we are and that, despite all, we're different than other clubs. Wouldn't change much but if he just once said 'we' it would be a start and maybe with a different mentality things would have gone different.

This reminds me of Arrigo Sacchi story back in the day.
 

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I defended him a lot but he never got it. He never got how huge we are and that, despite all, we're different than other clubs. Wouldn't change much but if he just once said 'we' it would be a start and maybe with a different mentality things would have gone different.

This reminds me of Arrigo Sacchi story back in the day.
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I agree, and his words of use about us and his stay at the Lowry is in this regard interesting. On the outside, it seems as if this was never really his club, but a temporary job for the sake of glory/winning back reputation. Always washed his hands, and distanced himself to the club in strange situations.

Don't think he ever felt at home, and it might be because he simply did not understand from the start what Manchester United is about and what the fans would like to see. When you look at his decisions of him being pragmatic in his tactics and in the players we bought in, many of these look reasonable in the short term, but always with a clash luring in the background, because we were not doing it the United way.

The clash of his defensive profile vs a club known for attacking is probably mostly Woodward's fault in not researching enough / hiring him in the first place. The pragmatism of Mourinho was also the pragmatism of many of us fans, myself included, who wanted short term success. Until we saw what it lead to and we missed our attacking/direct play identity. The major lesson for me in this, is that we need a definition of what a manager at United does and does not do. A clear direction that plays to our attacking football and grooming of talents and a DoF to enforce this.
 

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Even if he does, this is still not a long term impact. It's been like what, 4 games since he said that? Do you think that's the line between long and short term?
 

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After great wins or real disappointments it's very easy for United fans, and indeed opposing team's fans, to go overboard or overreact. However, a little perspective is no bad thing.

Dissappointing as the last two results have been, and whilst we didn't play badly @ Arsenal, we certainly did @ Wolves, it has to be said that Olé's run is still impressive. Those defeats are perhaps an inevitable bump in the road, the runaway train of continued success couldn't keep steaming away forever. Olé has done far more than could have been expected since he took over for a part of a single season. What he hasn't done is prove he can negotiate a summer transfer window, work with a director of football or maintain such results over several seasonss. How could he have done? He hasn't had the chance, but nevertheless he is unproven in important aspects of a Manager's job. The cautionary note in respect of Olé is always the Chelski experience... Di Matteo won the Champions League with a string of quite extraordinary results as temporary Manager, but he was sacked early the following season after being belatedly found wanting in important aspects of his job.

All of which makes the United board's decision to wait and not kneejerk look a sound one, which has been my view all along. United have to get it right after failing with three appointments, we can't be too careful. Real now have their man, Spurs look to have reached their ceiling with no transfers, Pochettino keeps dropping hints and a lot of people seem to think he has the credentials to manage United...
 
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Bill Hartzia said:
After great wins or real disappointments it's very easy for United fans, and indeed opposing team's fans, to go overboard or overreact. However, a little perspective is no bad thing.

Dissappointing as the last two results have been, and whilst we didn't play badly @ Arsenal, we certainly did @ Wolves, it has to be said that Olé's run is still impressive. Those defeats are perhaps an inevitable bump in the road, the runaway train of continued success couldn't keep steaming away forever. Olé has done far more than could have been expected since he took over for a part of a single season. What he hasn't done is prove he can negotiate a summer transfer window, work with a director of football or maintain such results over several seasonss. How could he have done? He hasn't had the chance, but nevertheless he is unproven in important aspects of a Manager's job. The cautionary note in respect of Olé is always the Chelski experience... Di Matteo won the Champions League with a string of quite extraordinary results as temporary Manager, but he was sacked early the following season after being belatedly found wanting in important aspects of his job.

All of which makes the United board's decision to wait and not kneejerk look a sound one, which has been my view all along. United have to get it right after failing with three appointments, we can't be too careful. Real now have their man, Spurs look to have reached their ceiling with no transfers, Pochettino keeps dropping hints and a lot of people seem to think he has the credentials to manage United...
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I make you right. I actually think we have already spoken to Poch and Ole staying is on the basis of whether Poch wants it or not. If the club truly believe in Ole, why wait until the end of the season? If he gets us into the top 4, doesn't answer many of the questions you have highlighted?
 

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Like with LVG, after having your heads firmly lodged up his ass during his tenure here, is getting angry at every little thing he says going to be the thing now? Because he actually didn't say much wrong here. Considering Solksjaer's inexperience, the relatively short term boost he's given United says nothing about his viability as a full time manager.
 

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I still don't think we have performed all that well under Solskjaer. We have had quite a lot of poor to average performances:

Tottenham we were poor; Leicester was dreadful; Burnley was poor; PSG first leg terrible (PSG did not play well); Southampton was average; Crystal Palace was decent; PSG second leg was great looking at the result, but it was not a great performance; Arsenal was average considering Arsenal did not even play well; Wolves was diabolical.

The truth of the matter is that the last 3 wins (Crystal Palace, Southampton and PSG) were due to Lukaku being in great form. Arsenal: Lukaku didn't score so we lost (nobody else looked a threat in that game); Wolves: No Lukaku so we posed no threat. It seems we have become massively reliant on Lukaku to even pose a threat in the last five games - aside from him we look completely toothless.

Our performances are looking more and more like that of individuals rather than a team. It reached its worst against Wolves where they looked like a bunch of strangers who have never played together before. They had no idea what each other was doing so it turned into a game of individuals.

I do not think the performances and results we are getting are sustainable. We have lucked out a lot in quite a few performances, so unless there is a change I do question Solksjaer's long term impact.
 
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