He's only been here for less than six months ffs. He took over a struggling team, and managed to make something out it at first.
Moyes took over the champions and totally fecked things up. I'd say Moyes is comfortably worse.
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Moyes took over the champions and totally fecked things up. I'd say Moyes is comfortably worse.
League Table since PSG
1 Liverpool 9 9 0 0 25:7 18 27
2 Man City
9 9 0 0 19:3 16 27
3 Leicester 9 5 2 2 16:7 9 17
4 Everton 9 5 2 2 15:7 8 17
5 Newcastle 9 4 2 3 16:12 4 14
6 Wolves 9 4 2 3 10:11 -1 14
7 Chelsea
9 3 4 2 11:9 2 13
8 West Ham 9 4 1 4 15:14 1 13
9 Crystal Palace 8 4 1 3 11:11 0 13
10 Bournemouth 8 3 2 3 14:11 3 11
11 Southampton 8 3 2 3 12:15 -3 11
12 Spurs 9 3 1 5 11:9 2 10
13 Burnley 8 3 1 4 12:12 0 10
14 Arsenal 8 3 1 4 9:11 -2 10
15 Cardiff 9 3 0 6 9:12 -3 9
16 Fulham 9 3 0 6 7:16 -9 9
17 Man Utd 9 2 2 5 7:16 -9 8
18 Watford 9 2 1 6 11:18 -7 7
19 Brighton 9 1 3 5 5:16 -11 6
20 Huddersfield 8 0 1 7 6:24 -18 1
2 Man City
9 9 0 0 19:3 16 273 Leicester 9 5 2 2 16:7 9 17
4 Everton 9 5 2 2 15:7 8 17
5 Newcastle 9 4 2 3 16:12 4 14
6 Wolves 9 4 2 3 10:11 -1 14
7 Chelsea
9 3 4 2 11:9 2 138 West Ham 9 4 1 4 15:14 1 13
9 Crystal Palace 8 4 1 3 11:11 0 13
10 Bournemouth 8 3 2 3 14:11 3 11
11 Southampton 8 3 2 3 12:15 -3 11
12 Spurs 9 3 1 5 11:9 2 10
13 Burnley 8 3 1 4 12:12 0 10
14 Arsenal 8 3 1 4 9:11 -2 10
15 Cardiff 9 3 0 6 9:12 -3 9
16 Fulham 9 3 0 6 7:16 -9 9
17 Man Utd 9 2 2 5 7:16 -9 8
18 Watford 9 2 1 6 11:18 -7 7
19 Brighton 9 1 3 5 5:16 -11 6
20 Huddersfield 8 0 1 7 6:24 -18 1
I compared him with Moyes but in reality Moyes is level above him.
It is just getting worse and worse. Not sure he is good enough to motivate and improve the players we got. Fitness might help us and more quality too, but the football we play is poor and the confidence is low.
You do realise most of these players are going to be here next season? We not selling 16 first teamers and replacing them with 16. So whose job is it to motivate them?
Plus Brendan turned Leicester around almost immediately with the same group of players.
FFS, if you would have told me a couple months ago all we needed to do to make top 4 was beat Huddersfield and Cardiff City... 
How do you expect him to roll out plans with players not trying?
Again, its nothing short of a disgrace blaming yet ANOTHER manager.
Didn't we just announce Phelan on a long-term deal yesterday?
I mean now, sure. But assuming he's here next season, no. Ole looks even more lost than Moyes did on his worst day.
We’ve literally just given Mike Phelan a 3 year deal as assistant.
Ole is going nowhere (until Christmas)
This is why we should never hire a club legend. I have no idea why we would announce a new manager in the middle of the season.
Brenton as much as I can’t stand him has a style. It’s his way or the high way really.
Your an embarrassment pal.
Yeah Ole on his own, out there against 11 men. No wonder he lost...
He’ll be sacked with us sitting in the bottom half of the table next season.
Probably not as they’ve already made themselves to look like a bunch of morons in recent seasons. They’ll likely keep him and give him money to spend and hope that it’ll least gets us top 4 basically a rinse and repeat motion we’ve gone through these last few years but I can say now no matter who we sign we won’t get top 6 never mind top 4.
They’ll stick with Ole but I’d like to see Ole man up, swallow his pride and admit he lacks the capabilities to get united on the up and resign himself.
3 previous managers since Sir Alex retired and now Ole struggling. It's deeper than simply blaming Ole.
Anyone thinking preseason is going to change anything is absolutely deluded I'm afraid.
It's his job to motivate the players and make sure they try. If he can't make them, they means he's lost the dressing room and there's no use of keeping him here. We can't buy 24 new players, no team can. And if these players aren't trying, why does he keep picking the same group of players over and over, again Ashley Fecking young being a prime example
If ole couldnt fashion A TEAM of any sort , to beat Cardiff at OT that shows his ineptitude and he needs to do the decent thing and walk, before hes pushed, bloody hell, even an open cheque book wouldnt help, he is out of his depth, no top manager would win just 2 points out of ?? What is it 25,!!! Just think on that
If something happens like they pull a trigger on him, regardless of opinions of that move being crazy or not. He made some decisions leading to this point, there is no hiding from it.
Also have a question, is it just me because i am fuming at the moment and my memory went to shit but since SAF retired, fans spent a lot of time singing songs about managers, everyone single one had one, dont remember fans signing about SAF for 20 min without a break. Seems the more they sing about manager, the worse it gets.
Also have a question, is it just me because i am fuming at the moment and my memory went to shit but since SAF retired, fans spent a lot of time singing songs about managers, everyone single one had one, dont remember fans signing about SAF for 20 min without a break. Seems the more they sing about manager, the worse it gets.
OUT OF HIS DEPTH.
OUT OUT OUT
OUT OUT OUT
The players downed tools. Also I think because of treatment of Herrera. Their mentality is gone.
I don't many are mate. But having the wrong manager only ends in one way. If he's wrong choice and brings in the wrong players then it sets us back for the next manager
Not a single one of these are his players, nor has he been able to get rid of anyone bar Fellaini.
The results have been terrible, but is it any different from Moyes, Van Gaal or Jose?
All of them had atleast 2 windows to bring in and get rid of players
The results have been terrible, but is it any different from Moyes, Van Gaal or Jose?
All of them had atleast 2 windows to bring in and get rid of players
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It is. Point is i, as many, love Ole but i think his tenure Will end in tears.
OGS won't receive the money to spend because he's not trusted. He'll be gone by October
He motivated them at first didn't he? These players are fecking rotten.
We wouldn't have been Top 4 though. Goal difference would still have made us 5th...FFS, if you would have told me a couple months ago all we needed to do to make top 4 was beat Huddersfield and Cardiff City...
Of course it is but that doesn't excuse Ole and i don't know why people keeping writing posts as if it does.
We need a clear out of playing staff but putting that responsibility into the hands of someone who has had us in close to relegation form is just reckless. No guarantees but you don't bet on top of failure so find someone else.
There are some very worrying signs.
The constant selection of Ashley Young.
Worst passer Ashley Young being on corner duty.
But what's worrying is a total lack of system or style.
One week there is no one on the right wing. This week we started with no one on the left. Lingard being played as a false striker in some games.
It's just mix and match and nothing going on. Can't be easy for players having no set system.
The constant selection of Ashley Young.
Worst passer Ashley Young being on corner duty.
But what's worrying is a total lack of system or style.
One week there is no one on the right wing. This week we started with no one on the left. Lingard being played as a false striker in some games.
It's just mix and match and nothing going on. Can't be easy for players having no set system.
They should have a level of motivation as is, they are playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world, but they need Ole to psych them up still?
I'm not surprised we are as bad as we are with a fan base as soft as this.
Of course he's lost the feckin dressing room, he's told some of them they have no future here, that's the point!
What? So you got no response to that and I’m not your pal, you need to get out your house to make one of those.
You can’t even make any valid points without resorting to name calling. So do you think we going to ship off 16 players next season and replace them with 16? Most these players will be here next year and it’s Oles job to motivate them. Can you tell me what type of football Ole wants us to play? You right Pep wasn’t great in his first season but he had a style he wanted to play and towards the back end of the season they got better.
I don't think I'd ever be able to trust him long term because of this form. May only be partially his fault but still. This should never be happening.
He’s more than struggling, he’s lost 2-0 against a relegated side, at home, without scoring a single goal. That’s behond struggling, he’s out of his depth no matter how poor some of these players are. Our problems overall start and end with Ed Woodward, he should be ashamed of himself for not waiting until the end of the season.
We have many problems at this club.
But for me the most important thing is that Ole is not the answer to any of them. I'll always love him but this is Wilf McGuiness all over again.. I honestly won't be shocked if we are lower than 8th next season when he leaves.
But for me the most important thing is that Ole is not the answer to any of them. I'll always love him but this is Wilf McGuiness all over again.. I honestly won't be shocked if we are lower than 8th next season when he leaves.
This is a new low though. And Ole is a big part of the problem. Giving him the job so early was another major feck up from our board.
The ones that do have a future are the ones that chronically let us down.
The one's that don't have a future likely didn't even play today.
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