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Sack him. He can blame the players all he wants, sure they're not title challengers but they're not relegation fodder either and that's exactly how he's got them playing.
Yep.It’s funny. Fellaini was actually one of our better players. Let that sink in.
Bundesliga winner. UCL & Europa league runner up were in his CV you know. Or are we comparing those to Norwegian league.Klopp finished 8th in his first season, pretty sure most would have been calling for his sacking as well.
It's not really anyone's team is it? Team created by penny pinching, conservatism (keep what we have), plus panic.That's clear.
And fair. The only reason the current run is not a sacking offense is that it's not his team.
We did give him credit, we appointed him temporary manager to lift spirits. We then gave him the job permanently and he’s shown no ability to motivate a team.Solskjær won the league in Norway, same, or even stronger league than the Scottish, for the first time in the Molde's history.
Never won a European trophy with them, but did really well in Europe. Not saying they're on the same level, but atleast give him some credit for what he's done as manager..... Opposed of what most Brits seem to think, Cardiff wasn't his only job before United.
I like your confidence. Call me delusional, but I think we will surprise a lot of people next season. Don't underestimate a wounded animal.Its going to be brilliant
So we rather be more stupid and give him £200m to waste more money when he’s shown no sign of progression with his style of football. I think giving him £200m would be the stupid decision.You can't sack a guy before he's even brought in one player. That'd be top of our list of stupid decisions, even above the Moyes fiasco.
I can’t fault him for trying to be a bit positive in front of the cameras. The constant negativity under Mourinho really ate away at me, so I’m never going to be a hypocrite and say that I wish Ole would get angry in front of the cameras, because I don’t. Pretty sure behind the scenes he isn’t pleased and doesn’t actually think that this performance was good, but that’s where it’s meant to stay, behind the scenes. You’re meant to put up a united front for the cameras, and deal with your matters behind the scenes. Getting angry and throwing your team under the bus in interviews does nothing positive for anyone.post match interview
Ole: "The work starts now, everyone has the summer off but we have to come back with a different mentality and different attitude of being a Man United team. The ones who played did well but it was not good enough."
The ones who played did well, he must be fecking kidding. He’s scared of the dressing room, scared of pointing them out. So long for “the survival of the fittest”.
Ole: "It will take some time to close in on the top, we finished five or six points behind third, fourth, fifth and that has to be our aim. The top two teams have set a standard higher than before and we have to take up the next challenge.”
He must be sacked right now, talking about ending in top 5. Good luck attracting top players or prospects with that ambition. Again he can think that, but he shouldn’t say it.
He’s getting support because his legacy as a player, but damn this is worst than Moyes. This is the worst United team I’ve ever seen.
For all those calling for him to get the sack because of the challenging for top 4 quote. In what world are you guys living in if you think we are anywhere near challenging for the title. We are no where near it. Absolutely no where near it whatsoever.post match interview
Ole: "The work starts now, everyone has the summer off but we have to come back with a different mentality and different attitude of being a Man United team. The ones who played did well but it was not good enough."
The ones who played did well, he must be fecking kidding. He’s scared of the dressing room, scared of pointing them out. So long for “the survival of the fittest”.
Ole: "It will take some time to close in on the top, we finished five or six points behind third, fourth, fifth and that has to be our aim. The top two teams have set a standard higher than before and we have to take up the next challenge.”
He must be sacked right now, talking about ending in top 5. Good luck attracting top players or prospects with that ambition. Again he can think that, but he shouldn’t say it.
He’s getting support because his legacy as a player, but damn this is worst than Moyes. This is the worst United team I’ve ever seen.
He makes the point that if we got Klopp when Fergie left and he took us to 8th, would you be calling for his head? He would of been sacked. The point is we need patience and we as fans are acting like spoilt little twats, calling for a managers head because it has gotten a bit uglyBundesliga winner. UCL & Europa league runner up were in his CV you know. Or are we comparing those to Norwegian league.
Nothing against you mate but you're bad at making analogy.
To show an identity its not hard, it can either work out or not but the identity reflects. Ole’s identity is to park the bus and counterattack.Presumably stamp an "identity" on a group of players he didn't assemble, who are literally not fit for the purpose, any number of whom might be on their way out the door.
Easy.
I suppose you have a clue to Carricks' capabilities?Phelan aside, they are nobodies.
No clue why anyone thought Carrick is supposed to be a good coach.
Amazing. We lose 2-0 at home to Cardiff who have been relegated and someone tries to spin it off as the stats weren’t that bad. fecking hell.For all those calling for him to get the sack because of the challenging for top 4 quote. In what world are you guys living in if you think we are anywhere near challenging for the title. We are no where near it. Absolutely no where near it whatsoever.
The amount of entitled fans that are here is crazy. We are Manchester United. Yes. But we aren't good enough anymore. Not good enough at all, the quicker people realise that and lower their expectactions for 2-3 years then we may just get somewhere. A whole re-build does not mean instant success. It's taken Liverpool a good few years to where they are now. Maybe it's time we lower expectations for a while.
The stats from todays game isn't all that bad!
BBC
Home Team Man Utd
Away Team Cardiff
Possession
Home 73%
Away 27%
Shots
Home 26
Away 13
Shots on Target
Home 10
Away 4
Corners
Home 11
Away 2
Fouls
Home 9
Away 6
If only he was that ruthless in getting rid of Young, Smalling and Jones.He was ruthless with Fellaini "who I think was miles better than many players we have now", yet he only picked on him. He did that to score points at the vast majority of the fans that hate Fellaini. I can't trust him as a manager.
Agree completely.Starting to have some real doubts about Ole, had nothing to lose today and should have played a lot more youngsters in my opinion. My heart sank when I saw Smalling and Jones together at CB. The Valencia sub at 2-0 down was shameful too.
Genuinely starting to wonder if he has the bottle and enough upstairs to make the right decisions about a lot of these players who he seems a bit to pally with.
Still think the biggest problem is the structure of the club and that idiot Woodward running everything though.
It was strange, like him or not he has a very strong character and belief. He took much criticism and got through it. We have many sulkers in our squad who can't be talked to.He was ruthless with Fellaini "who I think was miles better than many players we have now", yet he only picked on him. He did that to score points at the vast majority of the fans that hate Fellaini. I can't trust him as a manager.
you don't get time in today's football. they may resort to a more experienced manager again... for transfersHe makes the point that if we got Klopp when Fergie left and he took us to 8th, would you be calling for his head? He would of been sacked. The point is we need patience and we as fans are acting like spoilt little twats, calling for a managers head because it has gotten a bit ugly
yeah but there's a much higher demand at united. they are that used to fergie success in recent timesBut the point was made with Klopp and Liverpool, which shows they did exactly what you saying you don't get in todays football. They gave him time.
Should have kept Mourinho then? Would have been cheaper too.Still people think that the manager is the main reason we're not winning football matches.
But the point was made with Klopp and Liverpool, which shows they did exactly what you saying you don't get in todays football. They gave him time.you don't get time in today's football. they may resort to a more experienced manager again.
If he’s angry behind scene as you say then he’s a master of controlling his emotions. Never in my life I’ve seen anyone that calm if he’s really angry. There’s a line between not throwing your players under the bus and saying they played well...I can’t fault him for trying to be a bit positive in front of the cameras. The constant negativity under Mourinho really ate away at me, so I’m never going to be a hypocrite and say that I wish Ole would get angry in front of the cameras, because I don’t. Pretty sure behind the scenes he isn’t pleased and doesn’t actually think that this performance was good, but that’s where it’s meant to stay, behind the scenes. You’re meant to put up a united front for the cameras, and deal with your matters behind the scenes. Getting angry and throwing your team under the bus in interviews does nothing positive for anyone.
If Klopp showed signs of our football changing as it was terrible during Fergies last few years then he would have got time. Let’s not forget Klopp reached the champions league final that year. Klopp has a better CV and better reputation than Ole. So it’s fair he’d be given more time. Nobody knows what Ole is going to do, so why should we trust him with spending a large amount of money for only us to reset in 12 months again.He makes the point that if we got Klopp when Fergie left and he took us to 8th, would you be calling for his head? He would of been sacked. The point is we need patience and we as fans are acting like spoilt little twats, calling for a managers head because it has gotten a bit ugly
tbh I dunno anymore. When Ole came in we were playing brilliant and scoring a lot of goals. Everyone were saying things like, "so we can play after all" and "turns out we aren't half bad and have decent players". So what has happened? How can players play like that, then down tools? Is it not the managers job to motivate?Still people think that the manager is the main reason we're not winning football matches.
No because the board were never going to back him so something had to change. You will find posts from me saying i expected no better from these players regardless of manager though. Look at the 11 today and try tell yourself it's even top half quality.Should have kept Mourinho then? Would have been cheaper too.
Yes I think you can be upset with the overall performance. Blame yourself and the collective performances of the team. Talk about what you think is needed to improve things in the future and not really focus on single players.If he’s angry behind scene as you say then he’s a master of controlling his emotions. Never in my life I’ve seen anyone that calm if he’s really angry. There’s a line between not throwing your players under the bus and saying they played well...
Right now I get the impression that he is just looking after his job, he knows he is out of his depth and it’s just trying to survive until the season starts. Lame as feck.
Yeh, you don't know if you can't comprehend the importance of being able to sign his own players and get rid of the trash that 3 other managers have accumulated that have did as poor as jobI don't know....maybe to beat relegation clubs.