Mata did with Chelsea, didn't he?
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Cause hes the only one to have won a league title?
Ok.
Being given extensions doesn't mean they'll be starting matches.
I imagine Smalling will, as much as I don't think he should.
Young and Jones though? Nah I can't see it, provided we actually use the summer wisely.
You obviously are speculating though, I'm not sure you know what the word means.
Saying Jones and Young will start a lot of matches next season is speculation.
We lost to a relegated Cardiff today not Manchester City.
I suppose not everyone literally, but you'd have been hard pressed to find a fan that didn't want him as manager in the moments after the PSG win.
I said they'll feature a decent amount.
What isn't speculation though is that they WILL BE HERE next season.
I know what speculating means. You're the one speculating that they will barely play. I see no reason to believe that.
Ah yeah he has. I was wondering if we somehow still had some from when we last won it.
Tell me: Do Liverpool have the same amount of world class players as City?
He is another old relic we have dusted out so that idiots can remember the glory days of the past.
Been wondering the same myself.
Well @Eddy_JukeZ just explained to you if it wasn’t for their president sacking Benitez they wouldn’t have won the first champions league. Do you think Woodward has the balls to do something like that? Perez six months down the line does it.
Point is we have a team full of winners - the idea they needed to have their egos massaged is stupid. They need to be managed.
I am speculating, yeah, never denied that; I just can't understand why you deny that you are.
Saying that they'll be here is sort of speculating, you don't know what will happen in the summer.
And how exactly are these world cup and title winners helping us now? Van Persie won a title, shall we beg him to come out of retirement? Bet Van Der Sar can still catch too. This squad isn't getting younger or better.
We did play some decent stuff (before tiring at around 60th min) plus got the results. The football Modle play is building from the back/high press/quick passes/really aggressive etc we did get glimpse of it at the start but after our injuries we went full counter attack. Without signings can we play that type of football consistently even with everyone fit ? NO, as we simply don't have defenders who can pass, midfielders who can press and attackers who can pass/while one can't control a ball. << any manager would struggle to play any type of high intensity to play football with these feckwits.
Can't tell the future so obviously don't know whether we could or couldn't play that type of football with new signings But there is some hope (due to earlier glimpses and having seen Molde play) if we can manage to get rid of these feckwits and bring in decent/good players then we have a chance to play some decent football. Of course if the likes of Young/Smalling/jones/lingard/Rashford/Matic are starters then he'd be sacked before Christmas IMO.
“the survival of the fittest” “I will be successful here and not all the players will be here to witness it” .He didn't say that at the beginning this was about 2 weeks ago and i am not sure whats wrong with “we have to be where we are at the moment” “we are to far from the top 2”, would it be better if he said we'll challenge a team who has consistently managed 90+ points with players who can't pass/shoot/cross/defend/press and shit them self under any pressure. With Jose's first season we played well for a bit then fell off, second season - played well for a bit at the start then fell off, this season - played shit at the start then played good under Ole then fell off. There's a clear pattern of our players not being able to consistently play at the level required, simply because they're not good enough and not because Jose/Ole want (wanted) them to miss place passes/ over hit crosses/ miss easy chances/ defend like idiots/ get out worked. They're not good enough and to say otherwise is deluding one self, so i don't personally have a problem (neither had a problem with jose ) saying we're far away from city. We clearly are, most of our players wouldn't get into spurs 11 forget city.
Anyone who expects us to challenge city (with Ole/Klopp/Fergie/Pep/Poch) with this squad or even with new signings next season or the one after needs their heads examined(or just live in reality rather than fantasy land), of course anything can happen in football but definitely not next season IMO. I personally don't care much about what a manager says but its more to do with what he does as he can simply say we're not good enough this week and say we'll win the league 2 months later<< words mean nothing IMO but to each his own, I guess.
I think there was a decent enough handful, but pretty much everyone conceded that Ed was in a position where he had to give it to him otherwise the fans would never forgive him. It turns out that was wrong too as if he’d have just waited, Ole would’ve gotten his thanks and goodbye this afternoon no questions asked.
After that shambolic game against Cardiff, I can only say Ole has become a YES man to the likes of Woodward and the Glazers, he didnt even give Herrera a send off, what a joke the united board are they dont care its all money and stock market, where do we go from here...
This guy decides to feck off Mata, Fellaini and Herrera first?!
Yet award Jones and Young new deals.
There's some shite in our squad but Fellaini, Herrera and Mata aren't the worst by any stretch.
Yet award Jones and Young new deals.
There's some shite in our squad but Fellaini, Herrera and Mata aren't the worst by any stretch.
If you think this set of players are capable of winning the top prizes with better management alone then I wish I shared your optimisim.
Olé is NOT the man to rebuild this club, patting players on the back, high fecking fiving them, allowing the WAGS on the pitch, lap of honour !
What a disgrace today was, I'm £120 out of pocket, and for what ? to give Valencia a respectful send off ?
We are a laughing stock, I can't even be bothered to taunt Liverpool.
What a disgrace today was, I'm £120 out of pocket, and for what ? to give Valencia a respectful send off ?
We are a laughing stock, I can't even be bothered to taunt Liverpool.
Why would we give them contract extensions then?
Unless you believe that we gave them an extension to get money for them if we sell them?
If their president wasn't idiotic enough to appoint Benitez in the first place, he wouldn't have to sack him. He struck lucky with Zidane, and their squad had far more quality than ours does currently.
Could you imagine the reaction if we failed to sign a player under Woodward's watch because of a fecking fax machine? Perez is an imbecile.
Sack Mourinho who took us to 6th the most decorated manager in the world and sack the guy who came in and couldn’t get us higher up the table in a few months with the same rotten squad?
Some of you guys are pathetic
Some of you guys are pathetic
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Can someone add a poll? I genuinely want to know what percentage of our fan base are on which side of the fence.
And let 29 year old Herera go for free
So the president corrects his stupid decision. Do you think Woodward is going to do the same? He didn’t even need to rush in to appoint Ole. There was no need to.
So according to you Real Madrid aren’t well run but we are. What happens on the pitch doesn’t matter as long as we get those sponsors.
Erik ten Hag? He's doing well because Ajax have a golden generation and their structure is fantastic. His tactics and substitutions have been criticized a lot. The Spurs shambles is a great example. They brought in a tall striker and booted the ball to him and he did nothing to stop it. Loads of Ajax fans were far happier (pre-CL SF) with Peter Bosz at the helm. Who is now doing well with Bayer Leverkusen. The only reason you would mention Ten Hag is because Ajax got to the semis in the CL. I'd much rather have Bosz.
Not saying that we should be winning the league bit we're better than what we've illustrated over the last two months. With a couple of good additions and a competent manager who knows what hes doing, we could be challenging.
I imagine the board gave Jones a deal with the intent of selling him, yeah.
I doubt there will be many takers though.
Exactly.And let 29 year old Herera go for free
Makes no sense to me then. Young and Jones will CLEARLY be here season. We could have easily let those 2 go on a free. Ole/Woodward/whoever value them and wanted them to stay.
If they're not here next season, I'll gladly eat crow.
I never said we were well run. If you weren't working yourself up trying to be smart you might've realised that.
A couple of good additions would not have us challenging, even if we had Guardiola at the helm.
We have pretty average players, truth be told.
Always said it, Woodward is a moron.
Allegri? Haven’t we suffered enough with defensive managers? Please let’s stay focused.
Sounds like him alright. Always getting romantic about small things like that or Fergie's parking spot. He might even be more small time than Moyes. He's already talking about top 5 being the target
So they gave him a £120k contract with four year deal plus one, which will make him harder to shift so that they could sell him? Seriously what are you smoking?
Unfortunately for us, he seems to have made his most moronic decision in the aftermath of Jose's sacking.
I thought he'd wise up, but that's just asking for too much from him.
Jose was despised by many from the get-go; Ole had nothing but accolades from the outset by the majority on here, so I wouldn't play the victim card, and feel he's too hard-done-by, but it seems more than reasonable to understand that there is a measure of fatigue at play here when there seems to be very little but mediocrity on display from the team after three, consecutive mangers, have attempted, and by the standards of the club, failed to ply their trade.
I feel the real culprit, in the guise of our ever more evasive CEO, has been massively overlooked, but obfuscation and spin seem to mitigate much when people look to apportion blame.
It would be nice to see something tangible in respect of tactics or strategy, even at this embryonic stage, and it's not beyond the wit of any half decent manager to do this, but Ole does look lost, and it pains me to say so, but we are where we are and I'm sure he will, regardless of what the the post-match consensus may opine, get his chance to prove his worth.
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