Bruno Fernandes | United not interested due to doubts over passing ability

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The least I say about Woodward the better. We lost 2 internationals (herrera and Fellaini) and Matic is 1 year older. If Pogba leaves then we're talking of 4 players here. Assuming Mctominay can step up we can get away with 3 (DM, b2b and AMC)
We brought in Fred too who I hope will be better after settling in. I think 2 should be okay. Fernandes and Saul would be great.
 

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Our midfield is in shambles and will be worse once Pogba leaves. We need a DM, a b2b and an attacking minded midfielder. No player can cover the 3 roles at the same time
I agree with devilish, I'm repeating myself, but we could have been looking at a midfield of Ndombele - Rodri - Rabiot with Fernades at the top of a diamond for little more than Pogba money ,with Matic, Fred, McTomminay and Pereira as back up it would be a huge improvement, but we are watching one player after another move on while we dither, As well as Ndombele, Rodri & Rabiot, we have also missed out on Barella and Teilmans, you could make a case for trying to get Gomes, De Jong and even Ramsay IF we were serious about improving the midfield, I don't think Fernandes on his own will transform us, I see him as a Pogba replacement, we need him and 2 more.
 

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We brought in Fred too who I hope will be better after settling in. I think 2 should be okay. Fernandes and Saul would be great.
I very much doubt it. He reminds me of Anderson minus his talent. I was hoping we get rid off before he becomes worthless
 

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The least I say about Woodward the better. We lost 2 internationals (herrera and Fellaini) and Matic is 1 year older. If Pogba leaves then we're talking of 4 players here. Assuming Mctominay can step up we can get away with 3 (DM, b2b and AMC)
Still shocked me how we let Herrera go. I'm that McTominay makes the step up but is a big ask. Regarding Matic, I think that he should have gone but as he is still here we will just have to put up with it. Really hoping that he's not going to be a regular starter as his legs have gone. What I'm hoping is that we just keep Matic for the big games as I don't think it's too much of an ask to get him to play one game at full intensity once once in a while, then sell him next summer.
 

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We brought in Fred too who I hope will be better after settling in. I think 2 should be okay. Fernandes and Saul would be great.
Hoping for a big season out of Fred he's had a season to bed in and adjust to the league, no excuses this year. In my opinion he has to perform or we should get rid of him next summer.
 

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I agree with devilish, I'm repeating myself, but we could have been looking at a midfield of Ndombele - Rodri - Rabiot with Fernades at the top of a diamond for little more than Pogba money ,with Matic, Fred, McTomminay and Pereira as back up it would be a huge improvement, but we are watching one player after another move on while we dither, As well as Ndombele, Rodri & Rabiot, we have also missed out on Barella and Teilmans, you could make a case for trying to get Gomes, De Jong and even Ramsay IF we were serious about improving the midfield, I don't think Fernandes on his own will transform us, I see him as a Pogba replacement, we need him and 2 more.
Bruno fernandes is a no 10. If we are getting him as Pogba's replacement then we are set to change our system. Id go for a 4-2-3-1 system with Partney and Doucoure in CM and Bruno as no 10
 

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Bruno fernandes is a no 10. If we are getting him as Pogba's replacement then we are set to change our system. Id go for a 4-2-3-1 system with Partney and Doucoure in CM and Bruno as no 10
System you suggested seems decent nut do you have faith in Woody parting with the funds for those three players?
 

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Finding it quite disturbing that the midfield and central defence has not been added to, the two area's where everybody could see we needed to strengthen over the last couple of seasons.
 

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Bruno fernandes is a no 10. If we are getting him as Pogba's replacement then we are set to change our system. Id go for a 4-2-3-1 system with Partney and Doucoure in CM and Bruno as no 10
Yes I can see the possibility of 4-2-3-1, I was going more 4-4-2 but as a midfield diamond (due to the lack of a top winger), if we went 4-2-3-1 my worry would be who the '2' would be ? I don't want another season of Matic so yes Partney & Doucoure would do for me.
 

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System you suggested seems decent nut do you have faith in Woody parting with the funds for those three players?
Nope. I think we will end with Bruno and Longstaff. That wouldn't be good enough but fans would love it as we will be adding another honest English worker to replace the lazy French. Then when crap hits fan they will blame it on some foreigner for not sorting everything by himself probably Bruno, Matic or fred
 

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Nope. I think we will end with Bruno and Longstaff. That wouldn't be good enough but fans would love it as we will be adding another honest English worker to replace the lazy French. Then when crap hits fan they will blame it on some foreigner for not sorting everything by himself probably Bruno, Matic or fred
Not all fans are Gary Neville. Especially the foreign ones. Why would they blame it on a foreign guy. Doesn't make much sense.
 

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Nope. I think we will end with Bruno and Longstaff. That wouldn't be good enough but fans would love it as we will be adding another honest English worker to replace the lazy French. Then when crap hits fan they will blame it on some foreigner for not sorting everything by himself probably Bruno, Matic or fred
Smalling, Jones, Lingard, Shaw, Rashford everyone gets so much shit on Redcafe but somehow ManUtd fans blame only foreigners.

Before that Rooney got so much abuse and same with Carrick.
 

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Not all fans are Gary Neville. Especially the foreign ones. Why would they blame it on a foreign guy. Doesn't make much sense.
I don't know. The last one man sorts it all midfielder we had was Robson. Even scholes needed help on the defensive side of things while Keane was decent offensively at best.

There's no Robson around
 

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I don't know. The last one man sorts it all midfielder we had was Robson. Even scholes needed help on the defensive side of things while Keane was decent offensively at best.

There's no Robson around
All I'm saying fans aren't blaming a lazy foreign guy instead of British players just cause they're British.
 

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Smalling, Jones, Lingard, Shaw, Rashford everyone gets so much shit on Redcafe but somehow ManUtd fans blame only foreigners.

Before that Rooney got so much abuse and same with Carrick.
No one gets as much shit as Pogba which is strange considering that he is one of the very few WC players we have. You don't see Real being interested in any of our British core cause they know they are
 

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Nope. I think we will end with Bruno and Longstaff. That wouldn't be good enough but fans would love it as we will be adding another honest English worker to replace the lazy French. Then when crap hits fan they will blame it on some foreigner for not sorting everything by himself probably Bruno, Matic or fred
Point taken I also think that we may end up with Bruno and Longstsff as I think Woody is to tight to release the funds. When they crap does hit fan I think rather than putting the blasme oon any of the players you mentioned the fans should direct the blamne towards Woody for not releasing the necessary funds to fill the gaping holes in the the squad which are evident for everyone to see. But he seems to not give a sh!te as long as we are making the Glazer's more money and that gets me really p1ssed off!
 

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All I'm saying fans aren't blaming a lazy foreign guy instead of British players just cause they're British.
Most do unfortunately. Whether it's down to ignorance or something else I don't know
 

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Seems to be a decent player but maybe it would be a better idea to include Isco in a deal for Pogba instead.

And despite this might be an unpopular opinion I think that Fred is a much better player than he gets credit for. There have been a few games last season with him being our best midfielder and if played on a regular basis I could see him + e.g. Isco + 1 new player forming a well ticking midfield. Depends of course also on the manager to get the best out of them.
 

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No one gets as much shit as Pogba which is strange considering that he is one of the very few WC players we have. You don't see Real being interested in any of our British core cause they know they are
Yeah it's all shower of praise in Lingard, Smalling thread.

Madrid interest had nothing to do with your post. Every Manutd player gets shit from fans here.
 

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Most do unfortunately. Whether it's down to ignorance or something else I don't know
As @roonster09 said some of our British players get as much as shit as possible so that's not really true.
Also I know you're a big Pogba fan but some of the criticism (not shit) he gets is warranted. As with other players. Him being a wc player doesn't excuse him. And anyway any shit he got at United which is completely blown out of proportions is nothing compared to what he would get at Madrid.
 

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As rooster said some of our British players get as much as shit as possible so that's not really true.
The difference is that Pogba is actually useful
 

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The difference is that Pogba is actually useful
He is, when he's up for it. United will live on probably beyond the Great Pogba, I'm sure.
I like how you changed the narrative, British players are shat on and it's ok cause they're all shit anyway, right?
 

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He is, when he's up for it. United will live on probably beyond the Great Pogba, I'm sure.
They will but only if we invest heavily in midfield which I very much doubt
 

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I very much doubt it. He reminds me of Anderson minus his talent. I was hoping we get rid off before he becomes worthless
We have people comparing Mkhitaryan with Bruno and Fred with Anderson.

These players aren't similar at all ffs.
 

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Rooney and Carrick were criticised once they were finished. Rashy is nowhere near as good as Pogba is
They were criticized from long back, not when they were finished. Carrick was written off as not good enough in 2009-10 season, same with Rooney after his contract saga

So Rashford is not as good as Pogba, so he is of no use. Wonderful logic.
 

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They were criticized from long back, not when they were finished. Carrick was written off as not good enough in 2009-10 season, same with Rooney after his contract saga

So Rashford is not as good as Pogba, so he is of no use. Wonderful logic.
Rashford is squad player level mate while Pogba is our best player. The rest (you mentioned) are useless
 

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Point taken I also think that we may end up with Bruno and Longstsff as I think Woody is to tight to release the funds. When they crap does hit fan I think rather than putting the blasme oon any of the players you mentioned the fans should direct the blamne towards Woody for not releasing the necessary funds to fill the gaping holes in the the squad which are evident for everyone to see. But he seems to not give a sh!te as long as we are making the Glazer's more money and that gets me really p1ssed off!
Is woodward waiting for sales before he can buy? If so they will not happen until late in transfer window,we will run out of time to buy anyone or if we do they will not settle into team quickly ,then we will lose points early on.
 

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We have people comparing Mkhitaryan with Bruno and Fred with Anderson.

These players aren't similar at all ffs.
I see alot of similarities between Fred and Anderson. They are both headless chickens. Ando is more talented though
 

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Rashford is squad player level mate while Pogba is our best player. The rest (you mentioned) are useless
It's as useless as your other posts. Just keep digging with your 'educated guesses'
 

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Sure. You see everything through Pogba eyes.
I don't. I want him out. However we need some solid investment to replace him. Else we will be worst off with the local fans blaming our most talented player for not doing everything by himself
 

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I don't. I want him out. However we need some solid investment to replace him. Else we will be worst off with the local fans blaming our most talented player for not doing everything by himself
Local fans or no local are not blaming him for that at all. You seem to bring up strange points which don't even exist.
 

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Baffling but okay.
Why? They both looked so out of place in midfield. They had heart, they were pretty physical but they lacked/lack good decision making

Fred is less injury prone though while Ando was clearly more talented
 

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I'm not convinced we are after this lad tbh. Everything linking us with him seems to be either coming from his club or their media. We might have made an enquiry and I think this is what they may be reporting on.....
 

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Local fans or no local are not blaming him for that at all. You seem to bring up strange points which don't even exist.
Herrera/DeGea the foreigners are loved by most fans and Lingard/Smalling/Jones the English players are hated by many. Somehow it doesn't fit the agenda.
 
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