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Reminds me of the Republican Party during and just after the Civil War.

The good news there is that the radical left wing of the party won that time.

Maybe lighting will strike twice.
 

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Carolina Red said:
They were never the majority within the Republican Party.
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Ok, committed plurality then.

I don’t think the comparison is very apt here. The moderates and conservative Republicans were always too busy squabbling amongst themselves, the same can’t be said of current establishment Democrats.
 

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InfiniteBoredom said:
Ok, committed plurality then.

I don’t think the comparison is very apt here. The moderates and conservative Republicans were always too busy squabbling amongst themselves, the same can’t be said of current establishment Democrats.
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Not yet.

There was a time though when the Moderate and Conservative Republicans banded together as well, until the Moderates broke ranks and caucused with the Radicals.

I’m just saying... history shows that there might be hope for us yet.
 

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The majority of establishment Democrats are 3rd-way, fiscally conservative, socially liberal (when it’s opportune) Clinton type. Blue dogs died off in the great culls of 2010 and 2014, so there are essentially only 2 factions within the party. I don’t see how they would relinquish their hold even remotely willingly, at least moderate and radical Republicans needed each other. Establishment Democrats have lost like 20 state legislatures, both chambers of Congress and the presidency and they stuck to their script.

Pelosi made her feelings perfectly clear, ‘only 4 people’, ‘a small group’, etc... They don’t intend to grant any legitimacy to progressives as political equals, at all.
 

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InfiniteBoredom said:
The majority of establishment Democrats are 3rd-way, fiscally conservative, socially liberal (when it’s opportune) Clinton type. Blue dogs died off in the great culls of 2010 and 2014, so there are essentially only 2 factions within the party. I don’t see how they would relinquish their hold even remotely willingly, at least moderate and radical Republicans needed each other. Establishment Democrats have lost like 20 state legislatures, both chambers of Congress and the presidency and they stuck to their script.

Pelosi made her feelings perfectly clear, ‘only 4 people’, ‘a small group’, etc... They don’t intend to grant any legitimacy to progressives as political equals, at all.
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Maybe I’m too optimistic. I just think that if that trend continues, eventually the progressives will start gaining ground because they’ll be able to play on the defeatism of the 3rd Way types.

On the other hand, it does lead me to wonder what could actually get done should we end up with a progressive president. What aspects of a Sanders or Warren agenda would actually get through Congress if it is dominated at best by establishment democrats?
 

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Like I said last week. It is all a feckin show and Americans are the mugs.
 

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US manufacturing sinks into recession amid Trump’s trade wars

US manufacturing sunk into recession in June after two consecutive quarters of declines amid President Donald Trump’s bitter trade wars, a slowdown in China and other trading partners.

The decline comes as the United States enters its 11th year of economic recovery and occurs despite Trump’s constant pledges to restore America to manufacturing greatness — even though services now drive three quarters of the US economy.

Despite jumping in June, manufacturing fell by a 2.2 percent annual rate in the April-June period, and total industrial production lost 1.2 percent, in both cases the second consecutive quarterly decline, the Federal Reserve said Tuesday.

“Manufacturing has borne the brunt of tariff uncertainties and slowing in global economic activity,” RDQ Economics said in its analysis.

The retreat comes even as American consumers are sustaining their appetite for spending pushing retail sales higher for the fourth straight month, as shoppers in June took home more new autos and furniture and dined out more frequently.

Manufacturing jumped 0.4 percent compared to May, while total industrial production showed no change, according to the Federal Reserve report, confounding economists’ expectations for a 0.2 percent gain.

However, economists said that uptick was unlikely to be sustained in coming months.

“Manufacturing is enduring a mild recession, but it probably won’t deepen much further,” Ian Shepherdson of Pantheon Macroeconomics said in an analysis.

– Lower interest rates –

The downturn in manufacturing is “not news; it’s a consequence of China’s cyclical slowdown and the trade war,” he said.

He predicts Washington and Beijing will find a deal to end their bitter trade dispute — following the resumption of talks by telephone this month — meaning that by the end of the year “China?s economy will be turning up.”

The contrary data cast a bit of a cloud over growth figures for the second quarter and could confuse the Federal Reserve’s interest rate strategy.

Retail sales rose 0.4 percent in June, double the expected gain, meaning sales are up a solid 3.4 percent compared to June of last year, according to government data.

Despite the solid retail sector, most economists expect a modest cut in the benchmark lending rate at the end of July as an insurance move given other signs of weakness.

Shepherdson said the move is premature given his expectation for a recovery in the second half of the year.

“To cut rates now because of the recent weakness of manufacturing is a mistake, in our view, because monetary policy works with long lags, and easing in H2 will be supporting growth next year,” he said.

But Oxford Economics said “Momentum cooled precipitously in the first half of the year.”

“Looking ahead, we expect manufacturing activity and overall industrial production to remain under pressure from these headwinds.”

Oxford expects the Fed to produce “three ‘insurance’ rate cuts over the next nine months.”

Along with higher manufacturing, mining output rose 0.2 percent, while petroleum and coal jumped 2.5 percent. Mining surged 8.9 percent in the latest quarter, its 11th consecutive quarterly increase.


But with milder temperatures in June easing demand for air conditioning, utilities output fell 3.6 percent in June.
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https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/us-manufacturing-sinks-into-recession-amid-trumps-trade-wars/
 

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Cruz s questioning of the Google exec is some psycho gestapo like way of painting an entire company as being anti conservative. Of course he blatantly ignored the statement that some of the quotes he used were taken out of context and that making sure 2016 doesn't happen again meant to stop foreign interference. But hey according to the Rs that never happened I guess.
 

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He's right, he's such a stud that just oozes sex appeal. There's no way any woman would be able to resist and keep their hands off him.

Edit. The replies, omg! They are disturbing. So many agreeing with him and blaming the left and saying he's a really smart man. feck my life, this world is a fecking joke.
 
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Jesus, sorry for not reading the previous posts but that send her back crowd are so nazi-esque it's almost unbelievable. Why don't they realise it? The lack of awareness is stunning.
 

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Pelosi is absolutely zero upgrade on Paul Ryan.
 

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THE POLITICAL ACTION committee affiliated with a bipartisan caucus on Capitol Hill is spending money to back a Republican challenge to Rep. Katie Hill of California, a freshman Democrat who has been an independent and at times progressive voice in the House, despite serving in a district previously held by the GOP.

Hill is what’s known as a “front-liner” in Democratic caucus politics, because she’ll face a difficult challenge to hold on to her seat in California’s 25th District. Mike Garcia, an Iraq War veteran, launched his campaign in April, and the With Honor PAC jumped in to support him that same month.

House incumbents have launched a full-blown counterrevolution against the so-called Squad and the organization that backs them, Justice Democrats, accusing them of undermining the party by targeting incumbents.

Justice Democrats, which became a prominent actor in Democratic politics after helping elect Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, however, has so far not endorsed a single challenger to a front-line Democrat, even as a new centrist caucus backs a Republican against Hill. The caucus is co-chaired by California Democrat Jimmy Panetta, who was first elected in 2016 and is the son of longtime Democratic operative and former Rep. Leon Panetta. The caucus also includes Democratic Reps. Seth Moulton, Mass., Chrissy Houlahan, Pa., Gil Cisneros, Calif., Jason Crow, Colo., Jared Golden, Maine, Conor Lamb, Pa., Elaine Luria, Va., Max Rose, N.Y., and Mikie Sherrill of N.J. None of the caucus members responded to a request for comment.

In addition to contributing to For Country Caucus members, With Honor has also given money this cycle to the campaigns of several incumbents, including Pelosi and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy; the DCCC; EMILY’s List; and the National Republican Congressional Committee.
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https://theintercept.com/2019/07/19/centrist-democrats-target-freshman-representative/
 
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