Abdoulaye Doucoure

[Samid]

Adam Leventhal [Tier 1 for Watford] on Doucoure: It is strongly assumed that he's definitely going to go. Obviously there were all those links with PSG in January, it seemed like the bids were coming in but the decision was made 'wait until the summer, then you can take your pick'.

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How much will he cost? We should be all over him.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Sign him up

Imagine going for an engine room of McT, Doucoure & someone like Ndidi - if you put the right attacking players in front of them we'd be hell to play against

 

[charlenefan]

Sign him up

Imagine going for an engine room of McT, Doucoure & someone like Ndidi - if you put the right attacking players in front of them we'd be hell to play against

A midfield like that requires an attack of Liverpool standards and I don't just mean the front 3 but also the fullbacks

 

[roonster09]

Not sure how much he costs but if we have chance we should sign him. Very good player.

 

[settembrini]

I rate him (obviously, who doesn't?) and he fits in with what Solskjaer has said about wanting powerful, pacy players and having the hardest working team in the league.

 

[tomaldinho1]

A midfield like that requires an attack of Liverpool standards and I don't just mean the front 3 but also the fullbacks

I think that's attainable.

Wan Bissaka - Chillwell are realistic IMO (and very good full backs)

Attacking players are more difficult but I don't think you have to find players considered the best in the world, none of Liverpool's front three were thought of as anywhere near WC when they bought them. Off the top of my head something like this would work (and then you upgrade when./if you can)

Rashford -------- Vardy ------- Richarlisson

Not saying these are players we should go for but I think there are good options out there

 

[André Dominguez]

Not a fantastic player, but would be an upgrade to our squad. But I fear that his price tag is probably too high.

 

[Dong Fangzhuo]

Sign him up

Imagine going for an engine room of McT, Doucoure & someone like Ndidi - if you put the right attacking players in front of them we'd be hell to play against

Would prefer Ndidi to Doucoure I think, but this is the type of signing I expect Ole and Phelan to be looking at this summer. PL proven players at smaller clubs ready to step up.

 

[devilish]

Sign him up

Imagine going for an engine room of McT, Doucoure & someone like Ndidi - if you put the right attacking players in front of them we'd be hell to play against

You wouldn't play them all at once though

 

[charlenefan]

I think that's attainable.

Wan Bissaka - Chillwell are realistic IMO (and very good full backs)

Attacking players are more difficult but I don't think you have to find players considered the best in the world, none of Liverpool's front three were thought of as anywhere near WC when they bought them. Off the top of my head something like this would work (and then you upgrade when./if you can)

Rashford -------- Vardy ------- Richarlisson

Not saying these are players we should go for but I think there are good options out there

It doesn't really matter what Liverpool's front 3 were thought of when they were bought though does it, Liverpool saw their quality and have been rewarded for it. The 3 you've got there are no where near the level of the Liverpool forward players.

Putting together your team as a whole and it would look like

----------GK----------
AWB---CB---CB---Chillwell
-------McTominay-------
---N'didi-------Doucoure---
Rashford-Vardy-Richarlison

I mean that's seriously mid table stuff

 

[izec]

Sign him up

Imagine going for an engine room of McT, Doucoure & someone like Ndidi - if you put the right attacking players in front of them we'd be hell to play against

Thats an Everton midfield. We would be dire to watch against teams parking the bus. No thanks

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

If you're going for two industrious midfielders you might as well get a proper #10 or an AM like Isco infront of them.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

He wouldn't be a bad Herrera replacement squad wise.

 

[tomaldinho1]

It doesn't really matter what Liverpool's front 3 were thought of when they were bought though does it, Liverpool saw their quality and have been rewarded for it. The 3 you've got there are no where near the level of the Liverpool forward players.

Putting together your team as a whole and it would look like

----------GK----------
AWB---CB---CB---Chillwell
-------McTominay-------
---N'didi-------Doucoure---
Rashford-Vardy-Richarlison

I mean that's seriously mid table stuff

Given it's a hypothetical team it amuses me you can predict how they'd do.

Liverpool's CMs were from relegated Newcastle, Milner was a backup at City and Henderson. They've added to this with players like Fabinho and Keita but all are relatively limited CMs and they're there to create the platform from which the front three thrive.

Need to start thinking about how a team plays together, not just let's sign some good players and cobble them all together

Thats an Everton midfield. We would be dire to watch against teams parking the bus. No thanks

Everton beat us 4-0

 

[Dec9003]

Doucoure is industrious but he's good on the ball too.
I think there's a few really good midfielders at the lower premier league clubs worth looking at, he's definitely one of them.
The problem we'll have in the summer is the prices, clubs will see us coming from a mile off, and sending Woody into negotiations is akin to sending in Mr Bean.
As a signing though he'd be very good, he comes with a lot less risk than signing someone like Fred from the Ukrainian league for example.

 

[izec]

Given it's a hypothetical team it amuses me you can predict how they'd do.

Liverpool's CMs were from relegated Newcastle, Milner was a backup at City and Henderson. They've added to this with players like Fabinho and Keita but all are relatively limited CMs and they're there to create the platform from which the front three thrive.

Need to start thinking about how a team plays together, not just let's sign some good players and cobble them all together



Everton beat us 4-0

You are right. But while Liverpool manages to have a team, there is no guarantee throwing 3 players together will do the same in midfield. I would have no issues with one of Ndidi or Doucoure, but we are not here to copy Liverpool or any other team. Plus they both wont be cheap. I dont see it with our team.

 

[charlenefan]

Given it's a hypothetical team it amuses me you can predict how they'd do.

Liverpool's CMs were from relegated Newcastle, Milner was a backup at City and Henderson. They've added to this with players like Fabinho and Keita but all are relatively limited CMs and they're there to create the platform from which the front three thrive.

Need to start thinking about how a team plays together, not just let's sign some good players and cobble them all together



Everton beat us 4-0

It doesn't need my of a hypotheses to see how they'd do though does it, you've got 3 players from Leicester in the team, a RB from Palace who is probably only a marginal upgrade on Leicester's existing RB, a Watford midfielder who's arguably not even an upgrade on Tielemans another player already at Leicester, basically you're looking at half a Leicester side with a GK (De Gea?), two CB's (Lindelof and if you're not buying another one then a pairing that's no better than what we've got already i.e. garbage) and two massively inconsistent players in Rashford and Richarlison

I agree it's not about buying galaticos though

 

[Dozer]

He wouldn't be a bad Herrera replacement squad wise.

My thoughts exactly. Sign him up

 

[Cassidy]

Given it's a hypothetical team it amuses me you can predict how they'd do.

Liverpool's CMs were from relegated Newcastle, Milner was a backup at City and Henderson. They've added to this with players like Fabinho and Keita but all are relatively limited CMs and they're there to create the platform from which the front three thrive.

Need to start thinking about how a team plays together, not just let's sign some good players and cobble them all together



Everton beat us 4-0

Everton beat us 4-0 but still finished below us in the table

 

[Aloysius's Back 3]

Given it's a hypothetical team it amuses me you can predict how they'd do.

Liverpool's CMs were from relegated Newcastle, Milner was a backup at City and Henderson. They've added to this with players like Fabinho and Keita but all are relatively limited CMs and they're there to create the platform from which the front three thrive.

Need to start thinking about how a team plays together, not just let's sign some good players and cobble them all together



Everton beat us 4-0

That's Klopp's tactics than the pure ability of the players. Widjanldum, Chamberlain, Henderson, Milner have all stepped up 2 extra gears under him and no manager currently available would be able to do that with us - or with players of that quality.

 

[Ola]

Seems like a good, realistic option to get some legs and something more to our midfield.

 

[tomaldinho1]

You are right. But while Liverpool manages to have a team, there is no guarantee throwing 3 players together will do the same in midfield. I would have no issues with one of Ndidi or Doucoure, but we are not here to copy Liverpool or any other team. Plus they both wont be cheap. I dont see it with our team.

Yes I agree, we shouldn't look to other teams for a blue print although I am impressed/surprised that Klopp's style has been this effective. I also have thought our CM has lacked any form of real dynamism for a long long time.

It doesn't need my of a hypotheses to see how they'd do though does it, you've got 3 players from Leicester in the team, a RB from Palace who is probably only a marginal upgrade on Leicester's existing RB, a Watford midfielder who's arguably not even an upgrade on Tielemans another player already at Leicester, basically you're looking at half a Leicester side with a GK (De Gea?), two CB's (Lindelof and if you're not buying another one then a pairing that's no better than what we've got already i.e. garbage) and two massively inconsistent players in Rashford and Richarlison

I agree it's not about buying galaticos though

I did point out the front three were for an exmaple only - given it's the Doucoure thread I was focusing more on the midfield. Next season the key for me will sorting out a style we want to play with and probably signing 3, maybe 4, players. i don't think it'll be any more drastic than that. Doucoure can also go past people and I think with the right setup could assist more on offensive building of play as well.

I also like Tielemens and I don't think we should just assume that because a player plays for Leicester or CPFC he's automatically mid table level. Look at difference between Wijnaldum at Newcastle and Wijnaldum now.

 

[Harry190]

Him or Ndidi to replace Herrera. Would be an improvement.

 

[Ekeke]

Him or Ndidi to replace Herrera. Would be an improvement.

 

[Sarni]

Football isn't just numbers.

 

[Ekeke]

Football isn't just numbers.

Actually it is. 3 points, 1 or 0.

 

[Cassidy]

He isn't better than Herrera but if Herrera is leaving then not a bad signing. Dacoure actually had a spell this season where he was quite crap to be honest but overall I do like him

 

[Decomposing In Paris]

People need to remember that we are not only losing Herrera, but we also sold Fellani this season. Whilst I'm a big fan of Herrera (particularly in big games), we actually need a couple of new players in this area. While I don't think Doucoure is going to revolutionise our midfield on his own, he'd be a potentially important cog in the machine. It would all depend on his price how good a signing this would actually be. That said, I'd happily swap him for £52m Fred.

 

[Slevs]

I'd like him as a squad option.

Fred deep lying playmaker (Carrick in mid 30s role)

McTominay and Doucoure cleaning up.

Thing is, we need improvements all over the field. This midfield would work with a front 3 that presses since Scott and Doucoure could cover good ground. It won't work with Lukaku and Martial walking back.

I'd like him as a squad option though, good player who actually hustles.

 

[Samid]

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[Freak]

Get him.

 

[Womp]

Would be a great signing

 

[Fer]

How did he play vs city in the cup final?

 

[arthurka]

How did he play vs city in the cup final?

Not sure any Watford player should be judged by that game .

 

[Ekeke]

How did he play vs city in the cup final?

Rubbish

 

[Womp]

How did he play vs city in the cup final?

Terrible

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Rubbish

Sounds perfect for us.

 

[Paxi]

Sounds perfect for us.

 

[Samid]

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Why aren't we in for him?

 

[2 man midfield]

I thought we were when i saw this bump