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I am not referring to you mate but to the players. Would you get yourself sorted out of fear of losing your job if lazier employees keeps getting long term contracts? I wouldn't
I'd play for the badge myself, but yeah our squad is full of wankers. It's a long process to shift them out and replace them with players who want to be at the club for the right reasons.
 

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There was a massive melt-down in 2009 too, believe me.

In fact - over the history of the transfer window in the PL - I would say the vast majority have ended in melt-downs. The current “why didn’t we sign a CM, all our rivals have better CM’s than us” hysteria is classic Fergie era moaning.
To be honest we were too light in midfield by the end of the Fergie era.

I don’t think the current midfield is as bad as people make it out to be. McT and Pogba could form a very nice pair. Matic seems slow but is still a good back-up. I don’t think Fred is as bad as people make him out to be (have high hopes for his second season) and Pereira is not bad either. We have a couple of options imo, and hopefully some of the combinations will work out fine.
 

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Every case is different. All I’m saying is that with saf in charge, there would be no meltdown.

I remember summer 2009 and that was far worse than 95 or 2019 imo. We’ve sold the most talented player we’ve ever had, didn’t resign one of best players in our squad and let him go to our rivals. Then proceeded by signing a lad from Wigan, Obertan and Owen on a free. Just imagine the meltdown now. No with Sir Alex, fans just knew he’d get us through choppy waters.
Yeah agree with SAF, ha yeah remember that 09 summer jesus wept! I can remember mates, family when we sold Ince to Inter Milan and obviously Hughes went, Kanchelskis and it was like, were are the replacements.

Personally love the fact that Ole is looking to promote Greenwood rather than going and buying a Ben Yedder/Mandzukic, pace, high press, bring through the kids, young hungry, bring it on!
 

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He's not going to say otherwise though and I can't blame him. Creating a division of 'them and us' is only healthy when it's not fighting within your own club.

I hope he's right about the squad, it might be more balanced now than it's been in a long time.
I think that there would have been no apocalypse that would have needed to be averted if Ole said that he's disappointed about how things turned out in the transfer market. There's no need to take it to the ridiculous level Mou took it but one comment would have been enough to make it known that he's no poodle. The fans would have understood that and would have rallied around him if things got tough.

He chose to toe in line with Woodward instead. Lets hope they won't throw him under the bus as they did with the three previous managers.
 

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Never said anything about the manager, where you getting that from?

Hughes Ince Kanchelskis all sold, there was all the Martin Edwards kick off, mate if you don't remember the start of that season and the meltdown then fair enough, I do clear as day.

Yes the board are a fecking disgrace but ffs the place on Sunday will be a morgue if any of the fans on here are going, can you imagine!
Never said you did, i'm just saying that there were a lot of differences between then and now, and we had a lot more positives with the manager being one of them. I do remember the meltdown, but it was more about the letting go of 3 first teamers (especially Ince and Hughes) ... but we did still have the manager that everyone had a lot of faith in, so yeah.
 

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Ole has his hands tied by the board I hope he plays the younger players and bins the likes of Matic, Mata and limis the games of Lingard. An early exit from the stupid Europa league will benefit our league position.
We should be aiming to win the Europa League as it gives us another chance of CL qualification.
 

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I'd play for the badge myself, but yeah our squad is full of wankers. It's a long process to shift them out and replace them with players who want to be at the club for the right reasons.
you would because you're a supporter. Thus why I was referring to your workplace rather then the club you support.
 

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Understand fans negative mood?
Of course we want to put that right and the only way we can put an doubts is by playing good football, showing the team we want to be, the style we want to play and our fans when they see that intention have always been supporting the team but within the team and the club we’re feeling very confident and don’t feel that negativity you’re talking about.
Ole believes that if we can't finish top at least we can start playing attractive football again with commitment. An improvement on the dross served up for the most of the past 6 years.
 

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I don't understand the negativity here. OGS has come in and got rid of Fellaini, Valencia, Lukaku. Just close your eyes and imagine any of them playing with any previous Man Utd team before 2011. The fact they are gone makes this a much better sight. Yes we didn't get a good season last year but at least we played well. There was HOPE. At any match, at any point of time there was hope that we could score at any time now. Under Mourinho, we would definitely know the result before going to the game. Give the man some credit for

1) Getting rid of Fellaini, Valencia, Lukaku

2) Giving our team some identity - its a young team, with a core English players with speed who rely on movement rather than physicality and height

3) To an extent playing some good football with the ball on the floor. I think everyone is spoilt playing Football Manager - "sell 7 players here put the money here on 8 players. Total transfer spend = 0 and I've improved the team.". Changing the culture is a process and at least there is direction now. It took us 7-8 years to be like this and asking to undo it in one transfer window is ridiculous. It will happen - mark my words - Non functioning members will be slowly replaced. First full pre-season, first transfer window, lot of young players to look forward to, mobile team (as opposed to lump team). Be cheerful and lets enjoy the season. No pessimism.
 
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I don't have high expectations for the season. I'm hoping to see change of attitude. Attacking spirit and that this season, our players start believing again that they are the best in the world. If that happens, I'm happy.
 

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Sanchez? Could he go?
Alexis has come in and trained well, of course he’s four or five weeks behind the boys and he has not played apart from the one behind closed doors here, I think he’ll see this as an opportunity as well to make his mark.

I do expect him to stay, there’s a striker there we think is going to be able to score some goals.


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@DomesticTadpole I love you as a poster and respect you, but you are just wumming here. There is no way that was said
 

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By all accounts Ole had words with Lingard over the summer about his poor form and his social media antics. I think this is more the boss telling Lingard he expects performances or he could well be on his way.
Imagine us somehow getting top4 and then getting rid of Jones, Young, Smalling, Lingard, Mata, Sanchez and Matic next summer? :drool:

It's a necessity that Gomes breaks into the first team asap this year though. We also need Fred and McTominay to reach top form, and Andreas to show us why Ole gave him a new contract.
 

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There was a massive melt-down in 2009 too, believe me.

In fact - over the history of the transfer window in the PL - I would say the vast majority have ended in melt-downs. The current “why didn’t we sign a CM, all our rivals have better CM’s than us” hysteria is classic Fergie era moaning.
I was doing way too much “partying” to put it mildly in 2009 so there could have been some discontent but from what I remember, from my United supporting mates etc, was dissatisfaction that we didn’t get one of Robben, Sneijder, or Robinho in cash plus player type deal.
 

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Never said you did, i'm just saying that there were a lot of differences between then and now, and we had a lot more positives with the manager being one of them. I do remember the meltdown, but it was more about the letting go of 3 first teamers (especially Ince and Hughes) ... but we did still have the manager that everyone had a lot of faith in, so yeah.
+ we still had a fantastic squad in a league which was basically waaaaaaaay crappier then the current one.
 

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Dont have time to keep debating all day. We handed new contracts to Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Mata and Young. All of those players should have either been sold or just let go. Because they are all on high wages and no one wants to buy them because of that and they are not good enough
Imagine how thin our squad would be if we let all those players go...

Also never really get this huge push to let Smalling and Young go in particular... if we let Young go we'd have to go out and sign a back-up full back, and same with Smalling (i.e getting a back-up centre back) or buying two first team centre-backs in one window, which was never going to happen.
 

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Ole says the squad is confident, pre season says the squad is confident. Above all else that is what matters.

Shame some of our fanbase can't give the negatively a rest even if just for 5 minutes.
 

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I think that there would have been no apocalypse that would have needed to be averted if Ole said that he's disappointed about how things turned out in the transfer market. There's no need to take it to the ridiculous level Mou took it but one comment would have been enough to make it known that he's no poodle. The fans would have understood that and would have rallied around him if things got tough.

He chose to toe in line with Woodward instead. Lets hope they won't throw him under the bus as they did with the three previous managers.
But what good does that do? Does it help him? Does it help the team? Does it improve his relationship with anyone? The answer is no to all those questions. It will be deemed as a negative comment that the board will not look favourably on, and let's not forget, they are his employer. You don't publicly slag your boss off at the first opportunity.

What Solskjaer says to the press and what he says in his meetings to Woodward are completely different. Just because he didn't come out and say he's disappointed doesn't mean he's toeing the line. If anything it may convince the board to back him in January if they see he's making more of an effort to not throw the nobs under the bus at every opportunity.

Anyone that watches football knows to blame for our shortcomings and Solskjaer verbalising that doesn't help the situation in any capacity.
 

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Imagine how thin our squad would be if we let all those players go...

Also never really get this huge push to let Smalling and Young go in particular... if we let Young go we'd have to go out and sign a back-up full back, and same with Smalling (i.e getting a back-up centre back) or buying two first team centre-backs in one window, which was never going to happen.
Ye just imagine if we only had 5 CB's instead of 7. Shucks
 

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If Ole says he is happy with the forward line and he is dedicated to playing youth teamers then the genuine should be asked, why did the club so publicly court Dybala.

We are woefully short in midfield and no business will be done in January to reflect this, as the company line of 'We do our main business in the summer' will be trotted out.

Most importantly I hope Ole is asked why he didn't follow up on clearing out the dead wood as he had said he would. Is he 'just following orders'.
Deadwood leaving will force Ole to play youth. 'Deadwood' won't be replaced if there's a mass exodus. Do fans want that : youth over experience?
 

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Why United did not sign a Romelu Lukaku replacement
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer says Manchester United did not recruit a replacement for Romelu Lukaku in order to prioritise the development of Mason Greenwood.

Read the full story here.
Fair enough but that means Ole will absolutely have to play him and Gomes on a regular basis not just EL games. I expect him on the bench Saturday
 

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There was a massive melt-down in 2009 too, believe me.

In fact - over the history of the transfer window in the PL - I would say the vast majority have ended in melt-downs. The current “why didn’t we sign a CM, all our rivals have better CM’s than us” hysteria is classic Fergie era moaning.
The only summers without meltdowns ended in tears. Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Falcao summer for example. Even the Pogba summer was a single Guidetti 2 yard miss from ending in tears.
 

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It's shocking. Imagine six months ago telling somebody that our fanbase would openly mock an absolute legend in Ole. They have no respect for the man and what he's done for this club whatsoever. He's one of us ffs.
Exactly. Some of these people haven't got a clue and makes me feel the level of footballing debate on here has regressed to alarming levels. I mean, it was never great but it's actually horrendous now. So many clueless people.

There was a time when transfer muppets used to be laughed at on here and were seen as a loud minority. Now, it's almost as if 95% of the forum are those same Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime that people used to laugh at.
 

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"So Ole, are you happy with the squad?"

"No, they're all fecking shit, I can't believe we're going to start this season with this bunch of cnuts. That Pogba, well let's just say I agree with Ron Atkinson on that, Youngy is toss, Rashy couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo, and Anthony is a stroppy baguette eating French cnut. Phil Jones is a gurning Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime, Chris Smalling turns like C3PO, and Ed Woodward still drinks breast milk from his mums tit"

Would that make you more happy?
You forgot to end it with #GlazersOut #WoodwardOut
 

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There was a massive melt-down in 2009 too, believe me.

In fact - over the history of the transfer window in the PL - I would say the vast majority have ended in melt-downs. The current “why didn’t we sign a CM, all our rivals have better CM’s than us” hysteria is classic Fergie era moaning.
Absolutely. I remember that exact debate bwell...
 

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Spent hardly a penny, there was loads of kick off about Martin Edwards at the time, how he was running the club etc. being written off by absolutely everyone, media went into meltdown after Villa smoked us on the opening day.

Not all that different
Completely different since we still had a spine of winners and leaders in the team. This season we have no one of that level of leadership or quality.
 

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Pocchettino complained about how Spurs were conducting themselves in the transfer market and guess what? The skies didn't fall over. Actually it gave Spurs the kick at the backside needed to act.

If he's a yes man then he's part of the problem not part of the solution.
I think you got that wrong. Poch was not complaining about lack of signings; he was complaining about not being involved. Frankly, he doesn´t sound much happy about his role at Spurs, and I put my money on him being sacked as one of the first this season. He does want to be there anyway (he want´s Ole´s job).
 

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Ole has his hands tied by the board I hope he plays the younger players and bins the likes of Matic, Mata and limis the games of Lingard. An early exit from the stupid Europa league will benefit our league position.
If anything we need the Europa League to give our youngsters a chance to break into the first team. We also need it to give games to the deadwood so we can keep them away from the PL fixtures. I'd love it if Matic, Mata, Lingard, Jones, Smalling and Young only played EL and never PL.
 

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Ole believes that if we can't finish top at least we can start playing attractive football again with commitment. An improvement on the dross served up for the most of the past 6 years.
Think fans forgive a lot of failing if they are at least being entertained. It's his first full season when his style can be implemented. If things go well for him, then it is up to the club to build on any feelgood factor there is.
 

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He's only a dead man walking if fans don't appreciate he's been shafted by the board this summer.

Personally I think appointing Solskjaer will bit them in the arse because fans are more likely to turn on Woodward and the Glazer's before they go for Solskjaer.
The trouble is we don’t know if he has been shafted. For all we know (as ridiculous as it sounds) he may have only wanted Longstaff in midfield. He may not have wanted to replace Lukaku. We just don’t know.

At other clubs you would have got leaks indicating that the manager was furious with the lack of midfield reinforcements etc but we have had nothing but Ole saying that he is happy with the squad.

Personally I believe that Ed and the board regret appointing Solskjaer on a permanent basis and this has once again affected our summer recruitment.

Appointing such an inexperienced manager to oversee the biggest squad rebuild in over 30 years was farcical and shows how incompetent the board and Ed are.

Even the great Sir Alex would struggle with this squad let alone a guy that is a rookie when it comes to top level football management.
 

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But what good does that do? Does it help him? Does it help the team? Does it improve his relationship with anyone? The answer is no to all those questions. It will be deemed as a negative comment that the board will not look favourably on, and let's not forget, they are his employer. You don't publicly slag your boss off at the first opportunity.

What Solskjaer says to the press and what he says in his meetings to Woodward are completely different. Just because he didn't come out and say he's disappointed doesn't mean he's toeing the line. If anything it may convince the board to back him in January if they see he's making more of an effort to not throw the nobs under the bus at every opportunity.

Anyone that watches football knows to blame for our shortcomings and Solskjaer verbalising that doesn't help the situation in any capacity.
I think it does. When things are going to get tough then the fans will rally around him simply because they know that the club didn't backed him adequately. There's a reason why Pochs planted that negative interview few days ago and which seemed to have had a huge effect on them. No board, not even hard as nails Levy would want to be blamed of everything. Let alone Woodward whom unlike Levy at Spurs, no one really likes.

That doesn't mean he needs to be constantly negative and destructive as Mou was. That will have the contrary effect. Its all about balance really. A well thought comment would show that he'll refuse to be a fall guy without him risking of losing the dressing room.
 

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I think you got that wrong. Poch was not complaining about lack of signings; he was complaining about not being involved. Frankly, he doesn´t sound much happy about his role at Spurs, and I put my money on him being sacked as one of the first this season. He does want to be there anyway (he want´s Ole´s job).
When someone says he's a head coach then the reason for that is almost certainly because they refuse to back the manager financially.
 

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Think fans forgive a lot of failing if they are at least being entertained. It's his first full season when his style can be implemented. If things go well for him, then it is up to the club to build on any feelgood factor there is.
If we play like we did when Ole first came in but come up short, then fans will be forgiving and will back him 100%.

If we are putting out clueless performances like we saw at the end of last season then Ole will have nowhere to hide and he’ll be gone before Xmas.