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Manchester United 1:2 Crystal Palace

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Sat, 24 August 2019

Santoryo

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No red for that foul on Martial and and that was a penalty later not given on Martial.

Mind you makes no difference. We would have missed anyways.
That would have meant playing against 10 men Palace.
 

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I mean on another day we win that 2/3-1. Nevertheless, the fact we make a defensive calamity in the first half then seem to shrink after and as the game goes on is very worrying. No creativity and players looking scared on the ball. I think we need to start blooding the young players so we can at least have some fun watching the team as I’m pretty sure we aren’t going to achieve anything this season. I’m tired of watching the likes of Lingard etc.
Yea and if I was wealthier, more attractive and funnier, I could marry Scarlett Johansson.
 

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The first Palace goal makes you feel sick. All that dominance, all that possession and then to be undone by a punt upfield by their goalkeeper. After that Palace actually started to play well. If we stopped wasting free kicks (Rashford) when we have them in good positions then that would be really helpful.

Pogba and Mctom combo are not the answer in midfield. Greenwood is not ready. Lingard was horrendous again.

Very pleased with James. Despite his inconsistency at times he doesn't hide from the game after being kicked. Pissed that referee didn't bother to check VAR for his supposed dive.
 

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Very little going for us in terms of luck, I was pleased with James's equaliser and we put some pressure on in the second half. Got an absolute kick in the teeth because we were trying to win it.

That's the good and extremely charitable stuff I can say about that. The rest was utter shite. Loads of possession with no end product, the least threatening set pieces I have ever seen, a penalty hoodoo of our own making (Neville was out of order but honestly sort your taker out behind the scenes, we're writing headlines/tweets for the cnuts with our own stupidity), zero creatively, a midfield you can drive a bus through, wobbles at the back and a great shot-stopping keeper getting done at the near stick. Absolute horrific rubbish against a poor side that can only make a United fan worry about the rest of this season.
 

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Very disappointing performance. We just seem to have so many players that don't think "intelligently" when they do have the ball, or they are not taught to think that way. There are so many times where one of our players receives the ball, and then they wait until the opposition are right on them before they move it on, meaning that the passing angles are completely gone and it forces us to play the way the opposition want us to. Our shooting is dreadful, when we actually do create chances. We make the pitch feel small and crammed, when we need to make it wider by stretching the play and creating space. We choose the wrong passes, we overhit and underhit crosses, we waste free kicks (and now penalties), we make the wrong decisions when we do have the ball and we, criminally, give away too many easy goals. Both Palace goals today should have been prevented.

I don't see progression in our team. I don't look at Rashford and Lingard, for example and think that they are better players than when they first appeared as regulars. We have huge, fundamental problems with our football club from a coaching perspective that could actually be improved, to a certain point. Every single one of our players today could have played better than they did. We need to get right back to the absolute basics of the game and re-learn how to play it in order to win. We were never in a position in this game where we even looked remotely close to winning.
 

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Selling Fellaini, Herrera, Lukaku and probably Sánchez and replacing them with 1 Championship winger? What were people actually expecting? This team is a mid table team. Get used to it this season and in the future.
 

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He needs a fecking slap

We are Man Utd - get to the half way line and get score the winner
Some fans needs a bigger slap. First defeat of the season and everyone asking for heads to roll.
 

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after the Chelsea game there were predictions of us being right up there at the end of next month :lol: it was cute the positivity, but it wasn't realistic. This is such a frail and deeply flawed team.
 

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Just on my way back from OT. I am absolutely fuming at the refereeing. Talk about selection all you want, if you don’t get given two obvious penalties and their CB doesn’t get a blatant red you will strugglez
 

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The horrible part of this is that I saw the last half hour of the Palace v Sheffield Utd game, & had the impression Palace could have played until Christmas until they scored. Obviously a different matter against us.

Before people start moaning about our superior possession, poor referee, our amount of shots, & Palaces defensiveness, just remember on shots on goal 3 each. Palace scoring 40% of their total shots & ourselves less than 5%.
 

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Starting to feel like this is actually payback for 20 years of success.

Payback for Ruud banging in 19 pens in a row or something stupid.

Payback for getting Ronaldo.

Payback for the Class of 92.

Karma is a b!tch.
 

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We don't have a midfield. Until we start playing Pogba in his favoured position further forward, and find someone to play in there with Pogba and Scott, we will be garbage. Big bids for one of McGinn or Longstaff will be made in January and that's what we need. Amazing that Fred isn't getting a chance.

De Gea is holding the club to ransom. 'I will play shit until you bow to my astronomical demands'
 

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He needs a fecking slap

We are Man Utd - get to the half way line and get score the winner
His the only one who busted a gut to get the equaliser and he deserves a slap? Don't be stupid. It's the rest of them that need a slap.
 

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Theres no point in having Rashford on the pitch when we are behind and the opposition are sitting deep. He's not good enough to break teams down, ruins any fluidity and he seems to be on his own wavelength.

Lingard too. Can't play the killer pass so why waste the number 10 spot on him.
 

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I'm gonna lose my shit if lingard starts next game at the 10. Gutted for martial injury he was looking like a proper 9. Hopefully nothing serious and back after break
 

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Just on my way back from OT. I am absolutely fuming at the refereeing. Talk about selection all you want, if you don’t get given two obvious penalties and their CB doesn’t get a blatant red you will strugglez
Worse refereeing I ve seen in a while. Got the big decisions wrong..
 

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Give him a break. It was short lived and he is a young lad that's just come from playing for fecking Swansea to scoring goals for United at Old Trafford.

There are a million things to moan about with this game, this is definitely not one of them.

And for what it's worth, I think that the fact that someone as raw as Daniel James is starting games for us and actually one of our better players at the moment is a fecking disgrace in the grand scheme of things (which says more about the rest of our team than James himself).
Agreed. The one bright moment for us was his goal.
 

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Also sell Sanchez and put the final nail in the coffin to finish 8th this season and miss out on targets for next season as well.
 

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Fecking shite. Feck off.

All positivity gone.

We should we haven't changed at all. Still so fecking clueless in front of the goal and doing critical mistakes costing us the games.

Only thing new is the bench is now totally useless and lacks any solutions.
Our bench got worse when we let Fellaini go. We saw that in the second half of last season and twice this week.
 

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Why are our free kicks so poor? The Palace goalie did not have to save one. United simply not good enough in the final third.

Will be a long arduous season. Defence and De Gea let us down today.
 

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Disagree. Ole set up with lots of pace in forward areas, which was the right thing to do. Because running at their packed lines was going to be the only way to disrupt them. It worked several times. Cahill should've had a red card. United should've had two penalties. We had tonnes of free kicks.

The problem was our attackers played in a cowardly fashion until it was too late. To my eyes Wan-Bissaka made more take on attempts than anyone else out there. OPTA will probably tell me I'm wrong but I don't remember any one else really trying to commit Palace. There was a lot of cowardliness out there today. Lots of people hiding from responsibility by laying it off to someone else. Really poor.
There is no space to run into with that pace, you need movement, one twos, triangles, patterns of play and combinations around the box.
 

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Some say the real test was Wolves but actually Palace is the real one and we failed. Still cannot dismantle a very defensive and time wasting sides. No way we will be a champion, Top 4 is too much as well, too difficult. I am happy to be proven wrong.
 

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Inexperienced performance!

This team will have to learn how to play against a team that sits back. But on another day they would have won the 3 points today.

Until then it will be frustrating.
 

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I am going to look at this season like SAF's first years at United. I think the team had sunk to the level of that under DM, LVG and JM. It's going to be some frustrating days like today, but I am going to wait and see where we are a few months down the road. We had a great game against Chelsea, a scrappy game against Wolves, and a poor display today. Lets see what the coaches learned from that before we write off the season. SAF had games against lesser clubs end this way, so I will reserve judgement on the manager for now.
 

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Weird seeing so called United “fans” enjoying United getting beat to prove themselves “right” over transfers
 

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Taking the next corner instead of Jones!
after the Chelsea game there were predictions of us being right up there at the end of next month :lol: it was cute the positivity, but it wasn't realistic. This is such a frail and deeply flawed team.
To be fair, if the late game ends in a draw we'd have been top (on GD) if we'd only just managed to beat the team that couldn't score against 10 man Everton or newly promoted Sheffield United. As Ole said on game day one … "You have to win your home games"

EDIT: Not sure why we're putting out a starting team that seems to be set up for counter attacking against an obvious bus-parking team and manager? Surely it would have been better to put the creative players out first and allow some space for them to do their stuff and then bring on the legs when we've got a couple and the game opens up?
 

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Our bench got worse when we let Fellaini go. We saw that in the second half of last season and twice this week.
When Fellaini was still here, most posters here would moan he s crap and not good enough for MU.
Funny how opinions change
 

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Losing to fecking Palace at home. Feck sake! Having performed reasonably well against Chelsea and Wolves, we've basically thrown those performances out the window with this shower of shite today. These games are a must win and we failed because the lack of creativity issue that myself, including more or less everyone involved with United, mentioned we should have addressed in the summer. Not good enough!
 

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I was happy enough with our performances in the first two games but that was horrific and reminiscent of the shite we had to endure at the back end of last season. Soton away is a must win before the international break or things could get toxic.
 

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He needs a fecking slap

We are Man Utd - get to the half way line and get score the winner
He needs a slap, ffs. He's made a huge step in his career and has some adapting and learning to do but he's playing well and scoring goals already. If he needs a slap, what do the rest need?
 

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Gash. There's a reason we haven't lost to Palace before in the Prem. It's because they are shit.

Didn't strengthen the Midfield. Don't replace Lukaku. Get used to this because there are no alternatives.

The same players doing the same things. There's worse to come.
 

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One thing that is for certain - Crystal Palace won't be the only midtable team to win at Old Trafford this season.
 

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Some of our short range passing is criminal, from playing the ball behind people running, to flat out passing it to the other team. Lingard as our 10 is poison as well, there is literally no way Gomes would be worse than he is.
 

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Possession
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Corners
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