Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

[Adzilla]

Solskjaer unfortunately will be sacked by Christmas. The question is was it solely his decision to get rid of Sanchez knowing we had no one to bring in? Was it his decision that we sold Fellaini, Lukaku and Herrera leaving one free with only James brought in?

Our squad with a top manager would still have us at best 5th or 6th. Unfortunately were likely to have our lowest ever premier league finish this year.

I also don't think were even remotely as a club looking to turn it around. This summer was a chance to go big and sign some names to force our way into 4th or look to challenge. Following this season our options to improve the team will be limited due to anyone of proven or high potential will have much better options

 

[Rhyme Animal]

That's the thing though, they may do a better job but would they do a good enough job? I'd just like to hear some suggestions that's all, and it seems like there's not many going around.
It's one thing to say Soljskaer should go, and with his record many will agree. But I'd genuinely like to hear some viable candidates to replace him and bring us back to where we need to be.

Where 'we need to be' is subjective (and likely idealistic at this point), but in terms of managers that would improve us from Solksjaer...

Rodgers
Nuno
Rafa
Howe

Even duffers like Sean fecking Dyche or Hasenhuttl.

And that's just in the PL.

Throughout all the top leagues in Europe there's obviously about 100 coaches better than Solksjaer - that's why he was sitting at fecking Molde, unwanted by any board (whose jobs it is to scout managerial talent).

It bothers me that someone is sat in the Utd job through nepotism and laziness from the board - it isn't right and it shouldn't be accepted.

Again, that's just my opinion. No disrespect to those who disagree.

 

[Untied]

Pretty bold given Matic came on and just passed poorly and had one wasteful shot.

 

[Godfather]

The excuses made for him he is completely out of his depth and it shouldn't come as a surprise. His CV suggested that this job would be way too big for him and to be honest for anyone with half a brain it was clear to see.

He still hasn't managed to stamp his mark on us. Hasn't got us playing any different than before. His football philosophy can't be seen apart from counter attacking football against teams attacking us. His substitutions are questionable and come too late. He doesn't seem to have much of a tactical clue and sticks to players that aren't good enough. He also has no pull in the transfer market.

 

[dev1l]

So Lampard's Chelsea can score against shit teams but apparently we need a couple of years?

Chelsea don't have a squad bloated with deadwoods.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

Bunch of knee jerks. Seriously get a grip

Get a grip on what? Ignoring problems won’t make them go away.
We’re horrific and he is doing a poor job.
A mid-table squad being coached by amateurs is a recipe for disaster.

 

[reddev3]

it's starting to look pretty bleak now but he was chosen him so we should stick with him until at the earliest Christmas time for me. I also think he might turn to Pogba to save him again after today and mover him further like he did when he first took over, It's the only way we can score.

With Fred nearly back to fitness and Ole starting to look like he's at then of his teether with Lingard I have my fingers crossed.

 

[LJJT]

Why the feck should the Molde manager be in charge of the rebuild? Because he used to play for us? People need to wake up.

Because he’s been given the job now and he knows better than all the previous managers since Fergie what man United is all about and what sort of players we need to sign. The marquee high wage failures are what have put us in this position. Sack ole tonight, bring in allegri or who ever you want we are set back again another year or two. Wake up

 

[Omahahaha]

That's pretty shocking, surely we can't go on like this much longer (the bad form from last season, not just these 4 games).

Then again, when you replace established internationals with young inconsistent players, or no replacements at all, results usually gets worse.

Likewise when you go from world class managers to Norwegian league managers.

 

[cyril C]

Daniel James on form alone won't be enough.

Other players need to step up now.

Weird to say this at this moment, but I still believe in them.

Do you think our problem will disappear if 1 or 2 individual players suddenly go on form? Rashford nor Martial are #9, they only know solo run inside the box, completely incapable of receiving the ball inside the box. There was 1 striker capable of that but Ole sold him. Every ball that we score (including missed) came from opponent making mistake, whether in MF or inside the box. We simply fail to create our own chances.

Whatever problem that Mourinho identified still exist, Ole only manages to fix the CB problem as well as RB. I am not saying Mourinho was fault-less, because he created some of these problems himself.

 

[Andersonson]

Get a grip on what? Ignoring problems won’t make them go away.
We’re a disaster.

We've played 4 games this season. Four!

And that with a new backline and a team in complete rebuild stage...

I say it again. Four!

 

[Skills]

We need to stick with him. Just to finally clear the fanbases obsession giving managers time and patience.

 

[dev1l]

Get a grip on what? Ignoring problems won’t make them go away.
We’re horrific and he is doing a poor job.
A mid-table squad being coached by amateurs is a recipe for disaster.

Luckily we have a lot of smart fans

 

[arthurka]

Yes and we are building up a team full of youth.

 

[haram]

Because he’s been given the job now and he knows better than all the previous managers since Fergie what man United is all about and what sort of players we need to sign. The marquee high wage failures are what have put us in this position. Sack ole tonight, bring in allegri or who ever you want we are set back again another year or two. Wake up

So we should have just hired Steve Bruce then.

 

[bazalini]

Literally any manager in Prem will be doing a better job than him.

You could take a warm corpse out of the morgue and pop him on the sidelines and he would offer more then Ole

 

[Gandalf]

It's not bullshit. You need to deal with the fact that Pochettino has long preferred to stay with Spurs rather than come to United.

You are still deluding yourself that a big club wants the specialist in failure in your dugout? Not one concrete job offer has come his way since he settled in to ride on Kane's coattails, the only one talking him up to Madrid or Manchester is his agent.

 

[ooeat0meoo]

Except it is going better for Frank at the moment.

At the moment Lamps is looking better.
I am excited by the prospects of some of the new talent brought in this season. The team still needs players that can get vertical to challenge up top. The entire side looks flat on almost all corners.

This is a rough patch, and yeah it sucks it's happening now when we all expect our side to be rolling over the competitors like Southampton. Either Ole pushes them to improve or he will be forced out by x-mas as someone else posted on the last page here.

 

[PlayerOne]

Sadly, he will get sacked. Just matter of time

 

[Untd55]

Last 16 games:

3 Wins 4 Draws in 16

OR

13 out of 48 points

 

[tomaldinho1]

Because he’s been given the job now and he knows better than all the previous managers since Fergie what man United is all about and what sort of players we need to sign. The marquee high wage failures are what have put us in this position. Sack ole tonight, bring in allegri or who ever you want we are set back again another year or two. Wake up

Sadly this is what we need to change - the world has moved on from how we played under Fergie, it's about time we did too.

 

[Denis79]

Yes, that is a bad win rate for any manager... but it's not necessarily all his control. If this was City and he had that squad and carte blanche, then yeah he deserves to get sacked.

However he's dealing with a bloated and overpaid squad, and a board that's almost bipolar in their decisions.

"We're happy to announce record profits and record sponsorship revenue" then spend only £70m net

"We will look for a director of football before hiring a permanent manager" then don't appoint a DoF

"Jose Mourinho represents Utd's future as he signs a new deal" then spend only £70m net the following summer

Think it was 50?

 

[Nou_Camp99]

Ole isn't up to it, no, but if Jose n LVG can't make.it work then what hope does he have? They are both far superior managers to him.

The problems at the club are from above. The owners who are bleeding us dry and the twat of a CEO.

 

[LJJT]

1. There are literally thousands of better coaches than Solksjaer in World footy

2. Mourinho actually won trophies here

Ok then let’s sack him tonight. Who we getting in tomorrow? Roy Hodgson? He will want to sell half the players we recently brought in, maybe wish we never shipped out half the lads we have done. The next manager will find we still have the same issues as we’ve had the last 5/6 years. Poor signings on too much money who don’t give a shit. Who we can’t get rid of. We are in a constant cycle of chopping and changing and we need to stay as we are now and see this thru another two transfer windows minimum

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

He got international break now. Got 2 weeks to think how to resolve the situation. I think it’s not impossible to turn it around for Ole now, our players aren’t title challenger but there are some good players in the squad that Ole can use in formation that can suit them to play exciting football.

 

[LJJT]

So we should have just hired Steve Bruce then.

I wouldn’t have been against that, I rate Steve Bruce and he knows what we are all about. We’ve made our choice now stick with it

 

[Di Maria's angel]

'Lampard's Chelsea' being the team that finished 3rd and won the Europa league last season?

They came 3rd and won Europa League. They have a better squad than we do, even without Hazard.

We also finished 2nd 1 year ago.

 

[Stadjer]

Unfortunately I'm not that surprised given the direction he has gone since becoming permanent manager. He's basically moved the team in a direction that a lot of posters in here were suggesting. 19% win rate sounds about right for that

Really? I see a lot of people not wanting Lingard and wanting to buy two different midfielders to form a midfield with Pogba.

 

[lawliet354]

Chelsea don't have a squad bloated with deadwoods.

You say that but Lampard looks to be more tactically adept and he really trust the youngster, compare it with Ole who hype the youngster in press conference but keep playing Lingard, Pereira, and Lindelof

 

[LJJT]

Sadly this is what we need to change - the world has moved on from how we played under Fergie, it's about time we did too.

Yeah it has but man United is Man united. We should be challenging for everything, playing entertaining fast energetic football with exciting young players. Not filling it full of mercenaries for twitter followers

 

[groovyalbert]

Ole isn't up to it, no, but if Jose n LVG can't make.it work then what hope does he have? They are both far superior managers to him.

The problems at the club are from above. The owners who are bleeding us dry and the twat of a CEO.

Yeah, fans need to start directing their anger at the board now. After 6/7 years of silver studded failure, you have to start drawing links between the continuities to unearth the root causes of our problems.

 

[haram]

I wouldn’t have been against that, I rate Steve Bruce and he knows what we are all about. We’ve made our choice now stick with it

Here you have, the exact reason why Solskjaer should not be manager.

 

[shabz]

We need so much more to compete and until we get it, we can count on this trend remaining through the season.

We will finish outside the top 6 for me, and wont go far in the knockouts for the Europa League.

 

[AshRK]

Literally any manager in Prem will be doing a better job than him.

With this quality we have I doubt the results would have been any different.

 

[liamp]

Out of context, this quote doesn't sound particularly good.

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[Andycoleno9]

Its not a daft question to ask who would be able to replace him and get the results we're after.
Fair enough if Solsjkaer isn't a good manager, but who would you like to replace him? All I'm asking for is someone who plays a good brand of football, has managed at a decent level, and is available.
So far the suggestions have been Poch, who ticks the boxes but isn't available, and Allegri, who although I like plays a very boring brand of football.
Do you have any other suggestions? If so i promise you I'm all ears mate.

As i said; any PL manager would be upgrade. Now you can list them and write your excuses for every of them:
"Not good", "not available", "too defensive", "doesn't know the club"....that is the point of your question, right?

 

[meamth]

Ok his record since he took over is 33 games is still less than moyes over his 33 games here

Seriously, we can bring that up if this is the same squad as last season.

Reality is, we are again in transition period. A major one since Fergie.

If I'm going to judge this squad's win percentage is with this 4 games. That is fair.

 

[Leftback99]

We also finished 2nd 1 year ago.

Which Mourinho himself said was one of his greatest ever achievements. It's quite clear why by now.

 

[beer&grill]

Ole is all smiles in the press conference after yet another embarassing display. Says it all really.

 

[Massive Spanner]

Seriously, we can bring that up if this is the same squad as last season.

Reality is, we are again in transition period. A major one since Fergie.

If I'm going to judge this squad's win percentage is with this 4 games. That is fair.

So... 25%

I guess it's better than 21%..