C-R-I-S-I-S: Ole Era 2019/2020

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Going by results your right but look at our squad. Most people wanted rid of crap and got it but the glazers/the owners...talk of value...talk of jan/next summer...I think we've a young team but we're so short of players. The owners for me are completely responsible. When you buy into success and don't know how to create it and you cannot compete, sell the club. I don't blame ole because a lot of managers would struggle. We are SHORT of players. We got rid of decent players, at a time many retired. There have been so many stupid decisions but they love the money right. Let's be realistic.
You can talk about squad being not good enough when we play against City, Liverpool and arguably Spurs. However our squad is good enough to win against the likes of Rochdale, Newcastle, Southampton or any other relegation fodder. Players are regressing with Ole in charge.
 

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Well we will be in a race this season, just not the race we want! We were in a similar situation with Fergie when he won the 1990 FA cup but I don't see the same fight in this team.

Strap in for the ride, it going to be bumpy!
Ha now that is some long term perspective. I don't disagree.... we have been so so arrogant not believing that a team with our money can fall out of the top 10, and no way in hell we flirt with the relegation zone. Well we better think again. Football clubs need to focus on playing good football and then everything else follows from there. We have wrecked ourselves and genuinely look a broken team at the moment.
 

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My thoughts on some of the reasons were in a bad way:

- We have Ed Woodward who doesn’t understand football pulling the strings behind the scenes.
- A manager who’s only achievement is here is being relegated.
- Sold experienced players without replacing them, now our only source of depth are academy boys and we’re asking them to dig us out of a hole.
- No clear pattern or identity in the way we play, can anyone say what our style is?
- 4-2-3-1, we don’t utilise the 10, what’s the point?
- Simply put our players aren’t good enough, Lingard, Mata, Perreira, Fred, Young don’t get into any other premier league 11.
- Our squad is so bare that Martial, Pogba, and our 2 full backs being out cripples us.
- Our right side has been a disgrace for years and has become a black hole. Why an open goal of a signing for any United manager, we just end up shuffling the ball left and right with no purpose, the way we scored with fergie was causing chaos and overloading the wings until teams buckled, who in our team runs at players? Why would anyone be afraid of this team?
 

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Did Liverpool have a more miserable season in 1990-2019 than Man Utd 2019-20? Did Liverpool ever flirt with relegation after 1990? Because Man Utd is currently two points off relegation.
 

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My thoughts on some of the reasons were in a bad way:

- We have Ed Woodward who doesn’t understand football pulling the strings behind the scenes.
- A manager who’s only achievement is here is being relegated.
- Sold experienced players without replacing them, now our only source of depth are academy boys and we’re asking them to dig us out of a hole.
- No clear pattern or identity in the way we play, can anyone say what our style is?
- 4-2-3-1, we don’t utilise the 10, what’s the point?
- Simply put our players aren’t good enough, Lingard, Mata, Perreira, Fred, Young don’t get into any other premier league 11.
- Our squad is so bare that Martial, Pogba, and our 2 full backs being out cripples us.
- Our right side has been a disgrace for years and has become a black hole. Why an open goal of a signing for any United manager, we just end up shuffling the ball left and right with no purpose, the way we scored with fergie was causing chaos and overloading the wings until teams buckled, who in our team runs at players? Why would anyone be afraid of this team?

Lingard, Mata, Perreira, Fred, Young are definitely not good enough.

The problem is that someone like Rashford looks a completely useless footballer at the moment. I mean utter trash. And he is being payed a small fortune every week before even proving he could be a senior player... until now he has been secondary young player only. We are so badly managed it is extraordinary.

He is being paid more with incentives than anybody in the Liverpool squad..... yes anybody. Salah, Van Dijk, Firminho, Mane (twice the amount!).

We are a totally ineptly run club. And yes we are a relegation risk because of it. When I told people it would get worse before it got better this is what I meant.... the rot is deep and we haven't even begun to try and fix it yet.
 

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There's a manager who has won the Champions League, Europa League, Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup, Charity Shield, Serie A, Coppa Italia, La Liga, Copa del Rey, Supercopa de Espana, Premieira Liga, and Taca de Portugal who is currently available, and apparently knows Manchester quite well.
feck me we just got rid of him last year. No thanks
 

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My thoughts on some of the reasons were in a bad way:

- We have Ed Woodward who doesn’t understand football pulling the strings behind the scenes.
- A manager who’s only achievement is here is being relegated.
- Sold experienced players without replacing them, now our only source of depth are academy boys and we’re asking them to dig us out of a hole.
- No clear pattern or identity in the way we play, can anyone say what our style is?
- 4-2-3-1, we don’t utilise the 10, what’s the point?
- Simply put our players aren’t good enough, Lingard, Mata, Perreira, Fred, Young don’t get into any other premier league 11.
- Our squad is so bare that Martial, Pogba, and our 2 full backs being out cripples us.
- Our right side has been a disgrace for years and has become a black hole. Why an open goal of a signing for any United manager, we just end up shuffling the ball left and right with no purpose, the way we scored with fergie was causing chaos and overloading the wings until teams buckled, who in our team runs at players? Why would anyone be afraid of this team?
Great post, 100% true. Especially with our academy boys digging us out of a hole. The decision not to add any attacking players in the summer apart from James is costing us dearly.

Also Solskjaer's persistence to play a 4-2-3-1 is baffling. This was true for mourinho too. It's not worked in how many games? Shake things up a little! Surprise the opposition!
 

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Did Liverpool have a more miserable season in 1990-2019 than Man Utd 2019-20? Did Liverpool ever flirt with relegation after 1990? Because Man Utd is currently two points off relegation.
The season they had Hodgson for 6 months I think they were just above the relegation zone at points and ultimately finished 8th I think

That was probably their worst season.

If Ole stays all season, we could go lower than that for sure.
 

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Great post, 100% true. Especially with our academy boys digging us out of a hole. The decision not to add any attacking players in the summer apart from James is costing us dearly.

Also Solskjaer's persistence to play a 4-2-3-1 is baffling. This was true for mourinho too. It's not worked in how many games? Shake things up a little! Surprise the opposition!
Do any other big side play this formation anymore?

Completely agree, every game we play the same tumescent football, predictable, need to change it up before it’s too late.
 

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Back the manager. Despite absolutely no evidence/indication of it, Ole will build something here that will rival the Ming dynasty.
An idiot will never build anything good. Ole favours shit players and rewards shit performance - that’s all he does here.
 

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Jose says his greatest managerial achievement so far is coming second with this team. People said he was off his rocker....
 

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Honestly, we’re about where our current squad suggests, especially given the current injuries. I’m all for playing youth but they have to be good enough, and many of the senior players are either substandard or past their best
 

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Honestly, we’re about where our current squad suggests, especially given the current injuries. I’m all for playing youth but they have to be good enough, and many of the senior players are either substandard or past their best
I think they are good enough to be blooded into a strong team but not to heap pressure on them by playing them with players that have gone past the decline...
 

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I remember this game. "Can it run crisis?".
Graphical powerhouse...
I used to get a glitch where turtles could be lobbed into the air using Maximum Strength but they would get stuck up there and that resulted in red barrels exploding whenever you got near them. Didn't have to touch them - they would just explode for no reason.

It took time but I eventually figured out the problem; Woodward and the Glazers. No matter what I did to fix it; lower settings, update drivers, replace the manager every 18 months. I would still get the same errors.

Then people on forums would say things like rEiNsTaLl It.

No. That won't fix it. The problem is the fecking Glazers.

It's like how we all blame poor people and immigrants for the banking crisis. It was the fecking banks. We saw them do it! And they're still doing it and nobody cares! "But just get rid of the poor people and immigrants and that'll fix it". It won't because we've got the same fecking banks as before and we're heading towards another housing bubble because twunts like you were sold a lie and you gobbled it up because you like easy fixes. Now you sit idly by, dusting your hands saying "job done" whilst they snort hooker ass coke and continue to sell sub prime mortgages to people who can't pay them back. And they're laughing their fecking asses all the way to the, well, the fecking banks!

THE BANKS! THE FECKING BA - SHIT, I MEAN GLAZERS!
 

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I think they are good enough to be blooded into a strong team but not to heap pressure on them by playing them with players that have gone past the decline...
Yeah exactly, Ferguson knew how to give young players a chance knowing they would be surrounded by serial match winners, current managers don’t have those kinda players at their disposal to gradually blood young players in
 

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Yeah exactly, Ferguson knew how to give young players a chance knowing they would be surrounded by serial match winners, current managers don’t have those kinda players at their disposal to gradually blood young players in
Imagine being thrown on and asked to rescue the team at that age also. I can’t remember many teenagers that were so heavily depended on/ given such high responsibility or expectation week in week out by SAF. I feel for Ole as he has inherited a terrible squad, I’m seriously worried though as it really doesn’t feel like he has a plan A let alone a plan B.
 

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We could go down if we don't make a change. Ole has lost this group. They are a poor group but they aren't this poor.
I honestly think they are this poor. This is about par for the course for this bunch. From midfield to striker it's absolutely dire.
 

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Why can't this be talked about in one of the million threads about how bad he is ? how he is a yes man ? how he is a clown and how he isn't even suited to be a kitman ? how about the would you sack Ole one ?

It's getting tiresome.
 

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The biggest issue i have right now is how shit our squad is. I don't believe any manager can get top 4 with this squad. All the blame will go to Ed and Ole for me. How can you dismantle a squad with atleast 4 key players and put these useless pieces or shits in the squad.

I would only keep Pogba, Martial, Ddg, Maguire, Tuanzebe, Shaw, Wan Bissaka, Gomes and Greenwood from this squad. James and Mctominay are backups only. All others must be replaced.

Its criminal how our squad have been decimated gradually. We need atleast 6 first team players to look a half decent side. The likes of Westham, Wolves and Leicester have better front six than us.
You have mentioned 12 names there. So are you saying that those players will help us top 4 or challenge for title?

Arsenal have a weaker squad and are 3rd.

Don't blame the squad, the manager is to blame here.
 

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Our fanbase is stupid, we deserve all this shite we get. Over 50% of our fans still think we should keep Ole in charge even though he is the worst manager we had in 3 decades.
There should be special mention for the idiots that want Ole to be our DoF. I mean the guy was a manager before and he is not up to it, why do these idiots want him to be a DoF when he has zero experience on the job.

Also the idiots that think once Ole gets a couple of assistant managers, we'd be good. If that happened and we somehow got better, how'd Ole look?
 

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Apparently he's not good enough for United they say. Bring on young attacking modern coach to unleash the pog and martians
He needed to go apparently. Playing players like Fellaini, Lukaku, Sanchez, and throwing everyone under the bus to the media instead of keeping it in-house.
Meanwhile, Ole also needs to go for being crazy enough to sell players like Fellaini, Lukaku and Sanchez, and for refusing to call out our players in public.
 

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Just been reading various Solskjaer post match comments and he's going full Hodgson at present.

These are Hodgson's views regarding his Liverpool teams underwhelming 0-0 result away to Dutch side Utrecht in the Europa League.
"It is a good point," Hodgson said.
"We knew it was going to be tough.The problems we had were largely of our own making but in terms of shape and the way we approached the game I've got nothing but praise for the team"
Sounds familiar.
 

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Our fanbase is stupid, we deserve all this shite we get. Over 50% of our fans still think we should keep Ole in charge even though he is the worst manager we had in 3 decades.
every time I look at that poll, I lose some of my life energy.
 

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This is far worse than anything of the past 6 years. We're in relegation fight ffs.
And if that is the case, we should be extremely worried because it is absolutely clear that the squad is nothing like mentality tough enough to cope with the difficulties of a relegation scrap.
To win football matches you first have to keep a clean sheet.
Then you have to create chances and score a high percentage of those.
Now....which of these are we good at.
 

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There should be special mention for the idiots that want Ole to be our DoF. I mean the guy was a manager before and he is not up to it, why do these idiots want him to be a DoF when he has zero experience on the job.

Also the idiots that think once Ole gets a couple of assistant managers, we'd be good. If that happened and we somehow got better, how'd Ole look?
Sentiment.. the reason why our club is ruined. We need to stop and become ruthless. Why are we so soft as a club?

Ole is a legend as a player, that does not mean he deserves more time or he will miraculously turn it around.

The same applies to players like Rashford, Gomes, Young, Smalling, Jones, Mata, Lingard, Perreira etc. Just because they are academy players does not mean they are good enough or they were good players in the past. No, these players are not good enough. Why Perreira got another contract when he will be hard to shift? let him go rather than having the hope he might come good.

We can have 1/2 players like that around the squad but at the moment, 70% of the squad is that. No consistent quality.