totally agree, the hysteria is ridiculous with people ready to criticise about anything - he is obviously struggling at the moment but still deserves more respect as the rebuild job is not easy
Solskjaer's interview with Neville
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Those scruffy ruffy goals and Martial is definitely what we need to bring the glory days back.
Rashford used to score those scruffy goals, but he's just hardly ever where you want your striker to be these days. His overall play is confused.
As much as I think Ole seems out of his depth I'm convinced he'll have atleast the whole campaign to put down his philosophy.
We need serious work to be done in January if United continue with him,though.
We need serious work to be done in January if United continue with him,though.
I'm sure most people would understand if he literally sat down and gave a basic tactics lesson and explained what concepts and patterns he was trying to lay down, but why would he waste his own time preparing something like that? His job is not to teach people how to coach or how coaches think. He's got enough on his plate.
Oh great, another interview
It’s probably not a big thing but I do wonder if Ole’s propensity for using nicknames undermines his standing a bit.
I’m not sure you’d hear Guardiola, Mourinho, Klopp, Conte et al talking about “Rashy, Deano and Youngy” in public. Sir Alex would call Rooney a nickname in training, but never in a public interview.
Our players probably see Solskjaer as far too matey, and god knows they need someone to shake them up.
I’m not sure you’d hear Guardiola, Mourinho, Klopp, Conte et al talking about “Rashy, Deano and Youngy” in public. Sir Alex would call Rooney a nickname in training, but never in a public interview.
Our players probably see Solskjaer as far too matey, and god knows they need someone to shake them up.
I've said it a few times already, he would make a great politician.
That he was obliged to undertake as part of the managers public responsibilities.Oh great, another interview
Seriously, some of you who comment in this thread should be ashamed of yourselves. No really. It's baffling to me how you can sit and spew out so much vile hatred for someone you have never met, don't know, and my favorite part: Dont suggest a single thing yourselves. ALL you do is complain.
Just grow up and start acting like adults. It's fine that you might disagree with the way we play but at least try to be helpful about it. Or at least downright civil?
DDG, Pogba, AWB, Shaw, Martial, Greenwood, Dalot all out injured. Rashford is completely out of form.
Tell me, oh wise ones. How do you set up the team, what do you tell them to do, and who do you rely on to score the goals?
Rules)
A) You cant make stuff up. ie. be honest, you're not a truthseer
B) Explain why you think x person is key, and what is his role - Things to remember: Has he played in that position before this season? And did he do well?
C) What is your tactic to defeat Liverpool using the personel currently ready to play.
At least bother trying to answer. If the next thing you're going to do is go "BOOHOO AWFUL" - Travel to Jersusalem, they have a whole wall you can complain to.
All those posters that didn't like Jose calling a spade a spade are now getting exactly what they deserve. Spoon-fed naive positivity, cliches and delusion. I hate to talk like this about a legend, which he always will be, but he inspires absolutely no confidence. Like somebody else said, and I have thought this for a while, but it feels like Ole is acting how he thinks a manager should act. Seems completely unnatural to him.
Imagine SAF calling Rooney "Wazza" in a press conference
Ole is constantly yelling at the players during training and on the pitch. There are videos of this very thing happening. Many of them.
We have to start separating the public Ole from the behind closed doors one, they are not the same person.
Agreed. The guy is beginning to sound like a puppet and for his own sake, he should just quit talking like this, or just leave.
The structure at the club is far from fine and Neville himself has said it. Everyone can see it's far from fine, so Ole really should just quit whilst he has some credibility with the fans.
I have heard SAF call him Wazza.Imagine SAF calling Rooney "Wazza" in a press conference
Nothing unusual about it, they're a group of people who spend a lot of time together, many have nicknames.
No big deal, stop being so dramatic about the tiniest details.
Cue "what do you expect him to say". Truth is for right and wrong reasons many managers don't want more football positions above them to water down their power or overrule their decisions.
I don't think anyone's expecting to see patterns and the like, but this is his chance to reassure fans, who he obviously cares about, and give them a decent answer. I highly doubt the questions came as a surprise to him and it wouldn't have taken more than a minute to think what might go down better than 'we need more luck'.
Having your key players fit and playing isn't luck.
His winning rate is 20% (since he's been in charge for 8 months, and had another 3 months summer to train his players) and the team is lingering in relegation zone. Surely a much better show that he actually has a concrete plan and knows what he's doing are long overdue.
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This is epic. Fans are now getting at Ole for calling players with nicknames.
Klopp calls Roberto Firminho - Bobby
Klopp calls Mohammed Salah - Mo
He even called Mane with by Sadio (his first name)
He even called Wijnaldum Gini
I am sure I have heard pep call Messi Leo instead or Lionel too.
This.
Dalot, Shaw, AWB should be back so why can we not pick from those? So should Greenwood.
Ole should go with 4-2-3-1 because this is realistic and he wont change systems easily
But realistically he could change to a 3-5-2
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Ermm he did, many many times. In interviews and pressers. Maybe not to the extent Ole does. He also always said Giggsey, Scholesy, Becks and so on..Imagine SAF calling Rooney "Wazza" in a press conference
He essentially said once they're back we'll have more luck and apparently put away chances, despite us not really creating any. I'm not convinced we'll do loads better when we can barely get a shot off at the moment. We better hope Pogba returns with one of his purple patches because that's the only way we'll something different.
As if I needed any more reasons to think Ole is not the right man to take us forward. Clueless interview.
I agree. We all knew this was going to be a very tough task for any manager and for people to say he is out of his depth without giving him a fair chance is bad. I feel for him really, and he should be given another 2 windows to prove himself. Then if there isn't a huge improvement, he will be moved out.
that’s why I prefaced it with “probably not a big thing” - it just struck me after watching that interview.
You’re right about Klopp, but then he’s vastly more experienced and has won major titles
As part of a wider question I do wonder if he has the respect of the dressing room in that way - the arguments over the penalty taker earlier this season and his inability to firmly outline whose responsibility that was set alarm bells ringing for me
Any good nickname for Ole in this thread which we havent heard of?
The last minute goal against Hull always comes to mind. I think he’s just trying to work out what player he wants to be and is struggling for it.
On what ole said, why have people skimmed over the bit where he says they’re practicing patterns? Isn’t that a massive criticism that people ignorantly claim we don’t do? I agree he’s pinning far too much hope on martial and rashford who haven’t been able to stay fit or form has tanked, but he’s obviously doing what any other manager would do. It’s clear to see we didn’t buy enough in the summer. he’s partially to blame for that but feck me, the way people go on about him you’d think this is the LMA the way how everyone else could do a better job.
So the answer to our woeful attack is scruffy goals?
Seems like a good plan.
Seems like a good plan.
Oh this is nice.
Devilish never disappoints with shitting on United legends.
Stop pretending you know him. You berated others for criziting the guy they never met and didnt know personally yet you have no problem defending him while you yourself dont know much about him.
He was right.
United is much worse under ole, and valencia too very much worse under neville.
...I’m really not sure he did you know. He tended to refer to Rooney as “Wayne” and Scholes “Paul”
I definitely don’t remember him ever calling Beckham “Becks”
Neville destroyed Valencia? Really?
Yes that is fair - the summer recruitment was good, just not enough. The squad is too thin for Ole to be judged already
Ole " We just need our players to score scruffy goals"
Neville " And how are you going to get them to score these scruffy goals ? "
Ole " Well,we just need our players to score scruffy goals"
Neville " But how are you going to get them to score these scruffy goals ? "
Ole " Well,we just need our players to score scruffy goals"
Neville " Interesting.Interesting "
Ole " We just need our players to score scruffy goals. Its that simple"
Neville " And how are you going to get them to score these scruffy goals ? "
Ole " Well,we just need our players to score scruffy goals"
Neville " But how are you going to get them to score these scruffy goals ? "
Ole " Well,we just need our players to score scruffy goals"
Neville " Interesting.Interesting "
Ole " We just need our players to score scruffy goals. Its that simple"
He can't though. He's tactically inept and useless on side lines as we see ourselves per game. The positive delusional nonsense he's spouting left, right and center is about the only thing he can say. He's also probably too afraid to be sacked by Glazers and Ed so went on and defended the structure of the club. This will happen every interview. He has nothing else to say.
I doubt he's saying anything different to the players because otherwise our tactics wouldn't have been that shite, or even non existent all together.
So now you have to be experienced manager to have a good rapport with the playing staff? He can call them whatever he wants as long as they perform.
In respects to the respect in the dressing room, it is unfair to say that because no player has come out and said a bad word about Ole unlike when Jose was in charge.
Does that mean, Frank Lampard doesn't have the respect in the dressing room either at Chelsea? Similar situation happened there but because it is not Manutd it wasn't a big deal.
What are you talking about? I berate people for acting like absolute assh*les. And I literally wrote that the videos of Ole lambasting the players clearly shows that he's not the clueless niceguy that the caf regulars are painting him as. Oh and theres testimony from his former players that confirms that as well.
I'm literally not making a single thing up.