Ed Woodward 2019 - Until all Arctic ice melts edition

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Go fist yourself, Edward.
He is right. All our transfers were given the go ahead by the manager. I don't think Woodward knew that the likes of James or Blind existed. However if the football men asks for 7 signings and he ends up concluding just 3 of them simply because the club is too slow and incompetent to get deals done then that will of course impact the football side
 

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He is right. All our transfers were given the go ahead by the manager. I don't think Woodward knew that the likes of James or Blind existed. However if the football men asks for 7 signings and he ends up concluding just 3 of them simply because the club is too slow and incompetent to get deals done then that will of course impact the football side
I can't knock Ed on giving it a go. He obviously has tried. He just now needs to let someone help him. My preferred choice is Rangnick but Campos is a close 2nd.
 

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I don't get this briefing by Woodward at all. Fighting talk but surely this will come back to bite him cuz there is no guarantee of Ole surviving even the Liverpool game. What happens if we are tonked 3-0? Or if we cont to lose and are in relegation zone?

Why this bravado when we are in such shit position?
Because Woodward has staked his current status on Ole succeeding. I don't think he will be fired along with Ole but he will emerge from the Ole shambles with much less power and influence than he has for the last six years. There is simply no way the Glazers are going to pay off a third long managerial contract in 6 years and continue trusting Woodward explicitly with their most prized asset that is fast losing value on account of his ineptitude. The way I see it is that after Ole is sacked, and its now just a matter of when, Woodward will be forced to cede all footballing power to a DOF and this is why he is on the defensive.
 

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Approx. 600m spent on players in the last 6 years. Hey , you can still choose to say managers weren't supported and needed more money. Fact is, managers who spent that money were clueless or not spending on the right players.

No wonder why Ed want to take charge of it.
You're missing the point. They spent the money for LVG. He spent on possession based players. Then they hire Jose, he needs a totally different type of player to LVG, so the majority of the money spent for LVG was wasted. Jose needed to get rid of possession based players for anti possession, counter attack players.

It's like investing to build a house. Then halfway through you keep knocking it down and starting again with a new design, a new builder. But you only give each builder enough money to build half a house!

The lurching from opposingly different styles of play from manager to manager has meant that every time we start again.

That is on Ed. You want him to take charge of it again!!? Wow.
 
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You're missing the point. They spent the money for LVG. He spent on possession based players. Then they hire Jose, he needs a totally different type of player then LVG so the majority of the money spent for LVG was wasted. He needs to get rid of possession based players for anto possession, counter attack players.

It's like investing to build a house. Then halfway through you keep knocking it down and starting again with a new design, a new builder. But you only give each builder enough money to build half a house!

The lurching from opposingly different styles of play from manager to manager has meant that every time we start again.

That is on Ed. You want him to take charge of it again!!? Wow.
And then we went for "youth, courage, success" route which brought us to the current state of the team which is nothing less than shambolic as a direct consequence of all these decisions.

Wonder which will be our slogan and direction for next year.

It's not Ed's job to tell Manager 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 that player c, g, k, p and v aren't good enough, it's to support the Managers and make as much money available for incoming transfers/new contracts as he can, and he's done a bloody job of that, he's a Managers dream.
And a supporters nightmare.
 

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And then we went for "youth, courage, success" route which brought us to the current state of the team which is nothing less than shambolic as a direct consequence of all these decisions.

Wonder which will be our slogan and direction for next year.
Blind loyalty.
 

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It's not Ed's job to tell Manager 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 that player c, g, k, p and v aren't good enough, it's to support the Managers and make as much money available for incoming transfers/new contracts as he can, and he's done a bloody job of that, he's a Managers dream.
Why would any manager want to sell any player then? Balancing the book is not their job. They obviously don't care if they have a Phil Jones in the team, worst case scenario, he'll be luxury ball boy.
If you ask any of them, they want new toys and whatever. That's exact attitude is why we still have Rojo in the team.

We have biggest wage bill in the league ffs and you are here telling me it isn't CEO's job then what is? Damage control?

Opportunity cost is opportunity cost. We don't have unlimited budget and our model is outdated for current market.
 

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He has very publicly nailed his colours to Ole's mast over the past year, which puts him in a pretty much untenable position once Solskjaer goes down. He has not made such public proclamations of support for any of the other managers under his tenure, so I think this is his last throw of the dice.

I'd love to see the back of him. Glazers too of course, but this guy will go first.
 

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Why would any manager want to sell any player then? Balancing the book is not their job. They obviously don't care if they have a Phil Jones in the team, worst case scenario, he'll be luxury ball boy.
If you ask any of them, they want new toys and whatever. That's exact attitude is why we still have Rojo in the team.

Opportunity cost is opportunity cost. We don't have unlimited budget and our model is outdated for current market.

We have biggest wage bill in the league ffs and you are here telling me it isn't CEO's job then what is? Damage control?
It is 100% Ed's fault. He's the man in charge. He and and his board, decides what happens at the club.

With all these press briefings, they're definitely feeling the heat. How can you come out and brief that things are going well? People who lap this up and side with him, how? It's no longer left to opinion whether he's doing a good or bad job, it's now factual that he's doing a TERRIBLE job!
 

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The tragic part is that he is telling the truth, at United football decisions are supposed to be taken by a combination of Butt, Murtough and the manager depending on whether we are talking about the first team or the academy. Now people have wondered about the common denominator since 2013 and on that side of the club it's Murtough, someone that people completely ignored until a week or two ago.
 

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The tragic part is that he is telling the truth, at United football decisions are supposed to be taken by a combination of Butt, Murtough and the manager depending on wether we are talking about the first team or the academy. Now people have wondered about the common denominator since 2013 and on that side of the club it's Murtough, someone that people completely ignored until a week or two ago.
Bus, Under, Throw
 

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Why would any manager want to sell any player then? Balancing the book is not their job. They obviously don't care if they have a Phil Jones in the team, worst case scenario, he'll be luxury ball boy.
If you ask any of them, they want new toys and whatever. That's exact attitude is why we still have Rojo in the team.

We have biggest wage bill in the league ffs and you are here telling me it isn't CEO's job then what is? Damage control?

Opportunity cost is opportunity cost. We don't have unlimited budget and our model is outdated for current market.
The Manager whoever he is still needs a squad, and if he feels certain players are worth keeping around in case of injuries it makes sense to, as long as they are not disruptive what's the harm, it's not as though we've got half a dozen players like Winston Bogarde sat around counting their pennies making no effort to get into the team.
 

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Maybe his next interview will be about why he fvcks around for months in the summer not making transfers and goes on holiday instead. But manages to spend an awful lot of time smarming around noodle organisations making money for his parasitic pathogen employers.

and while we’re at it let’s hope those w@nkstains that own the club start ‘releasing’ charm offensives soon too
 

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The tragic part is that he is telling the truth, at United football decisions are supposed to be taken by a combination of Butt, Murtough and the manager depending on whether we are talking about the first team or the academy. Now people have wondered about the common denominator since 2013 and on that side of the club it's Murtough, someone that people completely ignored until a week or two ago.
That wouldn't be John Murtough, a Scouser brought to the club by David Moyes would it? :nervous:
 

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Maybe his next interview will be about why he fvcks around for months in the summer not making transfers and goes on holiday instead. But manages to spend an awful lot of time smarming around noodle organisations making money for his parasitic pathogen employers.

and while we’re at it let’s hope those w@nkstains that own the club start ‘releasing’ charm offensives soon too
Ah another one that believes everything they read.
 

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That wouldn't be John Murtough, a Scouser brought to the club by David Moyes would it? :nervous:
He wasn't brought by Moyes but Woodward and he is a director.

Bus, Under, Throw
Well both Woodward and Murtough should be under that bus, the former for hiring him and changing everyone but him and the latter for seemingly not doing his job properly. But from the outside it's weird that he has been barely mentioned in the last 6 years when some journalist supposed to be in the know pretended that there was no football man above the manager.
 

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Can he just stop talking? Mere mention of his name irritates me nowadays when I come across it.
 

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Hes full of sh*t! hes not bluffing anyone here.

What an arrogant statement to make. I think they might actually be feeling some of the criticism at the higher level if they are coming out with this nonsense. Funny how he puts full blame and responsibility on for tranfser decisions on Ole here, yet how many times has Ole (and previously Jose) said when it comes to transfers and the process on how they work, that simply wasnt their job and had nothing to do with it.

Jose and LVG must be having a right chuckle at these comments this morning.

I think this is Ed starting the process of throwing Ole under the bus and rinse repeat.
 
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The Manager whoever he is still needs a squad, and if he feels certain players are worth keeping around in case of injuries it makes sense to, as long as they are not disruptive what's the harm, it's not as though we've got half a dozen players like Winston Bogarde sat around counting their pennies making no effort to get into the team.
And yet you're proving my point. Instead of renewing Phil Jones' contract, we could have Harry Macguire for few seasons ago if invested smartly. This is the same Ed that overpaid players when he could get them sooner & cheaper.

Like I said opportunity cost is still a cost. It's the harm you're asking for.
 

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Brilliant people? £850m spent on transfers in six years and the largest annual wage bill in the Premier League and what do we have to show for it? United have been a disaster on the field under Woodward's stewardship and he bears ultimate responsibility for all of it. "Brilliant people" indeed.