Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

[Lynty]

I've been fully on board up until this point. But with an almost fully fit squad and high spirits, there's not many excuses left. We should be looking dangerous against Bournemouth - regardless of result.

I think the whole coaching team needs a seriously looking at - not just Ole. With few alternatives available, the sensible decision would be to give him this season and prepare a whole new coaching team to come in next May. Allegri is not the answer at all.

 

[mitchmouse]

Please just go, its killing my joy for the club.

We're at LvG levels, forget if a player or two will improve us it doesn't matter, what matters is the manager isn't good enough.

Start the project with someone else, someone with experience or demonstrable promise.

worse than that... it's doing what I predicted from the moment Ole got the job: it's killing our love for Ole

 

[Judas]

We continue to look terrible in the games we should win. It'll be the same next weekend against Brighton.

 

[Andycoleno9]

I’ve given up saying anything on Ole, sick of repeating myself. Those in support of him at this stage are not worth the time.

I said that many times but after every game i am so pissed and i can't resist to write something. But yeah, no point anymore

 

[mitchmouse]

I've been fully on board up until this point. But with an almost fully fit squad and high spirits, there's not many excuses left. We should be looking dangerous against Bournemouth - regardless of result.

I think the whole coaching team needs a seriously looking at - not just Ole. With few alternatives available, the sensible decision would be to give him this season and prepare a whole new coaching team to come in next May. Allegri is not the answer at all.

why is allegri not the answer?

 

[Jeppers7]

What worried me was his pre match comment "hopefully we score the first goal"

Why? Because you don't have a clue how to set up a team that isn't counter attacking ?

 

[Fooza]

Needs to go, I can't believe he has let this team get to this stage. I don't want to see Lingard, Fred, Pereira anywhere near this team, so frustrating.

 

[Deglobalise Football]

I disagree with most people on here. I thought it was a thoroughly enjoyable game with much suspense.

 

[PlayerOne]

The recent good results made many of us too giddy prematurely. We need to look at things on a large scale, several weeks to see if there is a serious changing trend at the club. Ole didn't become a good manager in 10 days

That's why I thought it was silly to go over the top over those results. We have been excellent against big teams since LVG. The players just raise their game to over up for any poor tactics.

 

[Greck]

Sigh, what new is there to say about his managerial 'talents'? Even worse all of this has been glaring for like 6 months now but we have to brace ourselves because we know this charade will carry on a while longer thanks to romanticism

 

[Random Task]

I don't want him sacked as he is the first manager since fergie to show interest in the long term .

However there is no denying the here and now has been horrific

Agree with you here.

I'd rather see him leave of his own free will than get sacked, though. I wonder if he is considering it.

 

[Xaviboy]

You can do all the running in the world and praise effort of players in games but doesn't take away from the fact that we are shite at breaking teams down. Clueless and we havnt got players to do it, it's ok we ran hard in the bad weather, ole will be happy.

 

[sdb4884]

Nothing will happen apart from the usual turn of events, Ole won't get sacked, we will probably win or draw our next home fixture without playing any good football and he'll survive the international break and then we'll lose again away and the process will repeat itself without the international break.

 

[led_scholes]

We've been shit for six years. We can keep sacking manager after manager until we're the new Liverpool of 1992-20XX, but it's abundantly clear that there's much more wrong than that. It's entirely possible that Ole isn't up to the task, but it's also far from obvious that he isn't. Since Fergie, nobody has done well. Anyone who heaps all the blame onto the manager is playing a part in what's bringing this club down, because it's well-known that clubs respond to fan feedback, and all the fan feedback for six years now has just been "sack the manager again." Anyone who thinks this shit is just the result of improper management is deluded.

There is a difference between not having done well, like with LVG ending the campaign 4th and 5th or with Jose 6th (but winning the EL) and 2nd, with being 15, possibly 18 points, behind Liverpool just after 11 games..

 

[pascell]

Just isnt good enough, when the opposition change formation to counter our starting tactics, Ole doesn't have one to swing it back into our favour. 4-2-3-1 just isn't going to work for us, neither will playing and hoping the likes of Lingard and Periera will pull the strings in the no.10 position.

 

[NK86]

Not good enough.

You have got a kid who had been very good playing at left-back what you do. You start Young.

That made no sense. For all his talk about giving youth chance and also saying how Williams is ready, he reverts to fkng Young (as captain of United - depressing even typing that), who has been gash for years now. Cannot believe some will still defend this though.

 

[reddevil702]

I don't want him sacked as he is the first manager since fergie to show interest in the long term .

However there is no denying the here and now has been horrific

He has no long term plan. It’s just a fecking excuse for the shit we’re seeing now.

 

[Foxbatt]

People talk about him getting rid of the deadwood. That deadwood is better than what he kept and that deadwood won have won us more games than the number of games we have won.

Honestly some Manchester United fans are getting delusion like WestHam and Newcastle. It breaks my heart to say so but that is the reality. Some of us think that we have a divine right to win and that we have to play a certain way only. The only Manchester United way is the winning way. How we win is of secondary importance.
Yes players like Fellaini etc may not be pleasing on the eye but certainly he would have won us more matches than this lot he kept. So getting rid of players without replacing them and thinking the kids can do it is delusional too.

Now Woodward needs to do the right thing and get rid of Ole before we get dragged into a relegation fight.

 

[JustAGuest]

Maybe our worst performance this season.

 

[NK86]

Yes, with the changes he made we put them under a lot of pressure. Did you not see the last part of the game?!

How many attempts on target did we muster during this period that you are referring to? We kept playing in front of their defense with no idea how to break it down except for hopeful crosses in.

 

[Stadjer]

martial is not a goal scorer - lukaku might not be excellent but look at his scoring record

Martial is a good enough as a centre forward. He offers more than just goals. He started the season well with goals, getting penalties and good hold up. He would be even better with a good midfield behind him.

 

[redzombie]

he's not learning from his mistakes, we're the easiest team in the league to play against.

 

[ash_86]

Players looked drained today without quality for rotation. Should have atleast had one point. We threw at them everything in the last but it wouldn't be today. Onwards and upwards

 

[Dr. StrangeHate]

Ole still to be the manager as we have a ‘long term plan’

I feel bad for the clubs who dont have a long term plan and are just after short term trebles and CLs.

 

[Paxi]

I’m convinced that he’s the worst ‘manager’ in first 3 tears of English football. He’s absolutely fecking SHITE!

 

[Bastian]

Agree with you here.

I'd rather see him leave of his own free will than get sacked, though. I wonder if he is considering it.

Why would he forgo millions in payout? It's not like he'll walk into another job at any top club in the world. He'd do well to cushion the blow by getting his millions first.

 

[Un4givableB]

I've been fully on board up until this point. But with an almost fully fit squad and high spirits, there's not many excuses left. We should be looking dangerous against Bournemouth - regardless of result.

I think the whole coaching team needs a seriously looking at - not just Ole. With few alternatives available, the sensible decision would be to give him this season and prepare a whole new coaching team to come in next May. Allegri is not the answer at all.

Allegri may not be the answer but a good manager is the starting point, OGS is not a good manager.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

I’m convinced that he’s the worst ‘manager’ in first 3 tears of English football. He’s absolutely fecking SHITE!

he’s making me cry too brother.

 

[izec]

The absolute state of this post two weeks later, 3 away wins on the spin, two very very good performances, will be the semi final of a cup and beat Bournemouth on Saturday potentially up to 5th in the league.

Tuanzebe, Williams, Garner, Greenwood all being given debuts/runs in the side, hopefully Gomes to come as well. McTominay improving no end under Ole, Rashford now has 7 in 11 with 4 assists, players coming back now.

Not to mention his signings, James, Maguire, AWB looking like superb long term United players, slowly binning off all the shite and clowns who should not be anywhere near the club.

Yet because we are not top within his first 6/12 months its the "worst it has been for a long long time".

Clueless

Yeah, our manager

 

[Leftback99]

Players looked drained today without quality for rotation. Should have atleast had one point. We threw at them everything in the last but it wouldn't be today. Onwards and upwards

It was a bad decision to go near full strength midweek. I though it might cost us today and it did.

 

[Judas]

Martial is a good enough as a centre forward. He offers more than just goals. He started the season well with goals, getting penalties and good hold up. He would be even better with a good midfield behind him.

His hold up play and general contribution beyond goals is massively overrated on here. Today was a prime example.

 

[AneRu]

Disappointed but with the tools he's got it's difficult to see how he can change things, really. I mean Fred, McT and Pereira were awful with the ball and after they scored and decided to sit deep James became ineffectual as the match went on. When your option for Pereira off the bench is Lingard it says it all really. We need to bring in another attacker in January or at least an AM.

 

[Mainoldo]

Lost more than he’s won. What more is there to say.

All those who keep backing him. Good luck. Getting excited over 2 lucky wins. It’s a joke.

Wh’Ole at the wheel.

 

[NK86]

Good substitutions ? Seriously ? Again, he took to long to introduced Williams and Greenwood. 10mins to do what exactly ?

That's exactly what I expected. He generally brings on the kids on the 80 mins mark mark to salvage his sinking career. Can you imagine any top manager doing that every week? Either give the kids time to shine or bring them on in a game where we are cruising. Giving them 10 mins to save a game every week just smacks of desperation, poor planning and basically being a shite manager way out of his depth.

In any other field, he would have been sacked by now with his performances.

 

[pseudo_canadian]

Has to go.

 

[Hawks2008]

United DNA lads, pashun and cultcha!!!

 

[RedDevilRoshi]

The job is just way too big for him.

 

[Jambalaya]

Another seasson down to drain. Just sack him ffs.

 

[Paxi]

he’s making me cry too brother.

Horrible stuff. I mean I fecking loved Ole as a player and I had tear in my eye when he retired but this is just pointless. We’re literally pulling teeth here. Just make it stop.

 

[Bojan11]

The United way or something like that. He’s clueless on when we have the ball.