Jose Mourinho | Spurs manager

At every club he's been at since 2002, Mourinho has won trophies. Will he win one at Spurs?


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LilyWhiteSpur

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The quote I left out a question mark so, as I was looking for you're opinion on a guy who stated he'd never manage you're team out of love for chelsea and now here we are :confused: what did he only take the job at you're club because no one else wanted him, not BM. not RM in other words the real reason he's changed his mind and is now spurs manager :D
And what do you want me to say to that? I couldn't give a shit what he said, you think he's shit fair enough, I appreciate your input.
 

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Unless they go an amazing run in the league to give them a shot at top 4 he will start to prioritise CL games in the knockout stages. It would be a long shot, an even bigger surprise than Porto in 2004, but their only chance of making CL for next season. I could see him winning a domestic cup and maybe even a EL at some stage but it’s really hard to see him deviating from the inevitable script of 3rd season meltdown. I think he said on Sky recently that it must be great to have a job where there is no pressure to win trophies. But he also said his next job must be somewhere with ambition and where he could realistically compete. Unless Levy is about to change Spurs financial model Jose will have to pull up trees to really compete at Spurs.
 

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I think he'll win some domestic silverwear with Spurs but he'll have a similar kind of tenure he had at United. Not sure Spurs will be better off when he leaves the club, or if he'll get top four, but at this point maybe winning SOMETHING is more important to the club, squad and fans.

I actually think it's quite a tricky job for anyone right now. There's clearly toxic issues with a host of first team players and massive question marks about their futures. Don't think Jose will keep quiet about that either which may cause issues especially if you keep having blurbs from the likes of Rose and Erikson about wanting away.

Interesting.
 

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Any chance any of Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Eriksen or Rose renew now Jose's there?

The CBs and Eriksen are right up his ally usually.
 

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That's the kinda of move that'd leave me bitter if I were poch.

All this talk about longterm project, doing things the right way, not overpaying, etc and then Levy goes and hires his diametrical opposite to all this and pays him double what he got.

He's been naive and allowed Levy to pull his pants down time and again. You'd have to think he goes in less idealistic into the next job.
 

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Any chance any of Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Eriksen or Rose renew now Jose's there?

The CBs and Eriksen are right up his ally usually.
I can't see it. I feel the issue is with Levy. Potentially if he pays them more and they buy into what Mourinho has to offer but I think some early clashes are likely with those who won't commit.

If Levy pays more it will have a knock on effect on what they can do in the market and possibly what's agreed in principle with Mourinho. It's a delicate situation though that's for sure.
 

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This will be another bridge he will burn, he is running out of top clubs to manage. He probably thought he was on his way back to Real. Bayern won't touch him. Only PSG left after this.
I do think this is a better match, though. Top players who haven't won nothing big and in urge to prove themselves and a club that is always an underdog are a bit the ingredients he usually likes. Let's see if he doesn't cock it up again.

I do think there's still a good manager on him, but he clearly needs to adapt, hire a couple of young coaches for his staff to refresh his training and playing ideas.
 

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A bit surprised at this. I knew his wife and family liked living in London but thought the Arsenal job was a more likely destination.

I joined this forum when he joined Utd to see how the fans took to him. It appears Utd fans are now in the same position I was in at that time and while I enjoyed the banter, deep inside I thought he would fail because of his Latin temperament and boring tactics. He did OK at Utd but his usual toxic end became inevitable. I can't help but feel he will do better at Spurs than he did at Utd. I didn't think he settled on a personal level at Utd. He didn't move his family there and spent a lot of time away from them. He won't have this problem at Spurs and will have more support from family. I think Jose also likes London.

I said this when he joined Utd and I'll say it again, if he can learn from his mistakes and reinvent himself as an attacking manager and becomes less controversial he will have big success.

The chances of this happening are now less than when he joined Utd but he might get them a bit of silverware. Whatever happens it makes the PL more exciting but I have to say I'm getting a bit bored with the toxic stuff.
 

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He's quite slowly becoming the Big Sam of top clubs, isn't he?
Strange thing is, floating around doing interims at the big clubs would probably suit him best right now in terms of club football.

I think international football is where he should and will eventually go, purely because while modern day players won't really embrace his siege mentality on a day to day basis they very much will for a month long shot at a World Cup.
 

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Might be switching their focus after not getting CHO or maybe Poch is going there?
I think he's a striker, he's been smashing it at youth level with goals.

The only issue for him is bar anything serious happening to Kane there is no direct path for him to compete in the next 5 years. Especially since Mourinho is in charge.
 

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That's the kinda of move that'd leave me bitter if I were poch.

All this talk about longterm project, doing things the right way, not overpaying, etc and then Levy goes and hires his diametrical opposite to all this and pays him double what he got.

He's been naive and allowed Levy to pull his pants down time and again. You'd have to think he goes in less idealistic into the next job.
Well if we offered him what he required, what’s to say he wouldn’t snap at it?
 

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Oh well. New manager bounce just in time for Utd v Spurs, just when I was feeling comfortable about beating them
 

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That's the kinda of move that'd leave me bitter if I were poch.

All this talk about longterm project, doing things the right way, not overpaying, etc and then Levy goes and hires his diametrical opposite to all this and pays him double what he got.

He's been naive and allowed Levy to pull his pants down time and again. You'd have to think he goes in less idealistic into the next job.
Crazy isn't it? Essentially they have paid out Poch the highest ever amount given to a departing manager (reports say £20+ million) and then signed Jose until 2022 on £15m per year (£45m contract). That's £65m to get this done despite the new stadium and penny pinching by Levy and a whole host of first team players running down and refusing to sign new contracts.

I worry if they have to replace Rose, Alderweireld, Vertonghen and Erikson. It's arguably £200m of talent before you even start.
 

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And what do you want me to say to that? I couldn't give a shit what he said, you think he's shit fair enough, I appreciate your input.
what I asked for and you gave it here , an opinion as you lot (maybe not you) but you're fan base spend yrs reminding us while he was here, all we got was a cheque book manager and a park the bus specialist and now you have that with a chairman not knowing for flashing the cash
 

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HAHA this is hilarious!!! Won’t end pretty. Need to buy me some popcorn. Does spurs fans have a forum similar to the caf?
 

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I do think this is a better match, though. Top players who haven't won nothing big and in urge to prove themselves and a club that is always an underdog are a bit the ingredients he usually likes. Let's see if he doesn't cock it up again.

I do think there's still a good manager on him, but he clearly needs to adapt, hire a couple of young coaches for his staff to refresh his training and playing ideas.
Think the players might suit him better. As @Inigo Montoya said in another thread, Kane and Son could suit his counter attacking style down to the ground. Toby and Jan a big defenders that he will like. They can also be dirty and he will like that as well. Our lot could be a bit too nice for Jose.
 

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These clubs deserve it tbh.

He's all charisma and smiles at first, but it won't last for long.
 

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Strange thing is, floating around doing interims at the big clubs would probably suit him best right now in terms of club football.

I think international football is where he should and will eventually go, purely because while modern day players won't really embrace his siege mentality on a day to day basis they very much will for a month long shot at a World Cup.
That siege mentality is a big problem now because players are much more professional and I dare to say educated that in his starting days, where it was a regular thing players behaving like naughty kids by going out at night, drinking, smoking, not to mention the lack of grass roots methods made the players look him as some guru with all the answers.

Nowadays things are very serious since grass roots, as we can see by the elevated level of football you'll find even in young age teams. It is rare to see an U17 team on a Euro / WC being painful to watch as it used to happen many years ago.

We may criticize this generation for lacking passion, but in professionalism terms they are much more "trained" than the generation he started his career with, either at tactical, physical and behaviour.
 

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I think he's a striker, he's been smashing it at youth level with goals.

The only issue for him is bar anything serious happening to Kane there is no direct path for him to compete in the next 5 years. Especially since Mourinho is in charge.
Exactly. If Kane was injured they just move Son into his place. He might be better looking elsewhere, with Poch he may have got his chance eventually, can't see it with Jose.
 

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This will be another bridge he will burn, he is running out of top clubs to manage. He probably thought he was on his way back to Real. Bayern won't touch him. Only PSG left after this.
Maybe the fact that the big clubs wouldn't go near him after us will temper him and he will change his ways? Long shot I know but penny has to drop at some time...
 

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I'd love to hear how I was name calling? I used a legitimate statement to describe how some people would rather ignore facts to continue on with their agenda; ie. Bashing the club and ignoring Mourinhos short comings here.
I didn't mean you particulary but general mood. Fanboys, lovers, apologists, you name it.
 

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Madness. I did not read anything about Pochettino's exit yesterday and 24 hours later he is gone and Mourinho suddenly in charge. A dangerous day for older Spurs fans with a weak heart.

I am not sure if this a good idea but I am pretty sure that they will definitely get top 4 next season. Maybe even this. With awful football that is but Mourinho will always be pragmatic and result driven above anything else.
Maybe him and Levy are able to form an unstoppable pair.
 

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Fair play, two horrendous decisions by Spurs over a 24 hour period. Sacking the best manager they've ever had (granted, they've been on a really bad run, but still) and then hiring Jose. A man who's going to want a huge turnaround in personnel, which will require a substantial outlay of cash that Levy just isn't willing to part with.

I just can't see it. I think it's a bad appointment by Spurs. The thing that stood out with Spurs when they were good under Poch was that everyone seemed to be together. Jose had that back in the day, but as we've seen recently that doesn't seem to be the case. It's going to be Jose first, then Spurs second. Weird one.
 

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I'm shocked Spurs have gone for Mourinho. He left his two last jobs with both clubs in disarray with low morale. His signings at OT were generally poor. Levy keeps a close eye on the purse strings. Interesting times ahead at Tottenham.
 

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We didn't even get that! He was miserable from day one.
I think being able to be based solely in London will suit him and improve his mood. Some may say it was a minor issue in his ultimate failure at United but I think him commuting between the two cities and being cooped up like Miss Havisham when he was in the north fecked with him.
 

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That siege mentality is a big problem now because players are much more professional and I dare to say educated that in his starting days, where it was a regular thing players behaving like naughty kids by going out at night, drinking, smoking, not to mention the lack of grass roots methods made the players look him as some guru with all the answers.

Nowadays things are very serious since grass roots, as we can see by the elevated level of football you'll find even in young age teams. It is rare to see an U17 team on a Euro / WC being painful to watch as it used to happen many years ago.

We may criticize this generation for lacking passion, but in professionalism terms they are much more "trained" than the generation he started his career with, either at tactical, physical and behaviour.
That's a very good point actually I didn't think of it in that angle.

I do however feel a lot of that may go out the window in a world cup semi and final in ways it wouldn't in club football purely because unlike the trophy's at club level, you don't dive straight in for another shot if you fail. There's another four years until another chance to win the trophy comes about and you may not get selected the next time round.