Problem is that with Bayern in race, every day is important. The way how they do their business is brutal. They do it in silence and in a few days. If they want him i am sure that they will go and sign him in next few days.
That's just not true. Plenty of so called promising managers have come to the PL and failed miserably. Poch is a manager that's proven himself to consistently deliver CL football.
Won what? The League Cup?
Don’t get the York and Cole = Martial and Rashford
Reallyyyyyyy???
On the first point, this is definitely not my experience. Our stadium was a very tense place to be when things started to go bad with Jose & LVG (I didn't get to OT the Moyes season at all). Lots of boos and lot of negative chanting that would have affected the team. You could hear the boos and the 'attack, attack, attack' clearly on TV and it could be deafening at the stadium, but what you wouldn't have gotten on the TV is the general atmosphere and the abuse that was thrown at the players and the manager. It was quite toxic on many occasions that I was there.
Ignoring Solsjkaer for a moment, why would united want to look for a manager with experience working under a tight budget?
Thanks for info. Fir me it is always nice to hear things from match going fan.
Literally no one does. You guys should try to argue against something other than strawmen for once.
It usually is. As in - everywhere, it's not a United/Woodward thing. If anything, the "we're 100% behind the manager" line indicates that he's in deep shit.
Better manager? That's highly subjective because there is no assessment exam for football managers so unless they manage the same club and the same squad, it's hardly even worth debating. He had a long term contract with no pressure to win things and abundant influx of talent, and crumbled the moment there were expectations.
Is anybody saying that though? I haven't seen any posts where anybody has said that.
Now let's see him start by winning two PL games in a row this season, starting with Sheffield United on Sunday. Continuing with our current league form while Bayern are given a free shot at Poch would be absolute lunacy. Now is Ole' chance, Woodward won't wait much longer.
Why would we ignore Solsjkaer? he's our current manager, ignoring him when making a point like this is pretty useless.
touche! If we are gonna replace OGS (and we absolutely shouldnt at this Point) - that manager should:How can a failed manager be hired to replace another manager who hasn't failed yet?
What is this all about? Since when has lowering the standards, making all sorts of excuses for the results & performances right now, ever lead to building a strong foundation and competing at the top?
First of all that is impossible to say until OGS has had a few years to prove himself. But of course OGS has a lot less to show yet.
Well that would still be more than Poch has won
Why would anyone compare Solskjaer to Pochettino in the first place?
At this point as in today or tomorrow or at the end of the season?
You have to be realistic about where the club actually is in terms of foundations and structure. You can't just insist on "standards" as if United were a club any manager post Fergie should have challenging for the biggest prizes per default.
What if the assumed long term strategy is based on a completely wrong approach? Then it does not matter how good the manager or coaches are.
I always felt Ancelotti would have been the right appointment post SAF, likeable, affable, huge experience, professional, attractive football, and his experience of other massive clubs would allow him to provide info to help the club modernise. Two seasons, long term succession put in place in the meantime with a modern structure to help the true long term successor to succeed, two years for anyone who wanted it to prove they could do it at their club.
How come other massive clubs around Europe don’t need this long term strategy to at least finish top four in their respective leagues? I agree we didn’t prepare for SAF’s departure but this romanticism rubbish needs to stop. You either come into a club like United and start getting results quickly at least a moderate standard at the beginning, as in top four form, or the fans and board are going to be on your back. It’s not rocket science. Where we are right now is unacceptable, there’s no two ways about it.
Absolutely correct. Top post.
I would imagine that's because you are biased toward Solskjaer and thus unable to see the reality that Pochettino is objectively proven a far better manager than Ole Solskjaer.
Agree completely - and even if this was some mammoth rebuild that takes multiple seasons, why on Earth would you employ a clueless lower league manager to oversee it...?
Yet Spurs are 14th, 11 points behind top 4, have sacked Pochettino and installed Mourinho, fully expecting top 4 at the end of the season. He even has come out today, said he expects no incomings in January, but has insisted that Spurs can win the title next season.
Then we're obviously fecked.
Not challenging by default. But the size of the club means we should expect to be at the front of innovation in the game. Why have we still not modernised the club structure to sustain managerial changes? Managers only last a few years now, so are we going to continue changing strategy like we have been doing in the past?
I see it the exact same way too. Is Solskjaer an elite manager? If you do not believe he is, then why wouldn't you move heaven and earth to bring in the very best available?
If I was a sociology student or academic I would be all over it. You could link it to the bigger picture too of worldwide politics and delivering horrible news/information with a friendly face/mask.
I don't like the term Ole **** but posts like this is why that term exists. Pochettino is a far better manager than Ole, it shouldn't be hard to admit that even if you want Ole to stay.
Nope but because most if not every non-united fan would never mutter that Ole is a better manager than Pochettino let alone defend it. There is objective thinking and there is outright delusion. Okay let's put it this way : watch out for Pochettino's next club and how many top caliber teams will want him to be their manager and then watch out for Ole's too when the inevitable sack happens.
