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Corbyn as hebrews tea, anti-semitism confirmed
This is what I meanIf I'm understanding correctly, if someone believes Corbyn to be antisemitic then almost anything he says, or doesn't say, including how he speaks can be interpreted as being antisemitic?
Sounds like confirmation bias.
The idea that it could be antisemitic is not far fetched, it just depends on how you view the speaker.The idea is that Corbyn used the Jewish pronunciation instead of the common Anglicised pronunciation to highlight his Jewishness and let him belong to the Jews because he's a notorious sex offender. That it was subtle code and a dog whistle to antisemites.
Im no fan of corbyn as anybody who reads this forum knowsThe idea that it could be antisemitic is not far fetched, it just depends on how you view the speaker.
I'm not seeing it personally, but i'm not Jewish so it's not my place to say.This is what I mean
The idea that it could be antisemitic is not far fetched, it just depends on how you view the speaker.
Im no fan of corbyn as anybody who reads this forum knows
I think he has allowed the cancer of antisemitsm to grow in labour and i believe the EHRC report will confirm this
That said I view him as an incompetent fekwhit and I think any subtle coding is beyond him... but thats just my personal opinion and can see how others can see it different
As I said before I'd give him the benefit of any doubt because I don't think he's sly or insidious. It wouldn't surprise me if he practised the proper pronunciation not to be offensive.I'm not seeing it personally, but i'm not Jewish so it's not my place to say.
Prince Andrew.I didn’t see the debate - why did Epstein come into the discussion at all?
It's clear she doesn't do her research before posting, most likely spoon fed stuff and just posts it without thinking.Rachel Riley now digging herself into a hole about Mandela not wanting to meet Corbyn because his anti-apartheid activism was too extreme
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Rachel Riley now digging herself into a hole about Mandela not wanting to meet Corbyn because his anti-apartheid activism was too extreme
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This is where she got her information from, it's an interesting read and there's a few good replies in the comments challenging some of the details.It's clear she doesn't do her research before posting, most likely spoon fed stuff and just posts it without thinking.
Was tempted to just put a "You ok hun?" on her timeline but tbh I think she's just best ignored. Nothing will penetrate her echo chamber.Rachel Riley now digging herself into a hole about Mandela not wanting to meet Corbyn because his anti-apartheid activism was too extreme
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Carrying Jimmy Carr's baby does things to you form the inside...Not a follower of twitter I had no idea Rachel Riley was like this... bit of a surprise.
I don't even know who she is. It's a constant theme of the caf, people driving themselves in to a frenzy on twitter over feck all.Why is anyone interested in what Rachael Riley says?
She's nice to look at and a long term darling of the Cafe, but beyond that, who cares what she thinks?
She’s the millennial Carol VordermanI don't even know who she is. It's a constant theme of the caf, people driving themselves in to a frenzy on twitter over feck all.
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I know Carol Vorderman! Never been bothered to look up exactly what a millenial is as I've never heard it used in a sentence that wasn't bollocks.She’s the millennial Carol Vorderman
I'd argue that you need more than 3 syllables to create a tune but hey I'm no Mozart.Tweet
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That is absolute fcuking horseshit.The idea is that Corbyn used the Jewish pronunciation instead of the common Anglicised pronunciation to other him and let him belong to the Jews because he's a notorious sex offender. That it was subtle code and a dog whistle to antisemites.
they tried the same with bernie too: "not me, us" to the tune of "lock her up" said the journalist's now-deleted tweet.I'd argue that you need more than 3 syllables to create a tune but hey I'm no Mozart.
That is completely unrelated to their point. It's better explained hereThat is absolute fcuking horseshit.
I speak English and French. In France my French is accepted as being shite, but passable. In England, if I pronounce Avignon, Provence or Cote D’Azur accented my friends, family or colleagues will rip the p1ss out of me. There’s no intent or message but it will sound different.
People are fcuking idiots.
I’m no fan of Corbyn but I’m intelligent enough to see that a slip in pronunciation is not indicative of anything.
Corbyn is not anti Semitic. He may hold views on Israel or Palestine that you disagree with. But his stance always seems to be grounded in humanity. He is not anti Jew. He’s not racist. His position is political.
He stood on stage, articulated his message clearly and exactly. If you choose to take a pronunciation over actual words then there’s no helping you.
You can also add the perception that Epstein is your archetypal member of the 'shadowy elite' so some Jewish people probably feel quite sensitive about him being weaponised against them in the Jewish conspiracy narrative. If you believe that Corbyn is an antisemite, as any Jewish people do, it's not difficult to understand their point of view.The idea is that Corbyn used the Jewish pronunciation instead of the common Anglicised pronunciation to highlight his Jewishness and let him belong to the Jews because he's a notorious sex offender. That it was subtle code and a dog whistle to antisemites.
She's got thousands of followers, don't expect not to be get called up on your bullshit when you have that many followers.Whilst it was ill-advised and rather fecking stupid to do what she did, given her job on the tele, does it really matter to you all what she thinks? Is her opinion that important? The way the "internet" has reacted is laughable.
Bravo, absolutely spot on.You can also add the perception that Epstein is your archetypal member of the 'shadowy elite' so some Jewish people probably feel quite sensitive about him being weaponised against them in the Jewish conspiracy narrative. If you believe that Corbyn is an antisemite, as any Jewish people do, it's not difficult to understand their point of view.
Amazing.they tried the same with bernie too: "not me, us" to the tune of "lock her up" said the journalist's now-deleted tweet.
Oh heaven forbid anybody that dares criticise the holy one blessed be he, Jeremy Corbyn or slander his extremely noble reputation as a staunch humanist and anti-racist campaigner...She's got thousands of followers, don't expect not to be get called up on your bullshit when you have that many followers.
Maybe because she erased an anti-apartheid message in order to spout her nonsense?Whilst it was ill-advised and rather fecking stupid to do what she did, given her job on the tele, does it really matter to you all what she thinks? Is her opinion that important? The way the "internet" has reacted is laughable.
I'm not sure you know how Twitter works.Why follow her if she's got form for coming out with utter bollocks?
I'm not sure you know how sarcasm works.I'm not sure you know how Twitter works.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/20/david-baddiel-hits-back
"Perhaps", "made up". The guy's a completely oblivious, (unfunny) twat.
That's clearly not what this is about, if you haven't figured it out give your head a wobble.Oh heaven forbid anybody that dares criticise the holy one blessed be he, Jeremy Corbyn or slander his extremely noble reputation as a staunch humanist and anti-racist campaigner...
Why follow her if she's got form for coming out with utter bollocks?
Well please enlighten me as to what this actually IS about then? Because I appear to have completely missed the point according to you.That's clearly not what this is about, if you haven't figured it out give your head a wobble.
Someone has already explained it to you.Well please enlighten me as to what this actually IS about then? Because I appear to have completely missed the point according to you.
This is reductionism, there are hundreds, if not thousands of people who have voiced their anger/upset because the message was defaced and not to do with antisemitism but revisionism & erasure of black history.The imaged defaced was a Corbyn cultist image. The only reason anyone is upset is because it was switched to point out his own antisemitsm. I see nobody arguing in good faith that this was a racist act. All I see are people that wanted to abuse Riley, just most in this thread are doing.
Subtle bastard that he is.Corbyn as hebrews tea, anti-semitism confirmed
Tory conference chant was "Pri-va-tize". x3.I'd argue that you need more than 3 syllables to create a tune but hey I'm no Mozart.
It's really not laughable. How much do you know about the suffering caused by apartheid in South Africa?Whilst it was ill-advised and rather fecking stupid to do what she did, given her job on the tele, does it really matter to you all what she thinks? Is her opinion that important? The way the "internet" has reacted is laughable.