May I ask what point you're ultimately trying to make here by arguing with everyone that Watford is a tough team to beat and that we're 8th best team in the league?
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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- Ultimately, if United want to get rid of OGS, Woodward would have to admit he got it wrong. Hence willing to give OGS more time.
- Everyone in club completely faithful and committed to OGS's plan and vision.
Add to the fact Watford had only won once prior this season and hadn't won at home for 9 months. Boggling.
To be fair, if hiring a DOF means one of Fletcher, Phelan or Rio... count me out. What a shitshow of an appointment that would be, as if Ole as manager wasn't bad enough 
We need to stick by ole, I know that the Watford result was poor but we’re not going to be able to attract a better coach than him at present with our squad, we seriously need to sort out the positions above the manager first!
What a loud of crap.
You say that as if the Watford result's the only reason people want him out
What about the Sheffield United, Aston Villa, Southampton, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Wolves... results?
Woodward more worried about feeling vindicated than doing what is right for the progression of the club and getting rid of Ole, what a shocker.
I really think we'll amount to nothing as long as the Glazers own this club. SAF truly masked their incompetence.
Unless we somehow miraculously hire an incredible manager, but not counting on it.
That's what I expect to happen in the second half of the season. There's no way he will get the same points vs top 6 and he won't magically find an answer vs the rest any time soon. The worst is still to come.
You’d think he’d have played his cards in the bigs games now so to speak.
City, Spurs etc will just set up in a way that nullifies our counter attacking play surely?
Yes. Only City that won't abandon their style for us but they will solidify their midfield and control us better. It will be a long two 90 minutes in the upcoming semi final. We still have to go away to Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham,Leicester, Arsenal and there's simply not a chance they will all walk into the trap and let's us counter attack them again. Actually I was shocked that Mourinho didn't set up like his usual defensive way when we played him. Even Everton away with Ancelotti will be a likely L, their caretaker guy just came to our ground and took points off us. I thought we will finish 6th but in all likelihood 12th and lower is where we will finish.
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Dont think he's the right man and am personally not even worried he has what it takes to fool everyone to getting behind another season with him in charge. That would entail actually becoming a good coach overnight and picking up points. Each lethargic draw/loss is a new nail in the coffin and by April/may it will be undeniable barring a miraculous U-turn
Those performances seem to really sting fans and it's a near guarantee he will continue dropping them.
Those performances seem to really sting fans and it's a near guarantee he will continue dropping them.
Some good recent posts
I'm annoyed with OGS, because we are witnessing that corporate style approach to management, without character, definition or commitment. OGS has spoken about encouraging young players, but this is not unique, not at all. Plenty of teams encourage young players. He talks about a 'project' and needing time, but now he admits they are not even progressing.
I don't trust him, not at all... because he knows he is out-of-his-depth, and plays on his hero status. I don't think he is the sharpest or brightest manager.. He is a corporate voice, an average manager, shaping (a number of..) average players to consistently perform at an average level.
He's just like Gareth Southgate to me....
I'm annoyed with OGS, because we are witnessing that corporate style approach to management, without character, definition or commitment. OGS has spoken about encouraging young players, but this is not unique, not at all. Plenty of teams encourage young players. He talks about a 'project' and needing time, but now he admits they are not even progressing.
I don't trust him, not at all... because he knows he is out-of-his-depth, and plays on his hero status. I don't think he is the sharpest or brightest manager.. He is a corporate voice, an average manager, shaping (a number of..) average players to consistently perform at an average level.
He's just like Gareth Southgate to me....
So shitty Everton can attract Ancelotti, but the greatest football club in England can't attract a manager better than a novice manager from the Norwegian league.
We all know a thing or two about what it takes to become Manchester United.
Passion, Value, Virtue, Never Say Die, Pacey electric wings, no dirty laundry, youth bla bla bla. Every fans who's been in the pub to listen to folks would know what is United value.
The problem is, none of us knows how to get there, inc. Ole.
Anyone can tell us how they want us to play (442, wings, direct, etc), but how to make the team plays like that?
Anyone can tell us which attribute they want in a player (young, passion, love the club, etc), but who?
Anyone can tell us which formation we wants to play? But who among us really knows the details and what it takes for one formation to work?
Anyone can tell us about rebuilt, about long term, about short term pain? But do they really know for sure that there is light at the end of the tunnel? Or they just keep digging till the day they got fired and cry about not being given enough time?
Anyone can tell this is not the United we aspire to be, anyone knows we're a work in progress. But does Ole knows how and what needs to be done to become that other United?
Anyone can tell you that our tactics are impotent against lower-midtable teams. But does Ole knows any other tactics?
Knowing what the problem is, and knowing the solution to the problem is two different thing.
Erm... re-read his post and the post he quoted man.
Mis read the post. Deleted and apologies.
So in summary, the club is screwed in general because the only plan is to fill the club with former players and hope for the best. We sort of knew this I suppose. The Athletic seems quite good but this snippet here is nothing us fans haven't been chatting about since early in the summer window:
- no DOF
- Woodward reluctant to look a fool - will back Ole to the hilt.
- 'the United way'
- fill the club with old boys and give them jobs.
The recipe for disaster.
We must be really unattractive then if we wouldn’t be able to attract a better coach than Ole. Most managers from top 5 European leagues are better than him.
You're saying we cant attract a better manager than ole? Even everton is managed by carlo ancelotti
Even everton is managed by a proven cl winner
Yikes. So many parallels with how we are now since he was made permanent.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport...ws/ole-gunnar-solskjaers-cardiff-city-7786419
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport...ws/ole-gunnar-solskjaers-cardiff-city-7786419
Thetes certainly a question over the statement we’re the greatest club in England, it’s subjective and a lot of people would say Liverpool is. I’m sure we probably could attract better than ole but what decent manager would want to come here with our current squad? It’s unbalanced, old andof poor quality, is what I’m saying.So shitty Everton can attract Ancelotti, but the greatest football club in England can't attract a manager better than a novice manager from the Norwegian league.
Now, now, remember that Cardiff team was the worst team we've ever seen and completely doomed......until Ole was fired, then Warnock comes in and solidifies them before getting them promoted again to the PL. So not that doomed, eh.
Ah but remember we tend to have the worst parts of these timelines with none of the benefit. For example All jose's teams went on to win something major after sacking him. That good luck charm doesn't look to be favouring us so far
I know he can't exactly slate him, but it just irritates hearing OGS saying things like 'Pereira has done really well."
Come on now OGS and co. prove that I'm a fecking idiot and go on a 10 game winning streak!
fecking fraud.
Comical
Okay, he's spent 100+ million on the defence and Newcastle are cutting us open at will here....
At least he might be sacked now and it’s insane that I’m saying might. Any other manager would have been sacked months ago, utter pretender Ole and his coaching staff.
Tara Ole.
No but really.
No but really.
Fecking joke, biggest club in the world my a$$.
He s doing a great job managing expectations. Every time we think we re on the up - Bam. Straight back down to earth with us. Gotta appreciate that.
Give us all a late xmas present and sack this clueless moron.
Still sat looking clueless. He has no idea.
Still sat looking clueless. He has no idea.
could spend another 100m on the attack and it wouldnt change a bone. We are not coached, nowhere on the pitch. Just individuals playing for the first time it seems
I'm not a fan of Ole as manager either but no reason to resort to name calling.
We're boring, we're shit and I honestly will welcome a loss here, a loss tomorrow until hes sacked. Hes completely ruined football for me.
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