Donny Van De Beek

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We definitely need two midfielders. And VdB will be a class addition to our midfield. Ideally, I would like to see we go for VdB and Neves. Soumare would be a good addition too.

Mostly likely and hopefully Pogba, Lingard and Matic will leave in summer.
If we signed 2 during winter our midfield will comprise of
McT
Fred
VdB
Neves/Soumare
Mata
Pereira
Garner
Gomes

That is a good mix of midfielders to have.
If our budget allows we can add Madisson or Grealish in summer.
If Pogba goes, and I'm not sure he will, we need a similar style of talent to come in. That list looks a bit bland and minus anyone with real star quality.
 

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He is a good player and can play various roles centrally but he's not a elite player and most likely never will be. Personally I wouldn't pay more than £30m for him. But if we did sign him, he'd be a very strong squad player and would be a big upgrade on Lingard and Pereira in the #10/AM role.

Van der beek and Soumare would represent a excellent transfer window for us.
Sadly to say, if 30 million is his value, the club would have to pay and extra 30 million for Elite club premium and inflation.

He will come to us for 50-55 million. Pretty much like Fred.
 

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If this were about PR and had no basis in reality, we'd have leaked a more famous name like Grealish or Maddison.

It's either a fake story by journalists/agents or it's got a basis in reality. This rumour doesn't make sense as a leak.
 

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Sadly to say, if 30 million is his value, the club would have to pay and extra 30 million for Elite club premium and inflation.

He will come to us for 50-55 million. Pretty much like Fred.
I agree..
 

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If this were about PR and had no basis in reality, we'd have leaked a more famous name like Grealish or Maddison.

It's either a fake story by journalists/agents or it's got a basis in reality. This rumour doesn't make sense as a leak.
Exactly..
 

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We're short of midfielders so I'd take him certainly. Not at all convinced he's as good as the hype though.

Edit: actually I'm not sure. This lad could end up being another player who's not quite what we're looking for like fellaini, schneiderlin or blind. If we sign van de Been do we end up not signing Maddison because we've already filled the position?
 
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I've no idea on his ability, I just get premonitions of Davy Klaassen mk2.
 

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When a player is described as versatile as opposed to gifted, explosive, hugely talented etc I feel it doesn't bode well. Then again I know feck all about this specific player.
That was exactly how Herrera was described often
 

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That was exactly how Herrera was described often
I know. But as much as I liked Herrera, we needed great passers even when we had him. We need all the more now given Fred, Periera and Mctominay are our main CMs.
 

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If this were about PR and had no basis in reality, we'd have leaked a more famous name like Grealish or Maddison.

It's either a fake story by journalists/agents or it's got a basis in reality. This rumour doesn't make sense as a leak.
Feels like click-bait journalism. I don't remember us being linked with him before.
 

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He is a good player and can play various roles centrally but he's not a elite player and most likely never will be. Personally I wouldn't pay more than £30m for him. But if we did sign him, he'd be a very strong squad player and would be a big upgrade on Lingard and Pereira in the #10/AM role.

Van der beek and Soumare would represent a excellent transfer window for us.
I know this season he has been playing deeper but last season he played as a #10 for Ajax and I think this is where we plan to play him. He's not someone who's gonna set the world alight, I'd say he's an improved version of Perreira, definitely has better decision making than him and chips in with goals as well.

But we will still need a proper CDM like Neves or someone of that ilk to be able to really control the midfield and see the best our of Van de Beek.
Are you guys sure about that? Maybe it's the fact that he showed he can play well as a CM that made us take action.

I see him more as a Herrera type in a 3 man mid but with a much better attacking influence. The lack of attacking quality in the final third made me not miss Herrera to much as i think that is a very important aspect for that position. I could see a mid 3 of McTom/new guy, DVB and Pogba be similar in function to City's DM, Silva and KDB.
 

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I've no idea on his ability, I just get premonitions of Davy Klaassen mk2.
I'm on this. People need to start questioning why he's not regular starter in his national team like Wijnaldum & De Jong if he's that good.
 

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I'm on this. People need to start questioning why he's not regular starter in his national team like Wijnaldum & De Jong if he's that good.
For one thing one plays in the PL at Liverpool and the other at Barca. Players that play at a higher level tend to be favored in NT for obvious reasons. That doesn't mean that DVB can not get to the same level. He was a target for Real last summer and United now, so that says something about his quality and potential.
 

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Are you guys sure about that? Maybe it's the fact that he showed he can play well as a CM that made us take action.

I see him more as a Herrera type in a 3 man mid but with a much better attacking influence. The lack of attacking quality in the final third made me not miss Herrera to much as i think that is a very important aspect for that position. I could see a mid 3 of McTom/new guy, DVB and Pogba be similar in function to City's DM, Silva and KDB.
He can play in midfield too. Played quite abit further forward due to Frenkie de Jong and Schone playing well together. But from what i've seen he can play the #6 #8 and #10 to varying degrees.

If he did sign, then i'm hoping we change to a 4-3-3 with Pogba the AM, VdB the box to box #8 and Soumare as the DM if we sign him.
 

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For one thing one plays in the PL at Liverpool and the other at Barca. Players that play at a higher level tend to be favored in NT for obvious reasons. That doesn't mean that DVB can not get to the same level. He was a target for Real last summer and United now, so that says something about his quality and potential.
Not playing over those two is understandable but couldn't set himself to be regular starter over players like Propper & de Roon is questionable. Being targeted by clubs like Real Madrid & United means nothing, Real Madrid signed Gravesen, Drenthe & Faubert, were they even decent player? No. Bakayoko was being targeted by lot of big club, how is he?
 

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I've no idea on his ability, I just get premonitions of Davy Klaassen mk2.
That's what I've always felt about him. He has nice moments in games but can be completely invisible. I fear he'd get lost in the PL and end up on the dead wood pile before long. If you look at Klassen's best season for Ajax vs De Beek their stats are eerily similar, Klassen actually edges him pretty much across the board.
 

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That's what I've always felt about him. He has nice moments in games but can be completely invisible. I fear he'd get lost in the PL and end up on the dead wood pile before long. If you look at Klassen's best season for Ajax vs De Beek their stats are eerily similar, Klassen actually edges him pretty much across the board.
Well, we arent in a position where we can play it safe. If he is the only one we can get of a certain level and considering his CL experience, we just have to take the risk.

We are playing with Fred, Matic and Pereira in midfield, and Fred's legs gonna fall off soon. Imagine if he got injured, which is a real possibility now considering how many games he's played.
 

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Not playing over those two is understandable but couldn't set himself to be regular starter over players like Propper & de Roon is questionable. Being targeted by clubs like Real Madrid & United means nothing, Real Madrid signed Gravesen, Drenthe & Faubert, were they even decent player? No. Bakayoko was being targeted by lot of big club, how is he?
I see your point but i just don't think this can be held against him. After all players like Madison and Grealish barely get a look at at NT and we know they are of very high quality.
 

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Looking at his bio he was linked with Bayern and Barca as a teen, also linked with Madrid - so he has pedigree.

Always liked Blind and thought he was a clever player, so we have history of buying well from them in recent times.

Who knows, it's the old saying with the eredivisie, will you get a kezman or a van nistelrooy.
 

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Him and Bruno Fernandes would cost us north of £100m in this window. Not going to happen, not with this board.
For the 100th time, they arent interested in B.Fernandes, i dont understand why you lot keep mentioning him :)
 

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Well, we arent in a position where we can play it safe. If he is the only one we can get of a certain level and considering his CL experience, we just have to take the risk.

We are playing with Fred, Matic and Pereira in midfield, and Fred's legs gonna fall off soon. Imagine if he got injured, which is a real possibility now considering how many games he's played.
His 'level' is unknown, he'd be a massive gamble. I'd rather us go after Ziyech from Ajax. At least he does crazy numbers in the Erdivisie.

De Beek would be the definition of the panic buy, it appears he wasn't a target previously and we'd have to pay big big money for him because we're in a panic.

Aside from the Europa League this season looks a write off anyway. I'd rather us just stick to our guns and blood some youngsters. We'll have to go all out in the Europa and hopefully McT, Pogba and Maguire can be back by then.
 

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If we were city or Chelsea or Madrid or barce we would sign him for 50m and play him at 10 and if he doesn't work out we would sign someone else. City spent 60m on a right back and don't play him and nobody cares
 

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If we were city or Chelsea or Madrid or barce we would sign him for 50m and play him at 10 and if he doesn't work out we would sign someone else. City spent 60m on a right back and don't play him and nobody cares
Not sure if you aware we're in a slightly different financial position than City with their literal bottomless pit of cash.
 

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He'd do feck all for United. He benefits from the abundance of creativity in this Ajax side, in which his runs and goalscoring abilities thrive. On his own though, he's not going to force anything.

Davy Klaassen Mk2 is harsh, so I'd say maybe Davy Klaassen Mk3.
 

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We always this every window where it seems someone leaks that we are interested in signing a player, the fans get excited and start thinking how we will have him in the team and what role they will play.

It lasts the duration of the window, everyone excited about us signing him and it will turn out we were never in with a shout.

This is typical woody to get fans of his back.

No point listening to any of these until we have actually signed a player.
 

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De Beek would be the definition of the panic buy, it appears he wasn't a target previously and we'd have to pay big big money for him because we're in a panic.
Think Ole has made it abundantly clear we arent buying anyone that hasnt been a target of ours, he even said it again after the City match.

Ofcourse, because of injuries they are somewhat panicking and will probably overpay if we get him, but I'm pretty certain they wouldn't buy him if they didnt rate or scouted him before.

My guess is he was like the 4th or 5th choice after Maddison, Graelish and some others.
 

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He can play in midfield too. Played quite abit further forward due to Frenkie de Jong and Schone playing well together. But from what i've seen he can play the #6 #8 and #10 to varying degrees.

If he did sign, then i'm hoping we change to a 4-3-3 with Pogba the AM, VdB the box to box #8 and Soumare as the DM if we sign him.
Sounds like Ander Herrera before joining United, in terms of versatility, except he scores more. Personally only seen the semi final against spurs where he looked good and scored a decent goal with a very composed finish.