TBF I'm not sure a catchy chant can be made out of "Eddddd Woodward significant under-investment over a number of years and clear lack of an overall strategy has led us to this unsatisfactory position, we would like the club to be sold to patrons who are more willing to invest in the club on and off the pitch, and would like a director of football to be appointed please, preferably Van der Sar. In the meantime please sign at least two central midfielders in this transfer window as a show of good faith. Kind regards, the Stretford End."
Glazers / Woodward out! (One down)
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How many more players are we going to monitor ed?
Where's the investment Woodward?
Because we were performing on the pitch with one of the greatest managers papering over the cracks. This time it could well be different. Also, it's still shit publicity and media scrutiny they'd rather avoid at all costs.
What are the fans demanding?
That they sack Ole?
That they change the structure of the club, again?
That they throw a billion at the problem even though the new manager and club philosophy is to do no such thing?
What is it the Stretford End are demanding?
When did that happen?
When what?
I thought you were saying they've changed the structure of the club and are the fans asking for them to change it again?
To answer your general question my guess is the fans are just sick and tired of having these complete leeches in the Glazers and Woodward destroying the club. From top to bottom we're a mess and every year we fall further away from the elite.
Sick and tired I get, but what exactly is it they want?
And yes, when they fired Mourinho and employed Ole an entire new club ideology and transfer structure was put in place, no doubt on the recommendation of Sir Alex, Gill and the advisory board.
That's not a re structure of the club.
When Mourinho was sacked they came out and spoke about a Director of Football, and here we are 12 months later and still nothing. It's still the structure of relying on the useless Woodward to deal with transfers, something he's shown over and over he is shit at.
They want Woodward and the Glazers to leave, but as that is not going to happen any time soon it's the fans letting them know they aren't happy with the way the club is being ran. I'm not sure why you're struggling to understand this.
We're desperate for some quality, the squad is so poor right now. Spend some money on Old Trafford, it's basically been untouched for nearly 15 years and it's starting to look old and worn down.
I take it you're fine with the Glazers and Woodward?
Of course it is. Full transfer control removed from manager to prevent the "tear it up and start again" feck ups of LVG and Mourinho, transfer committee put into place, new scouting re-structure. Read more
I personally prefer this over a DoF as that is still just one guy, remove him or he gets it wrong and the whole thing falls to pieces. I like the transfer committee and the veto idea.
I think Woodward and the Glazers have done a dog shit job since SAF retired, but I think they, with the help of Gill, SAF and the advisory board have now finally started to get some things right.
But that's besides the point, I want to know what the lads in the Stretty want? If they are letting know they are unhappy with the way the club is ran as you say, then what should they do? Sack Ole, ignore the advice of the advisory board, rip up the transfer committee idea (which has lead to signings most seem happy with)?
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Spot on UG
!I've told you. I'm sure most Utd fans in an ideal world would want Woodward and the Glazers to feck off but let's be realistic.
Sort the squad out, its desperately thin and short of quality. Our lineup in the derby mid week was a disgrace. We need 1 or 2 centre midfielders and an attacking midfielder at least, spend some money on the stadium, stop offering new contracts to proven failures at the club like Jones and Young because it's the easier cheaper option. Woodward has shown himself to be useless time and time again. Offering Mourinho a brand new contract, then refusing to back him in the summer but also not sacking him is just one of countless examples.
Where's this talk of an advisory board come from by the way? Is this one of the countless Woodward leaks where he tries to make himself look better? Good luck to you if you believe any of that shite but I certainly don't.
If you acknowledge and understand why Utd fans are unhappy and angry what is it you suggest they should do instead of chanting abuse at Glazers and Woodward?
excellent post!feck them all. Robbing bastards.
Hopefully the chants and protests continue. Nobody can argue for Ed Woodwards or the Glazers side.
They've made poor decisions for too long now and still want to haggle for a creative midfielder when we're dying for a creative midfielder. They should be signing two never mind one.
Hopefully the chants and protests continue. Nobody can argue for Ed Woodwards or the Glazers side.
They've made poor decisions for too long now and still want to haggle for a creative midfielder when we're dying for a creative midfielder. They should be signing two never mind one.
We've always had it, SAF and Gill (and Sir Bobby) sit on it. Full list of directors can be found here
I mean, even if you somehow missed it's existence, you should've realised after Ole and Phelan were brought in like.
Unless you genuinely thought that Ed Woodward sat in Tampa with the Glazers talking about firing Mourinho and they all decided "I know who would be a great option to bring in now! That bloke from 99 who's been managing in Norwegian obscurity since getting fired from a Championship side".
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To the tune of what?
Bring on the Saudis. I want a brand new shiny stadium built at side of existing one similar to what Spurs did. There might just be room I think.
Also want to see us competitive in the PL n CL title chases most seasons which we should always be for size of club we are.
No more messing around. Pep has 1 more year and it sounds like he's gone. Klopp nearly done 4. He won't sick around forever either. We need to be ready to take back the reigns.
Also want to see us competitive in the PL n CL title chases most seasons which we should always be for size of club we are.
No more messing around. Pep has 1 more year and it sounds like he's gone. Klopp nearly done 4. He won't sick around forever either. We need to be ready to take back the reigns.
Good stuff. About time this started.
They brought in Ole to buy some themselves some time, he did really well so they went back on what they promised after sacking Mourinho and hired him before the end of the season. The same way they went back on their statement of looking for a DOF.We've always had it, SAF and Gill (and Sir Bobby) sit on it. Full list of directors can be found here
I mean, even if you somehow missed it's existence, you should've realised after Ole and Phelan were brought in like.
Unless you genuinely thought that Ed Woodward sat in Tampa with the Glazers talking about firing Mourinho and they all decided "I know who would be a great option to bring in now! That bloke from 99 who's been managing in Norwegian obscurity since getting fired from a Championship side".
Anyway, I've explained why the Utd fans are unhappy and what they want so you don't have to keep asking now
Dont be silly.
I'd you care about the long term future and success at the club you would not be silenced by beating bottom of the table fecking Norwich.
Anybody 15 years into this mess, that still defends or has any faith in the Glazers and Woodward is just utterly deluded.
I already know why myself and 99.9% of other United fans are unhappy, I was asking what they want?
A DoF? Well that goes against all of the work put into place with this 5 man transfer committee that I personally like and that many here seem to think have done a great job getting rid of "deadwood" and bringing in players that suit United more and want to play for the club.
Or is it just a general moan? Because as you say, a multi billion dollar club aint just getting sold.
They brought in Ole and Phelan on SAF's recommendation. They got giddy, probably SAF and Gill too just like 99% of our fanbase and hired him full time.
The DoF was already kicked to the curb to try out the transfer committee route.
Love that both the BBC and Sky picked up on this. Thank you Stretford End!
This.. long may it continue
Hire a DoF, reevaluate our recruiting strategy, have a plan and actually stick with it?
You cant hire a manager, buy couple of players , fire said manager then new manager comes in and he demands new set of players. Rinse & repeat. Because that's what wrong with our structure in the last 8 years.
No one seems to have clue which direction should United take. We're just gambling on managers and keep backtracking on our decision as time goes.
Lvg wanted possession based football, Mourinho wanted pragmatic football, Ole wants high pressing? Noone fecking sure if this is working. If it doesn't, will the next manager like these players or will we have to "rebuild" again.
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Best chants ever!
Hopefully it will intensify week by week to force glazer/ed make real change.
They can't keep getting away with serious mismanagement unparalleled in football history.
It's unthinkable to start the biggest rebuild season ever with:
1. Molde manager
2. lack of signings especially in midfield and attack
3. unknown youths and past it veterans
4. low net spent and unbalanced squad
Only Ed is capable of making so many basic errors year after year and still being the highest paid executive in football.
Hopefully it will intensify week by week to force glazer/ed make real change.
They can't keep getting away with serious mismanagement unparalleled in football history.
It's unthinkable to start the biggest rebuild season ever with:
1. Molde manager
2. lack of signings especially in midfield and attack
3. unknown youths and past it veterans
4. low net spent and unbalanced squad
Only Ed is capable of making so many basic errors year after year and still being the highest paid executive in football.
Good post Sir
Glazers gone because they are siphoning money away from the club, Woodward because he is not good at his job. Both his negotiating skills with new players and how he handles player contracts is baffling.
Why wait until the contract nearly expires before you start working on a new one? If its the case of a player that is desperate to play for the club, then you have the upper hand, but in most cases its the other way around and its the club who is desperate to keep a player and thus the player has the upper hand.
Also that ridiculous contract they he gave Sanchez was alone a sackable offense
They haven't done a good job setting rid of deadwood. Herrera went on a free. Fellaini went on the cheap and probably would have contributed more then Mata or Lingard this season. Smalling on loan, Sanchez on loan, Jones & Rojo still here and Young offered a one year extension. They've done a terrible job in my opinion.
The three signings have been top notch and they will definitely get better with a more balanced squad.
Fans of this club are entitled to a moan after the dumpster fire of the last 6 years. We've been a fecking disgrace and have rarely dominated 90 minutes, sometimes even when we win.
I agree with you about the changes though, you are spot on there. We've taken baby steps recently but then we are offering Young a one year deal. This is an indication that nothing will change.
I personally, in the short term I could deal with the shit squad, poor coaching and ownership but Woodward is the glue. Players can be bought and coached better. Coaches can be fired and hired. Glazers own the club so absolutely nothing a supporter can do about it. But Woodward is a different fecking story. If he was taken clean out of the football side we could improve over night. Transfer negotiations are a farce. Players contracts running down giving average players the upper hand. Players who shouldn't be anywhere near the club getting contract extensions. This is Woodward's United and it fecking reeks of mediocrity and is an embarrassment. Let people vent a bit, 99% of us are in agreement so that's a start.
But that’s EXACTLY what they have done since they gave Ole the job. No DoF but a committee of football instead, a transfer committee (of 5, which the manager is one vote and a veto).
Have you not noticed our recruitment strategy has completely changed?
Any Utd fan who actually wants that is bizarre to me, I'm all for upgrading OT and bringing it into this century, but the idea of a whole new ground is utterly awful and should be the bottom of everyones list.
Both would cost roughly the same, the club needs introducing to the 21st century so a new stadium makes sense to me.
Imagine United having a bigger and better stadium than Wembley, then it would host the 2030 World Cup Final
Sorry mate I prefer build a bonfire it's catchy
Said by someone who clearly never goes to games. I don't have my ST anymore but had it for over 20 years but still get to about 7/8 home games a season. It's falling apart. Absolutely not fit for purpose anymore. Building Old Trafford V2.0 at the side of the existing one would be fantastic for the club.
Spurs have done it. Don't see them complaining. City left their ground, Arsenal did same. Juventus have a new ground, Milan clubs getting a new one. The list goes on and on and on.
People often ask how protests would be any different to '05 & '10...social media! The fans never had this much power against the club last time, now they will.
And the great thing about the chants? It was whilst we were winning. It shows it wasn't reactionary to what was happening on the pitch but how the fans felt...well the true fans anyway!
And the great thing about the chants? It was whilst we were winning. It shows it wasn't reactionary to what was happening on the pitch but how the fans felt...well the true fans anyway!
It's been falling apart for years, even when they put the quads in it was looking tired. But I'd much rather refurbish than build a new soulless stadium. It's one of the few things I'm still sentimental about in football, keeping us at OT, it would just be a sad day when we finally leave.
Logically it makes far more sense to just build a new ground though, obviously.
Logically it makes far more sense to just build a new ground though, obviously.
At last! Let's hope every game this chanting goes on and on. Anyone defending how this club is run must be in the glazers pay. We have gone from THE club in this country to a laughing stock. What Fergie built, has been ruined slowly by the glazers and quickly by Woody. We will never get back that aura again. The only reason a wc player would join us now is if they were close to 30 and wanted one last big payday.
Agree with refurbishing what we have. I've mentioned before, Glazer's have bought up a lot of land/properties in and around the area of OT and it is one thing they're meant to be half decent at, real estate. Now that Lancashire have got their permission to extend a stand and build around the area, I'm sure we might start seeing some progress in ours.
We really need to bump up the match day experience, especially for families.
How is social media going to change anything? In 2005, we were far more organised than now but ultimately failed because not enough people were willing to sacrifice a little bit.
The 2010 protests were great and noisy but failed because there wasn't really a viable alternative to the Glazers ownership.
The current protests have started because the team isn't doing well on the pitch again. I travelled over to Paris in March and there was no sign of anti Glazer sentiment
And again, how are people going to get them to sell? Very few people have 3/4 billion to spend on a football club...