Saudi sports minister gives update on buying club from Glazers

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Yes this is infuriating. As if the media fallout and sudden emergence of the Glazers last few days had nothing to do with Old Trafford singing anti glazer songs and walking out on Wednesday
The walkout was nice but it's a couple of years late already.
 

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I have a more jaded view that the overwhelming majority won't care. My view coming from massive disappointment at seeing Trump elected despite the shadow of sexual misconduct, white supremacy and nationalism. Actually had many a friend that voted for him use the same excuse - the bad stuff is exaggerated, he'll be better once on this global stage, I had to choose my welfare first (promise of jobs).

Manchester United. Religion. Wife. Kids. Wifi. Amazon Prime...Human Rights. That Order.
Well thank feck we have selfless and virtuous people like you to tell your friends what's right from wrong.
How dare they vote orange man.
 

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How much Saudi's money is already in the club? I don't like this "levels of evil". They as sponsors are good but as owners they are not? Yes, yes it is not the same but nevertheless their money is here.

I am not saying that i want them in club. Tbh, i don't know what to think about it. If something starts to happen then i will know.
How dare you call on the blatant hypocrisy displayed on this thread?
Next time you're going to accuse those poster of buying Chinese manufactured products.
 

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Each sibling owns 15-17% Joel and Avram are the two idiots involved in running the club and have overseen this mess. Only way one of them could gain significant control would be to load more debt on the club.

When they do decide to sell (probably not for a long time) I assume they will all sell together, they are too greedy to go yet and there is no viable buyer at this time anyway.
Interesting. That’s Probably why we usually see one of those two. I dunno what’s better. An Inbred family(excuse my language)who has been allowed to put a whole club in debt to leech of our years of success. Or the Saudi’s.I think I actually prefer the Saudi’s

Can’t believe we are run by such a deluded man that has denied his baldness to such an extent that he somehow managed to walk around with a pony tail:confused:
 

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Interesting. That’s Probably why we usually see one of those two. I dunno what’s better. An Inbred family(excuse my language)who has been allowed to put a whole club in debt to leech of our years of success. Or the Saudi’s.I think I actually prefer the Saudi’s

Can’t believe we are run by such a deluded man that has denied his baldness to such an extent that he somehow managed to walk around with a pony tail:confused:
Maybe one of the other siblings is hiding in the shadows waiting to take over and bring us back to glory. Very Star Wars esque!
 

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Murder of journalists
Execution of protesters
Hacking of phones.......

It all seems so far away from home but I wonder what Eleven-Eighteen would think if it was one of his/her children who was imprisoned while visiting Saudi for writing an article on human rights in Saudi or something?

I keep reading people trying to justify it as the Saudi regime are trying to improve and buying man utd would put them in the spotlight and help encourage them and be good for their people........ behave and get real........ just like the Berlin Olympics turned Hitler into Mother Teresa in 1936.

I don't like the Glazers and I would like them to be replaced but frankly replacing a family of parasitic leeches with a murderous thuggish de facto ruler who denies his own people of human rights, imprisons his own people for criticising authorities or advocating political and rights reforms, systematically discriminates against women and religious minorities, curtails academic research deemed sensitive, bans political parties, censors local media and executes people who were involved in anti-government protests when they were under 18 years old, hacks peoples phone accounts in an attempt to influence news coverage of the kingdom.

If this purchase happens then Man Utd Utd whose roots stem from good, hard working class people of Salford will become a propaganda vehicle for a murderous tyrant.

#GlazersOut #SaudisNotUntilHellFreezesOver
Well said.
 

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How dare you call on the blatant hypocrisy displayed on this thread?
Next time you're going to accuse those poster of buying Chinese manufactured products.
Not to mention that half of fans here have United shirt or sneakers made by some 10y old kid who works for 1€ per day. But hey it is minor issue just like Saudis money being already in club and how we are trying to push our brand in SA which will bring us more money. But hey it is only 10-20 mil worth. It is nothing. What a hypocricy...
 

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There seemed to be a link between Saudi Prince and Newcastle today earlier on the news. More hype and rubbish I suspect, however like Leeds they represent a big club with a solid fan base and the opportunity to build something big akin to City. More attractive proposition than United for them for the money involved.
 

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I am perplexed by the moral outrage here. Regimes murder people, that’s just in their nature. Does anyone on this thread believe the British and American regimes have not murdered and are not murdering MANY more people and are not hacking MANY more phones than this Saudi regime?

Here, in India, we had the Jallianwala Bagh massacre where the British killed nearly 1500 unarmed people a hundred years ago. Just recently, the Americans “droned” a high official of another Government. These murders are happening every day and yet the people on this forum seem to prefer sticking with the Glazers, a representative of the American regime’s soft power.

It would be interesting to survey the race of those who support a Saudi takeover vs those who are against it on this forum, it might be instructive.

#GlazersOut #SaudisIn
Sorry, but what a stupid and ignorant argument.
And we Swedes terrorized all of Europe multiple times in history. Germany almost destroyed the world just eighty years ago. Would I still accept a Swedish or German owner today? Or a another US or UK one? Hell yeah. I would actually still have a problem of any of those states would try to buy United but that will not ever happen so it does not need to discussed
Would I accept one of the Viking tribes, colonial Britain a couple of hundred years ago, the Americans that slaughtered almost all of the Indian tribes or India 100 years ago, the Nazis or China or the Saudis today? Hell no.
If you dont see the difference I pity you. I really do.
 

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There seemed to be a link between Saudi Prince and Newcastle today earlier on the news. More hype and rubbish I suspect, however like Leeds they represent a big club with a solid fan base and the opportunity to build something big akin to City. More attractive proposition than United for them for the money involved.
This is big news in the local papers here in Newcastle. There are company structures already set up to accomodate the deal. Lots of evidence in local papers to support these claims. For a 300m investment the project would be so much easier for the Saudis than a 3000m hit at United.
 

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Morality issues aside, what makes you think the Saudis will be competent investors?
Because they wouldn't be investing to make money at the club, they'd be investing to make SA look good. They literally wouldn't tolerate anything less than being near the top of nigh on every metric.
 

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Side question. I'm quite proud that, however much we hate the Glazers, I have never once seen anti-semitic abuse aimed towards them on this forum.

Is this because United fans aren't backward stupid bigoted fecks, or just because people are scared of bans? I really hope it's the former.
 

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Because they wouldn't be investing to make money at the club, they'd be investing to make SA look good. They literally wouldn't tolerate anything less than being near the top of nigh on every metric.
Nah... they are desperately worried about loss of oil revenues if global electrification accelerates. They want to bring games to the country, get sports tourism and stuff like that going on.

Saudis saw Dubai managed to turn itself into a tourism hub almost, and are trying to do the same. Idiots didn’t figure out you can only do that with a global airline creating stopover opportunities at the beginning.
 

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Side question. I'm quite proud that, however much we hate the Glazers, I have never once seen anti-semitic abuse aimed towards them on this forum.

Is this because United fans aren't backward stupid bigoted fecks, or just because people are scared of bans? I really hope it's the former.
They are more easily stereotyped for being greedy American capitalists for the leveraged takeover and then drawing money out of the club in bonuses and pay that it's not even worth going into religion and all that bullshit.
 

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I am perplexed by the moral outrage here. Regimes murder people, that’s just in their nature. Does anyone on this thread believe the British and American regimes have not murdered and are not murdering MANY more people and are not hacking MANY more phones than this Saudi regime?

Here, in India, we had the Jallianwala Bagh massacre where the British killed nearly 1500 unarmed people a hundred years ago. Just recently, the Americans “droned” a high official of another Government. These murders are happening every day and yet the people on this forum seem to prefer sticking with the Glazers, a representative of the American regime’s soft power.

It would be interesting to survey the race of those who support a Saudi takeover vs those who are against it on this forum, it might be instructive.

#GlazersOut #SaudisIn
I agree with @Johan07, what a stupid and ignorant argument. I could write a long reply but I don’t need to I’ll just quote @Coops73 who provided this brilliant retort last time this argument was flying round.....

Yeah and what about those Spanish feckers as well, nearly wiping out the entire Mayan civilisation, you won’t catch me going to Spain for me hols because of it and don’t even get me started on the bloody vikings, going berserk in York and wot not, I’ll never forgive ‘em, the fact that Ole is in charge of my football club makes my blood boil grrrrrr!
#GlazersOut
#SaudisNotUntilHellFreezesOver
 

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It would be interesting to survey the race of those who support a Saudi takeover vs those who are against it on this forum, it might be instructive.
The difference is that unlike the Americans or the British, the Saudis right now, in the present, have their own citizens publicly beheaded and even crucified for criticizing the regime. If you want to shout racist for being against that, you deserve to be ignored.
 

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Side question. I'm quite proud that, however much we hate the Glazers, I have never once seen anti-semitic abuse aimed towards them on this forum.

Is this because United fans aren't backward stupid bigoted fecks, or just because people are scared of bans? I really hope it's the former.
Does it matter what their religious beliefs are ?

They are killing the club and I dislike them for that reason alone.
I couldn't care less if they worship a donkey in the local field and neither should anyone else.
 

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Nah... they are desperately worried about loss of oil revenues if global electrification accelerates. They want to bring games to the country, get sports tourism and stuff like that going on.

Saudis saw Dubai managed to turn itself into a tourism hub almost, and are trying to do the same. Idiots didn’t figure out you can only do that with a global airline creating stopover opportunities at the beginning.
And to do all that they need a brand that is doing well to help with the same sportswashing that PSG and City have done. They can't do that if they tie their ship to a club and let it sink. If they are indeed buying Newcastle then be prepared for huge changes there in the next 3 years.
 

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And to do all that they need a brand that is doing well to help with the same sportswashing that PSG and City have done. They can't do that if they tie their ship to a club and let it sink. If they are indeed buying Newcastle then be prepared for huge changes there in the next 3 years.
Or just buy the best brand there is in sport and watch bring tourists and adult Disney land to their nation. If their objective is a vehicle to market their country as a destination then United is the way to go, just imagine a preseason tournament that has City, Liverpool, Barca/Madrid and United with the added intrigue of United being owned by their Prince. The possibilities are endless.
 

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Side question. I'm quite proud that, however much we hate the Glazers, I have never once seen anti-semitic abuse aimed towards them on this forum.

Is this because United fans aren't backward stupid bigoted fecks, or just because people are scared of bans? I really hope it's the former.
Maybe anti-Semitism isn't as prevalent as it's made out in the press?

Far as I know there's no reason to tie the Glazers to Israel hence no abuse perhaps? Being brown or poor nowadays is a much bigger offence to the lowest common denominator in most countries than being Jewish it seems to me.
 

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Side question. I'm quite proud that, however much we hate the Glazers, I have never once seen anti-semitic abuse aimed towards them on this forum.

Is this because United fans aren't backward stupid bigoted fecks, or just because people are scared of bans? I really hope it's the former.
Personally, it has never entered my head until you mentioned it. Was it really a reason to bring it up? For me, no.
 

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yes

you say all that - but if they were to buy and break transfer records, get united back on the rise etc all will be forgotten...unfortunately footy clubs are now businesses....and cash cows
I honestly think i'd stop supporting united if the saudis bought them.
 

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Having lived in Newcastle for 30 years I can tell you now that the locals will have no real issues with this takeover on morality grounds. The Mags would have been Citeh if Ashley was not such a cock 10 years back. If it goes through then there will be a new powerhouse on the block with a real and large fan base unlike Citeh.

The Saudi's were an option to get rid of the Adams family but alas it looks like years of more dividends to the parasites, whilst we struggle.
 

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I am perplexed by the moral outrage here. Regimes murder people, that’s just in their nature. Does anyone on this thread believe the British and American regimes have not murdered and are not murdering MANY more people and are not hacking MANY more phones than this Saudi regime?

Here, in India, we had the Jallianwala Bagh massacre where the British killed nearly 1500 unarmed people a hundred years ago. Just recently, the Americans “droned” a high official of another Government. These murders are happening every day and yet the people on this forum seem to prefer sticking with the Glazers, a representative of the American regime’s soft power.

It would be interesting to survey the race of those who support a Saudi takeover vs those who are against it on this forum, it might be instructive.

#GlazersOut #SaudisIn
sums up what i think. Everyone thinks their own government has some moral high ground borne out of ignorance. All governments are dirty, some are better at hiding it as far as im concerned
 

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If this purchase happens then Man Utd Utd whose roots stem from good, hard working class people of Salford will become a propaganda vehicle for a murderous tyrant.

#GlazersOut #SaudisNotUntilHellFreezesOver
Aye hear hear
 

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I am perplexed by the moral outrage here. Regimes murder people, that’s just in their nature. Does anyone on this thread believe the British and American regimes have not murdered and are not murdering MANY more people and are not hacking MANY more phones than this Saudi regime?

Here, in India, we had the Jallianwala Bagh massacre where the British killed nearly 1500 unarmed people a hundred years ago. Just recently, the Americans “droned” a high official of another Government. These murders are happening every day and yet the people on this forum seem to prefer sticking with the Glazers, a representative of the American regime’s soft power.

It would be interesting to survey the race of those who support a Saudi takeover vs those who are against it on this forum, it might be instructive.

#GlazersOut #SaudisIn
The race thing might be instructive in a way you might not expect.

Your problem here which some others keep doing is conflating private business people of today with murderous governments and regimes past and present. United fans wouldn't like a US murderous government of today buying the club. What you also do is try to go back hundred years to find bad European regimes as if this anything to do with today or private people.. The British Empire is not looking to buy United.

If a Swedish Viking regime existed today and killed people and stoned women in a district in Sweden and then wanted to buy United to sportwash their crimes, they would not be welcome, no race comes in to it.

There's no problem with a Swedish, Saudi or American business person of whatever race buying United.

What is your problem and can you question yourself?
 

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I am perplexed by the moral outrage here. Regimes murder people, that’s just in their nature. Does anyone on this thread believe the British and American regimes have not murdered and are not murdering MANY more people and are not hacking MANY more phones than this Saudi regime?

Here, in India, we had the Jallianwala Bagh massacre where the British killed nearly 1500 unarmed people a hundred years ago. Just recently, the Americans “droned” a high official of another Government. These murders are happening every day and yet the people on this forum seem to prefer sticking with the Glazers, a representative of the American regime’s soft power.

It would be interesting to survey the race of those who support a Saudi takeover vs those who are against it on this forum, it might be instructive.

#GlazersOut #SaudisIn
Well said!

Those selective moral high ground saints on this forum will disagree with their weird reasoning.
 

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sums up what i think. Everyone thinks their own government has some moral high ground borne out of ignorance. All governments are dirty, some are better at hiding it as far as im concerned
Sure they're all dirty, but few are Saudi levels of dirty. That's the point people are making here.

We live in a dirty world but it has its shades of black white and grey.

It's a thanks but no thanks from me anyway, in case MBS & fam were wondering.