Odion Ighalo: Manchester United player on loan until the end of the season

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InspiRED said:
It's not really that for me, doesn't need to be a ballon d'or candidate, more the fact that was pointed out that wasn't a good idea at the beginning of the season by thousands of fans precisely for the reasons of exactly what has now happened.

People say well £75m Lukaku wasn't going to sit on the bench. Well were we that much worse with him up front last year than we are now? No we weren't. Lukaku was scoring goals for us this time last year. It's great Rashford has come on leaps and bounds and now looks like a world beater, but fact remains Lukaku is 20 goals a season every season and just got totally frozen out. So given the situation we're now in, maybe wasn't a good idea to make him feel like a fat bench warmer. Or at the very least to then not replace him when he left.
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I said that this summer and got pelters for it. Forget 20 goals, I said in the summer, "who's going to contribute the 12 goals Lukaku got last season"? Well here and we are surprise surprise, no cnut has contributed those 12 goals. But that didn't fit the narrative did it? It didn't fit the transparent, pathetic spin the club fed to the media that essentially blamed all of our woes on foreign players "that didnt get the club" and didn't have "United DNA."

There are so many mindless sheep on this forum it's depressing. They refuse to employ critical thinking about anything related to United out of fear of being labelled not a real fan. Topreds, the lot of 'em. They deserve the shit they're being force fed this season.
 

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Anyone tracking Ighalo’s flight? Will he be at Old Trafford tonight?
 

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Alabaster Codify7 said:
I said that this summer and got pelters for it. Forget 20 goals, I said in the summer, "who's going to contribute the 12 goals Lukaku got last season"? Well here and we are surprise surprise, no cnut has contributed those 12 goals. But that didn't fit the narrative did it? It didn't fit the transparent, pathetic spin the club fed to the media that essentially blamed all of our woes on foreign players "that didnt get the club" and didn't have "United DNA."

There are so many mindless sheep on this forum it's depressing. They refuse to employ critical thinking about anything related to United out of fear of being labelled not a real fan. Topreds, the lot of 'em. They deserve the shit they're being force fed this season.
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:lol: fecking hell, rewriting history there.
 

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rooney2009 said:
I hope He does well
Can’t imagine what it would be like to play for the Team you support?
I think He is past his best days IMO but you never know, could give us a massive boost like Ibra
Saw him at the Nations cup and He wasn’t bad, holds up the ball well,makes run in the box and can finish
Good Luck Mate
1st Nigerian for Utd if you discount the Obi Mikel non transfer
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Well you can't even mention someone if they've never signed and never stepped foot in a Utd shirt
 

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Alabaster Codify7 said:
Not in the slightest. All of our problems were apparently down to Lukaku, Fellaini, Sanchez and now Pogba - overpaid foreign players who didnt 'get the club' or display enough 'United DNA'.
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Nothing to do with Lukaku, he skipped preseason training and games to force his move, somehow it's twisted into brexit issue.

Lingard got lot of shit, Shaw gets lot of shit, Jones and Smalling are laughing stocks. Nothing to do with foreign vs British players, considering ManUtd position everyone got shit. Players like Pogba got undeserved shit but players like Lukaku, Sanchez got deserved shit for playing so poor.
 

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What's the story on him turning down Barcelona in the past?

Welcome to Old Trafford, Ighalo. I'm optimistic he can do well for us in pushing for top 4.
 

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No way Ighalo could outscore Martial or Greening. I wouldn't expect him to score more than 5 or 6 goals in 2nd half of season. But he definitely can do a squad rotation for us in some cup competitions, or subs in the league.

I mean in his last season in England he only score 2 goals in 19 games. Last year in Chinese league, he only score 10 goals in 19 games. Surely you wouldn't expect him to outscore Marital or Greening, who had already scored 10-12 goals so far this season?

Let's get real, in La Liga, he avg 5 goals per season (3 season), in England Championship, he avg 20 goals per season (1 season), in Premier league, he avg 12 goals per season (1.5 season), In Chinese league, he avg 15 goals per season (3 season). That's his level and he is already 30. Surely you won't expect him to suddenly improve that massively during 6 months loan here.
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You're going to great pains to make him look bad including citing a goal per session average where you take into consideration a single season.

Fact is from 2015 to 2016 Ighalo scored at least 15 goals per season with a dip in 2017.

And how can you describe 10 in 19 as "only"?
 
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Alabaster Codify7 said:
I said that this summer and got pelters for it. Forget 20 goals, I said in the summer, "who's going to contribute the 12 goals Lukaku got last season"? Well here and we are surprise surprise, no cnut has contributed those 12 goals. But that didn't fit the narrative did it? It didn't fit the transparent, pathetic spin the club fed to the media that essentially blamed all of our woes on foreign players "that didnt get the club" and didn't have "United DNA."

There are so many mindless sheep on this forum it's depressing. They refuse to employ critical thinking about anything related to United out of fear of being labelled not a real fan. Topreds, the lot of 'em. They deserve the shit they're being force fed this season.
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Rashford has 4 more league goals as it stands than he got all last season, Grewnwood has 4, James has 3 so that's 11 and the season isn't finished.

Let's not get too carried away just because we've brought someone in as cover that's not everyones cuppa tea.
 

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Honestly give up at some comments on here. We got this guy due to Rashfords injury. He is short term cover striker as we have sod all cover, its a bloody good sensible move. Fellani was midfield not striker and all he got on red cafe was abuse now you want to keep him to play striker.. Cant please everyone.
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Yeah we got the guy because rashford got injured with only 1 other senior striker available going into the season, talk about absolute incompetence, it is something the manager/club should have easily foreseen, this stupid cultural rebuild is taking this club steps backwards not forwards.

Yes fellani got grief from fans but like always with fans post fergie, he along with other players were unfairly used as scapegoats for the crappy tactics used by past it managers like van Gaal and Mourinho. Fellaini definitely had his uses and we could have definitely had done with him in the second half of last season and whilst he may not have been an out and out striker he could have definitely been used in such a position with his strengths, I'm pretty sure he did at times for everton with some moderate success.
 

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Yeah we got the guy because rashford got injured with only 1 other senior striker available going into the season, talk about absolute incompetence, it is something the manager/club should have easily foreseen, this stupid cultural rebuild is taking this club steps backwards not forwards.

Yes fellani got grief from fans but like always with fans post fergie, he along with other players were unfairly used as scapegoats for the crappy tactics used by past it managers like van Gaal and Mourinho. Fellaini definitely had his uses and we could have definitely had done with him in the second half of last season and whilst he may not have been an out and out striker he could have definitely been used in such a position with his strengths, I'm pretty sure he did at times for everton with some moderate success.
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It's no secret that Manchester United is poorly run. It's been reported that Ole wanted replacements but Ed failed to deliver.

Regarding Fellaini, I just can't imagine a team who wins trophies consistently have Fellaini in their squad. He was good at winning headers, and that's it, and I think we did the correct decision to off-load him. Not to be disrespectful to Fellaini, but he isn't good enough to be even a squad option for a team that aims to be the very best.

I'm eager to see how this Ighalo loan works out. Personally I'm not very optimistic, but the deal makes sense. We have a very thin squad and we need backup in the attacking area, and since it's January it's incredibly difficult to get your top targets for a reasonable price. So, Ighalo will do. It's not out of the ordindary for a top team to do deals like this, United have done it before under Ferguson and Klopp has done so in Liverpool.
 

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Mr Smith said:
Bunch of moaners who are among the most ill-informed pundits in the media. Nothing to see here.
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I actually don't mind Burley that much, but Marcotti is usually the only one you can rely on to talk sense. The worst is that Venezuelan guy (Alejandro....) Absolute clown.
 

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Alabaster Codify7 said:
Not in the slightest. All of our problems were apparently down to Lukaku, Fellaini, Sanchez and now Pogba - overpaid foreign players who didnt 'get the club' or display enough 'United DNA'.
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Since when has the club blamed Pogba for anything? If anything, they seem overly reluctant to sell him, despite his apparent desire to leave.
 

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Although pace is obviously a great ability for a striker, that’s not what we’re in need of imo.
What we need is a striker who is good in positioning himself in the box and and finish off all them crosses. And after reading/watching a bit of Ighalo it seems like that’s exactly the kind of striker he is.
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He isn't agile either and that's understating it. He's presently stuck in quicksand unathletic. Not much better than Maguire imo. I wouldn't have thought he had the physical ability to cope in the PL anymore. He's depth that's all. Keep expectations humble. Bruno is where the intrigue is for me
 

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The Original said:
You're going to great pains to make him look bad including citing a goal per session average where you take into consideration a single season.

Fact is from 2015 to 2016 Ighalo scored at least 15 goals per season with a dip in 2017.

And how can you describe 10 in 19 as "only"?
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It’s Chinese league. Wouldn’t say it’s impressive stats.
 

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Good signing, too good to be playing in China and definitely mid-table premiership level striker. Fortunately for him, Chinese clubs will pay that level of striker superstar wages.
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Great move for him to get out of China in these uncertain times. Did we quarantine him ;)
 

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stygg said:
Anyone tracking Ighalo’s flight? Will he be at Old Trafford tonight?
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I expect nobody knows exactly which flights, but some options are 18 to 26 hours with 1 to 3 changes

So if the transfer was announced late evening local time here, can we assume he was still on the ground then?

He could have taken off about 2300 in Shanghai (1500 here), change in Abu Dhabi, and been here by 1400, but I think that's pretty unlikely, as they could have announced the deal mid afternoon yesterday

Couple of other options arrive 1830 or towards midnight, but more likely no rush, I'd guess Monday or Tuesday, via Moscow or Dubai

And it depends on whether all these flights are operating ...
 
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https://www.skysports.com/football/...er-united-transfer-planning-says-gary-neville

"They just needed a body in that area," he said ahead of Manchester United's meeting with Wolves, live on Sky Sports Premier League HD. "Rashford's going to be out for another couple of months.

"I can't let the club off the hook though, unfortunately. Romelu Lukaku told us a couple of weeks ago that he had said he was going to leave last February or March.

"That's nine months to be able to manoeuvre and get into a position to sign a striker for the club for the long-term. And yet they have ended up desperately doing one on Deadline Day.

"The boy may do very well. He might come in and settle in, he might score goals and do a job for the club.

"But the fact that the club were in that position, knowing that Sanchez and Lukaku were leaving for many, many months, tells us that Manchester United, at this moment in time, are struggling to navigate through the transfer market smartly."
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Can't argue with Neville here tbh
 

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It's not irrelevant to you trying to make out we've bought ighalo and having another moan about the club.
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It's irrelevant to the lack of planning. I see you're still trying to delude yourself to the 'planning' and 'right mentality' spiel and, for my liking, be my guest. Don't mistake moaning for not deluding yourself though.
 

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Kostur said:
It's irrelevant to the lack of planning. I see you're still trying to delude yourself to the 'planning' and 'right mentality' spiel and, for my liking, be my guest. Don't mistake moaning for not deluding yourself though.
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What's the planning and right mentality spiel? And what does it have to do with you pretending we have bought ighalo rather than loaned him for 6 months?
 

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What's the planning and right mentality spiel? And what does it have to do with you pretending we have bought ighalo rather than loaned him for 6 months?
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Nope, I've never done that, you're jumping at conclusions. Did you actually read the post to which I've responded in the first place? If not, track back, you'll see where I'm coming from.
 

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Nope, I've never done that, you're jumping at conclusions. Did you actually read the post to which I've responded in the first place? If not, track back, you'll see where I'm coming from.
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I've lost interest in going back now. I'm being anal about it as I'm sick of people fabricating things to make it seems worse to suit their agenda. Things are difficult enough as it is without having to read our own 'fans' inflating fees and flat out lying to make a point probably most people would agree with anyway if they simply articulated it truthfully.
 

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I've lost interest in going back now. I'm being anal about it as I'm sick of people fabricating things to make it seems worse to suit their agenda. Things are difficult enough as it is without having to read our own 'fans' inflating fees and flat out lying to make a point probably most people would agree with anyway if they simply articulated it truthfully.
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Well then perhaps stop commenting on things you didn't bother to read or failed to understand so you won't get 'anal about it'.
 

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I liked Ighalo at Watford and felt he left for China too soon.

He's going to be a decent rotation player and impact sub to go more direct. Decent goalscoring record too for club and country.

However, the state of our club, scouting department and negotiators are awful. For us to sign a guy from China during a pandemic outbreak sums it up at the moment (not serious).

We probably pay thousands of salaries worldwide. To sign Ighalo..... That's quite alarming. Is there no young upcoming star that we could've been well positioned for? A long term centre forward target?
 

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I liked Ighalo at Watford and felt he left for China too soon.

He's going to be a decent rotation player and impact sub to go more direct. Decent goalscoring record too for club and country.

However, the state of our club, scouting department and negotiators are awful. For us to sign a guy from China during a pandemic outbreak sums it up at the moment (not serious).

We probably pay thousands of salaries worldwide. To sign Ighalo..... That's quite alarming. Is there no young upcoming star that we could've been well positioned for? A long term centre forward target?
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Went for the money didnt he? Who can blame him. He has to take care of his family and they probably quadrupled his wages in China.

I think its a good last minute signing to cover for what was an unexpected injury to our top goalscorer. There really is no planning for that.

We did well to get an established international who has played in the premiership and actually scored 15 goals in a season (for watford!!!). So the bedding in period might be quite quick considering his experience playing in English football.

Lets also not forget that he turned down Barcelona last year. There was real interest in taking him to Spain but he didn't want to be a "short-term" player. However, with the chinese league suspended for the forseeable future, he clearly has decided to make a short term move now and play for his boyhood dream club.

It fits well and there is very little downside to this loan.

I for one hope we sign him on a longterm deal if he proves himself a worthy squad player. We need someone like him in the team to give us more physicality and holdup play.
 
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